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exactly, that description does not fit in the 'beyond reasonable doubt' category. A new in vestigation is needed and a new investigation will happen. it is getting much closer now... "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

What is the budget, of th us military, what is the central intellegence centre for the said military, and why was it hit by an aircraft. I have no clue about you beloved military, but I do know that with over 100 bases around the world and triilions of dollars invested in them, you could at least have you centre protected. How the US military opertates and how they should operate ate two separate things. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

bad timing was; *letting a aircraft hit the pentagon *invading a country for n o apparent reason *sending the public back into manhatten when the air was still poison and effectivly killing more people than when the collapses took place... many other things were bad timing, questioning the US government on september 11 IS NOT BAD TIMING! There are millions of people that are dead or suffering over this debacle, and no hypothesis has ben proven beyond reaonable doubt, so have some respect for the dead, dying and in pain. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

So a guy that actually has been in the regon (potentially served) opposes your standpoint and you want him out of the country. thats gratitude for ya. What a bunch of inconsiderate assholes! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

well said, we cannot blame the pawns for the bishop and the kings mistakes. You said you weree over there, what was you role and can you explain it a little for us please. I have met a few US soldiers that have returned and heard about many more that are opposed the occupation entirley. I would like to hear your story. I oppose the war altogether, always have, but I do realise that military is essential, it is just being abused for the welbeing of a minority with the majority of the worlds recources. The world needs to hear from guys like you, that put thier ass on the line, but will not listen to your first hand experience. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

You are quite a vein person arent you, why do you keep hijacking the threads to finger me out (don't get all offenden and usere the wrong definition of fingered, I'm not that kind of guy, much!). You make these side tangents in conversation to try to compare my thoughts the thay way yours work. You came out 'guns blazing' so to speak, criticizing me for using the english language. I simply pointed out to you and a number of others, that Cunt is in fact a bonafide and acceptable term in out language and the definition i used is included in all decent dictioaries; I'm sure there are plenty of people who are dead set certain that I will go to Hell and burn for an eternity with all the other heathens!! I am dead set that they are kidding themselves. This is a politcal forum sweetheart, we are supposed to disagree with each other. When I talk about the big 5? I talk about the mindset behind wanting to take the lives of some of the most beautiful beings on the planet, the guns I couldn't give a shit about. i'm sure the big five have been 'taken out' with means other than firearms. You have a one track mind. I don't think like you, so don't assume so. Thinking an image "is racist" and should be a 'sackable offence' does not get you off the hook. You could be a the head of the kKK and think the same way, (don't assume i'm incinuating that, it is just an extreme example). I am allowed to think racists are cunts and i can call them that if i wish. You want to take my cunts away from me, how dare you "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I'm suggesting that the report is incomplete and not to the standards that would normally be required for such a catastrophie. September 11 2009 is here tomorrow. Everyone who 'can see' is sick of hanging back and waiting. Fortunately good old Charlie Sheen has stepped up to the plate already, Richard Gage and Steven Jones are gathering thier recources and a conglomerate of other serious and qualified lobbyists are in tow. The congress is not going to know what hit them and Obama will have to comment. Then we all get to see who's side he is on once and for all. It is going to be interesting to see the turn of events over the next couple of months! Charlie Sheen's Video Message to President Obama "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Already did - just because you don't like what it says doesn't mean the investigation was bogus. These guys will beg to differ. If you didn't like the 'physics was my favorite class in high school' guys credentials, how about the 'I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. … ' guys credentials. I know you can't view 'you tube' while you are being paid by you beloved socialist system for being a post whore. buy all the interviews are typed out for your viewing, you other mates acan confirm the interviews are the real deal. You need to learn what 'Beyond reasonable doubt' means. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

No, if you 'LOVE' guns and argue that racist comments are not racist, then you are a likely contender for the KKK. I don't hate guns, I intend on purchasing one, when I settle back in NZ for hunting. Good organic meat and helping our fragile envoronment from introduced mammals are my incentive, no ego boost or power trips. The kill will take me back emotionally, but as a meat eater I have to accept what is real. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

You need to learn to read/understand better. She said she opposed socialism, You are socialist, working for the govornment. She opposes your job and she opposes all the things I stated above. My point was(that you were not bright enough to grasp, unsurprisingly), she doesn't oppose socialism at all, neither do you obviously, She just mis-understands the definition of the word, and believes the mainstream propoganda put out in the USA, like most of you sheep in here. I overheard an argument yesterday between two americans at the DZ about this very subject, the nay sayer said that NASA is a capitalist projrect because privite enterpise constructed the plant and equipment. he was corrected quite quickly, I stepped in and asked him what the difference between socialism and communism was; He couldn't answer. Once again a strong opposition to socialism by someone who doesn't know what it actually is. A sad state of affairs really. You guys(especially hooper) don't debate, you are too closed minded to do so, and your standpoints are so set in concrete, you will not listen to the truth when is is laid out in front of you. I'll leave you all to your KKK, oops NRA meeting! You obviously oppose sharing with the (entire) community, so why would you ever be receptive to my input? It is contradictory to your game plan. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

You said you oppose socialism. Like many right wing americans, you obviously do not understand what your statement means. You are essentially saying that public schools should be closed, nasa should sell up, a company should be protecting you country (Military) and everything should be owned by companies and individuals. From whom and how would these parties acquire the recources in which they would need to operate? Capitalism alone is flawed, it has to be combined with socialism (as it is and will always be), you just need to comprehend that and understand what it is you are talking about. Just to help you a bit; Socialism is not a case of the govornment owning everything, and communism is not dictatorship. Unfortunately though, that is the right wing american belief that was propped up by propoganda in the 1960's to justify the murder of many thousands of people in south east asia for the financial gain of a few capitalist assohles. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

maybe so, before you go too far, I do not oppsoe hunting, and in some cases it is needed. In Zimbabwe for instance there are too many elephants, but leopards are endagerd and NOBODY, has the right to kill one on purpose for fun. Why do you think there are not many leopards or rhinos? Conservation and stock protection are separate. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

So why do you avoid answering questions from those with oppsing opinions? debate is debate, not smug conversations with your buddies! Are these akin to your so called educated africans? The ones you continue to avoid talkng about, even though you used them as an example in your (very angry and strongly opinionated) entry into this conversation? Only if you make a point out of it, these open ended conversations are quite pointless. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Let me get this straight, apparently a plane crashes into the pentagon (potentially the most heavily monitored building in the world) an hour after one of the worlds largest skyscrapers is hit, and there is only footage of a small fast projectile and a subsequent explosion. this is the only footage releases, and there is potentially hundreds of photos/videos, but not available to the investigators. This footage will remain classified for national security reasons, why? go on kidding yourself and slotting people in a genre that fits your stance. scientists are scientists, and post whores are merely post whores. Everybody wants to believe so much that they are not wrong that they will let the truth slip by unoticed (by themselves only of course). "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Someone who sells a human being of the same race, as themselves for slavery does not necessarily make them racist, they are simply being inhumane. Having separate toilets and busses and schools for diffent coloured skin is racist. Egyptians had slave of the same race, that is not racist. Think before you speak, you are a hypocrite for using the word idiot in your transparent statement. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

You should use the actual definitions rather than your own, here let me enlighten you; So in the end you state you oppose national forests, NASA, the USA military...? You want everything to be owned by individuals or companies and strongly oppose the earths/nations recources being owned by the community as a whole. How would you feel about your street being privatised, pay a buck eack time you come home? Your logic toward racism is as flawed as your logic towards politics, selfish people deserve to be pointed out and ostracized not held up on a high horse. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

It 'is' amazing that someone that wishes not to share (opposes socialism), is racist (condones racist behavior) and is violent (enjoys firing guns designed to kill humans), can sit here and qualify themselves as a higher souce of information. well done you are amazing "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

After such a seemingly profound statemnt, would you care to share with us the reason you 'Snapped' so violently towards me when I mentioned that I had visited an old slave trading ,market in east africa? I simply mentioned that the person telling me (a tanzanian) about it was uspet with the fact that human slave trading ever took place in his country. You went on the personal attacks and talking about 'educated africans' as opposed to my friend that has a job, speaks 3 languages and is not a willing participant in the immense amount of corruption and oppression that is taking part in the regon. You want to be all 'enlightened' but you are yet to explain why you had such a strong oposition to what I had said. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Assumtion is the mother of all fuck ups, initially I blamed the GW admin, etc. etc. but I have learned that pointing the blame when there is no evidence beyond resonable doubt, is stupid. A bonafide investigation would expose all the evidence, including the 'said' thousands of photos collected at the site, all the video from the pentagon and investigating in accordance with stipulated guidelines. The NIST report does not do this, and does not explain the events beyond reasonable doubt, so therefore all you guys who think you 'know' what happend that day, really are assuming something based on false statements. It is all hearsay, until a proper investigation happens, it will happen. Then we might start to make sence of it all. What is the pentagon holding the photos and footage for? National Security? What a joke, there is no reason to hold that footage, none at all! If so enlighten me? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I have not made any personal attacks. I asssume, you are talking about the pompus git comment? and assume it was directed at hooper? He is yet to answer the question so I cannot assume he has or has not done so, i simply asked. I have met many long time english ex-pats in africa, most of them discussed the big 5. Some for photos; ! and some for hunting! He may well be a vegetarian for all I know? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Bullshit, GI jane. The desire to kill 5 very large, potentilly endangered animals says alot about a person. T'is not for food, nor self defence, it is blatant, un-necessary violence. You condone such violence yourself, but those that actually have a heart, usually find this type of behavior completely unacceptable. We all share this earth together, what gives some pompus git the right to kill and elephant, a lion, a rhino, a leopard and a Buffalo. for what? An erection?!? The logic of some people never ceases to amaze me! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

you didn't answer my questions. What is it about slave trading that I got so wrong for you to have such a strong opinion about? And did you kill the big five while you were there? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Quote Are you going senile, or have heavy metal poisoning Bill? you are getting more silly the day. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Now if there was ever a story to sell some advertising/newspapers... it would be this event today. A quick google search shows the only people that are interested ate the truthers, even though the majority of the comments on the subject come from those that follow to official story. so the interest is there, you are just 'not allowed' to have it in your media. This lack of interest from mainstream media is evidence of the censored nature of thier operations. Reuters has the story but who will have the guts to print it? They (those with all the cash) are hoping this will be water under the bridge in no time, but unfortunately for them, it will not. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Me too! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix