rhys

I would consider the creationsts akin to those that belive what they have been told by the autorities, as, creationists tend to beleive what they have been told by the authorities. A similarity there, no? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

We'll considering iraq was invaded in a heartbeat, based on assumtion, that turned out to be well, false. i will have to say, No What i was trying to say, is that you don't mind spending billions or trillions of dollars to 'get even' with the evil doers but do mind spending a couple of million obtaining the truth! as soon as it would seem legitemate, You can be sure that attack was planned well in advance. the funny thing is the whole world (includng iraq)knew it was going to happen before they started, good game guys, good game! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

From your link; So the popular mechanics report is based on NIST's hypothesis and clearly mentioned asymmetrical damage yet does not explain the completely symmetrical collapse. popular mechanics did not invesigate the collapses themselves, they used (false, assumed)data from the NIST report, the report that is itself in question. Why do you think there are teams of scientists, scholars, firefighters, engineers, architechts and other intellectuals fighting for another investigation? Because the NIST report was so squeaky clean and thourough? come on! You act like I am the only one that does not believe the report! There are hundreds of thousands of people world wide that openly refute the official story, if you took away the ridicule from individuals like you lot in here (mainstream believers), then that figure would jump to many millions. Many people I have talked to do not believe the official story, but do not wish to discuss it, mainly due to this' tin foil hat' attitude from sheepish fools, that are simply jumping on a bandwagon. It is a very touchy subject that opens wounds, and questions the authority we are subject to. We don't want to know about the shit heap our civilisation produces, we just wan't to go on living our cushy lives at the expense of the sad truth that is so evident to us all every day! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Does the NTSB's investigations have such a strong opposition of thought from the scientific community? I don't think so. Are the results from the NTSB's investigations of utmost importance for world security and currently effecting the livlihoods of millions of lives world wide? How much has the war in Iraq cost? in comparison to a non biased investigation? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Explain how thier investigation is not a hypothesis? It is simply that, a very expensive and not very thourough one! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

A noun used in debate is not the same as using the noun as debate. There is a distinct difference. Bill has never blown any 911 theory away, all scientists know that a peer reviewed journal is needed to complete a hypothesis, Dr. Steven Jones ‘has’ produced a peer reviewed journal, NIST ‘has not’. In fact NIST bases their entire calculations of the collapses of all 3 WTC buildings on simultaneous, symmetrical (freefall speed) collapse of the initial floors that gave way, a rather unlikely hypothesis considering random fires were supposedly to blame. They took over 5 years to come up with thier 1st final report, then took a heart beat to ammend it once the 'tin foil hatters' pointed out the obvious flaws. You don’t need to be a physicist to work it out. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

See, more intellegent, neo con type information and debate. Such substance and research, no wonder you guys rule the roost! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

There goes that tin foil hat thing again, I had never heard of that until you neo con lot in here started going on about it. Using that line instead of actually using your own brain to refute what people say is a cop out for sheep. Debunked you say? With false physics and false evidence. Your debunkings have been debunked also numerous times, round in circles we go! So you are the type to poke somone in the shoulder and run away? Turn up to a debate and say "I won" without actually having a discussion? haha, And you wonder why your opinion isn't worth anything? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Now see, if you put all theories in one basket, you get a pile of rotten eggs. bad eggs taint the good eggs. I don't see any of the reputable organisations that do not jump to conclusions but refute scientifically and professionally what happend on 9/11 included in your link. Like these guys; http://www.ae911truth.org/ http://911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646 http://stj911.org/ http://911scholars.org/ http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/ http://www.v911t.org/ and the list goes on... See, I could care less what you think, but as soon as you compare Steven Jones and all these other scholars and professionals that question the supposedly official story to tin hatters and satan worshippers, just like you have in your link... ...Then you become the foolish conspirer. If there is so much doubt about the official report, so much coincidence, so many reputable people questioning it. Why not look into it? It is damn simple, too much evidence is emmited, too many important witnesses have mysteriously died... Yet you don't mind paying billions or trillions to fight a pointles war that is also founded on such lies, by the same old people in question.... Meanwhile the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. If you are so sure the the official story is correct, Show me evidence that it is peer reviewed! because it is not, why? Because it is a crock of shit, simple. You cannot refute physics. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I guess that is what i meant also, you know when your canopy starts shaking and you are getting bumped around and you sphincter starts puckering, that s when I might put a little brake on for a bit. If I have height I will start a slow front riser turn after that to get away from the ugly pocket of air. The only time I have had a decent collapse was on a spectre 150 going down wind and the thing just folded in half. that was int he mountains though and most definately the last load for the day. What is your method during turbulance, if you are actually in the air at the time? Definately a subjectictive matter. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

well done bro, you are all a bunch of legends! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Made with skydivers in mind, these new harnesses are comfy and a good price. Check em out, they make base containers too! http://www.glhsystems.biz/2701.html "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Does anyone have a list of those people that were on the official jump? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

paragliders and parachutes are trimmed very differently. Correct me if I am wrong?.. Speed bars have a limited range and if you go any further than they will allow, the result will likely be a frontal collapse. This is the trade off you get for the extra glide ratio you achieve on a paraglder? I was contemplating getting a speed flying wing made by a paragliding company recently but through research, found out that this is not what I want for one major reason. I like to use front riser turns to keep proximity with the ground when the gloung bluffs out, I will not fly(full time) a speed flying wing made by a paragliding company. for tis reason I'll sick with a GLX, JVX or some other parachute. I do agree however that using a 'little' toggle pressure to keep the canopy pressurised is a good idea in turbulance, If you are up high front riser turns are also good. I see alot of buffeting when I see people using double fronts, I can't imagine that would help in turbulance? This subject has many different points of view, High wing loading v's low wing loading, flying straight apposed to initiating a turn... Don't we all love turbulance! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Today I had the last of the almagam in my mouth removed, not only does it look better with composite fillings, but no more mercury in my mouth makes me feel alot better about my long term health. If you have these unsightly fillings in your mouth and you are in the position to have them removed, I suggest you do so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalgam_%28dentistry%29

Cheers for the info, i don't intend on rooting any filipinos, i'm here with my wife! the diving sounds nice although i don't have a licence to do so. i'll look into the places you mentioned, i'm keen on some good snorkling, and potentially some surfing, you know of any good beach breaks? not too keen on the reef breaks! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

But the real reason DZ owners buy Strongs is to save money right? If we had the choice I'm sure we would all choose a nice, comfortable, modern, Sigma to an old fasioned Strong system? There is nothing too wrong with Strongs when it comes to saftey as long as they are well maintained and I am sure Stuart looks after his gear. But deciding between the two when money is not an issue there would be no comparison. Would you jump an old wonderhog from the 80's or a micron? that is the real comparison. BTW, I will jump either system as long as they are well maintained, i have seen good and bad examples of both systems. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

aww, I imagined a commune of foxy looking mothers. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Well done, and congratulations. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Cool I'll be interested in your review. Pretty much, but the 'how' part is more interesting than the 'why' part. We all know humans are greedy! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

It is all just number juggling and the figures have nothing to do with recources. For every dollar banked, $1.9 can be loaned, once banked again (in a different bank) that figure will be multiplied again, by 1.9. Every dollar represents a debt, if all loans were paid at once today, there would be less than 10% of the money required in circulation. Watch Zeitgiest addendum; http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ It focuses primarily on this on going problem. it also covers a simple, yet unfortunately near impossible (due to human nature), alternative. This movie is not just an ammended version of the origional Zeitgiest movie. It is more focused on the treasury and how it works. If you mock it before watching it, you are an ass. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Hmmm, base jumping... packing on the train ride back up... sounds like shit to me! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Fuck that! the massage is good, $5 and hour! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Hi, I am currently in Manila, Philippies. My primary reason for coming here was to get my teeth fixed at a reasonable rate. I have a couple more visits to go then we have 2 weeks and over a 1000 islands to choose from. Has anyone been here before? any suggestions on what to do, or what not to do would be appreciated. thanks, Rhys "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Stabalizers created drag, so removing them improves performance by reducing drag, crossbraces do not create more drag (or very minimal amounts if they do). Not having the crossbraces does reduce packing volume, and does reduce the cost, but i cant see how it can be an improvement in performance over a fully crossbraced canopy? I was under the impression the Neos was intended to be a canopy between the crossfire and the FX/VX? there is no information on the canopy on the Icarus spain website? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix