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Considering the the data clearly says FLT DECK DOOR and has the relevant data with it, it would answer your second queston, it is there for you to see, and it was aquired from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act. This page has all the relevant links and downloads. if you don't believe him then maybe try doing some research of your own. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

the same way they found the 'fire and damage proof' passport in manhattan and the bandana of the same qualities in the pentago i suppose. The plane made of metal is detroyed boyod recognition but the bandana is hardly scathed at all. that is majic isn't it! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Show me a photograph of the 'wreckage' at the pentagon and substanciate it with a photo of a wreckage of similar qualities that did not occur on 9/11. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

So you say bending the rules is O.K. if the investigators feel it is relevant to the situaton? I can gostraight through a red light if there is no cars coming and it is the middle of the night? The spend 10's of millions of dollars on an investigtion of a fire that essentially killed around 3000 people and they 'refuse' to look for any type of explosives as pointed out by the guideline? even when evidence of such properties is presented to them in a peer reviewed scientific journal? you find that reasonable? You said, 'energy has nothing to do with it' be it potential energy, kinteic enrgy or whatever energy. s far as 9/11 is concerned, energy has everything to do with it, so can you clarify to us whatyou meant by the statement "energy has nothing to do with it", you nevdr specified what type of energy you were referring to in the first place, so don't change your statement please. You talk tome and other as if we are stupid, yet you throw ctatements such as that around and blow them off as if they were correct. maybe it was a typo or you forgot to mention something bu,t energy has everything to do with it and your statment is idiotic. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I don't know, you know why? there is not enough evidence to believe any of the, stories. there was never a criminal investgation so I can't make a reasonable decision that I am certain of. As far as the pentsagon is concerned, there is no vald hypothesis. The only people that know for sure, are the people tht have seen the images (the many images) that are being with held from the public by the US government. Only when they come clean with all the evidence they hold, can ANYONE be sure of what happened there that day. You may believe in evaporating aircraft, i do not. Now I have a question, what is to be gained by withholding the security footage? If in fact, if the official story is correct, how would showing images to confirm it to be true, be a threat to nationall security? Why the secrecy. The strong opposition to the Us government in regards to this would be crushed with the images of a plane crashing into the building, until they come clean, we have to assume thay are hiding something. Nothing, is gained form the secrecy. expept in the case of a cover up. You should demand transparency, so you can rest assured that you are in fact correct. Until then you are simply taking thier word. But the people they spoke to said they saw the aircrafty approach from the north, and the story you believe, says it approached from the south? how can you be correct as well as them? I don't know who to believe, but until I seel an image of a commercial jet there, I will not believe what we have been told, There is no evidence in the damage to suggest a commercial jet of those proportions crashed there, period! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

buddists have not been sodomising boys in a widespread fasion, and been getting away with it for decades. if your god is so divine, how is it that this has gone on for so long among the ranks of your church, if your pope is what he claimes to be, he is also accountable as he must also have known the whole time, No? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Ask yourself, i'm not her to answer your questions. So you are calling all of the eye witnesses that were questoned and independently said they saw the aircraft coming from the north (not the south) including at least two police officers, liers? They were there and you were not, yet they are full of shit and you are somehow more correct than them? for fucks sake. I am not making any assumtions, I just want to look at all facets and try to work out what is a reasonable answer to the many bizarre anomolies that have been stated as fact in the official stroy when common sence would suggest otherwise, not just at the pentagon, or new york or any of the plane crashes, but all of them, and the following reports. none of them really make sence, and none of them have had criminal investigations done that the public can view and determine for themselves if what they are being told is the truth. In your country the government may get away with criminal activity, but in mine, they still get speeding fines and get questioned for having luxuries that they should not have. If you havn't got the bollocks to question authority, and simply believe anything you are told, then there is no wonder they get away with being so blatanty corrupt. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Nope, anything with weight and mass has potential energy, Kinetic energy is when when something is moving? You simply stated this has nothing to do with energy. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

not much, why? You understand it is a guide explaing the process of investigtion a fire or explosion, so why would you not think it would be reasonable for one to expect the NIST to follow those strict guidelines when they created thier report? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Quite obviously a Noob to the subject so i'll go lightly on ya. oficially it was office fires that caused the collapse of all three buldings, It was not therandom damaga caused by the aircraft as that would have caused a completely asymmetrical collapse. it was office equipment fires, not jet fuel fires that werw reported to have caused the catastophic damage. Inititll what you are saying was the official strory but it was pointed out by those that oppsoe tha official story, they ammended the cause from jet fuel and deisel to office equiment fires! Hahahahahaha The only 3 steel framend buildings in history, all on the same day, 2 planes 3 buildings, virtually freefall speed into thier own footprint, through the path of gretaest resistance. But energy has nothing to do with it, Just ask Billvon! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

so you are aware of it, good. Now do you beleive the NIST, that clearly stated that they did not look for explosives, followed the guidelines that the are legally obliged to follow? In other worrds, do you think it is O.K. that an investigation of such a proportion failed to complete the investigation within the guidelines they are bound to follow as an investigation team? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I'll ask you the same question Bill, i doubt you would know, as you have admitted to not studying these matters and simply accept the official conspiracy hypothesis at face value. so here is the question; What do you know of the National Fire Protection Association NFPA 921 Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations? Are you aware of this publication and what do you make of it? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I am and you keep evading the question, anyone reading your rely and mine will see tht you are doing so. I have one question for you at this stage and it does not relate to conspiracy and it is has nothing to do with a truther website, it is a standard that must be met when investigating fire or explosion and you don't seem to be aware of it/refuse to acknowledge it. So once again, my one question; What do you know of the National Fire Protection Association NFPA 921 Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations? Are you aware of this publication and what do you make of it? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

You have not addressed it at all you have worked your way around it, here it is again; What do you know of the National Fire Protection Association NFPA 921 Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations? Are you aware of this publication and what do you make of it? Are you calling the National Fire Protection Association idiots? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

The Christain message is that the divine god is aware of everything, and we are all answerable to god upon our deaths. How then does it make sense that god allowed these people to continue these dispicable actions? how is it reasonable to believe that a non believing sinner such as myself is allowed to have a nice home, a beautiful wife, a dream job and a great income while some devout christians were born into and will remain in poverty, opression and pain for the entire lives. how is it possible that assholes that wish to overpower the masses are allowed to do so, are rewarded with lavish lifestyles and live as the please. the christian message is faulty, wrong and in many cases criminal. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Considering the the black box data has recently shown that the flight deck door was never opened during flight, and i speaking of the official black box data obtained from the from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act. how does that seem so rediculous? I have already linked this inforamtion today and once againyou ignored it, how can you expect anyone to take you seriuosly when you refuse to acknowledge vital infromation? Who do you work for and what is your position? It seems your credibilty as a engineering professional is questinable at the least! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

But if you have had trillions of dollars spent on defending the back of your head, and claim to have the most powerful head in the world and you head is the intellegence centre for not only your country but countless military bases around the world and somebody still managed to flick you in the ear. not only would that show tht you are incompetent, but it would also show that you wasted A_SHITLOAD_OF TAX_PAYERS_MONEY, and you should be held accountabe. Now back to my question the you keep evading; You have still not confirmd to us wheter or not you know of the National Fire Protection Association NFPA 921 Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations? Are you aware of this and what do you make of it? If you understood this imortant document and what it means to the NIST report, you yourself would question the report. It seems you are willfully ignorant, is it your ego that makes you refrain from commenting on it? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

ask yourself? http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm As the 20th century draws to a close, the United States stands as the world's preeminent power. Having led the West to victory in the Cold War, America faces an opportunity and a challenge: Does the United States have the vision to build upon the achievements of past decades? Does the United States have the resolve to shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests? We are in danger of squandering the opportunity and failing the challenge. We are living off the capital -- both the military investments and the foreign policy achievements -- built up by past administrations. Cuts in foreign affairs and defense spending, inattention to the tools of statecraft, and inconstant leadership are making it increasingly difficult to sustain American influence around the world. And the promise of short-term commercial benefits threatens to override strategic considerations. As a consequence, we are jeopardizing the nation's ability to meet present threats and to deal with potentially greater challenges that lie ahead. We seem to have forgotten the essential elements of the Reagan Administration's success: a military that is strong and ready to meet both present and future challenges; a foreign policy that boldly and purposefully promotes American principles abroad; and national leadership that accepts the United States' global responsibilities. Of course, the United States must be prudent in how it exercises its power. But we cannot safely avoid the responsibilities of global leadership or the costs that are associated with its exercise. America has a vital role in maintaining peace and security in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. If we shirk our responsibilities, we invite challenges to our fundamental interests. The history of the 20th century should have taught us that it is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they become dire. The history of this century should have taught us to embrace the cause of American leadership. Our aim is to remind Americans of these lessons and to draw their consequences for today. Here are four consequences: • we need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future; • we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values; • we need to promote the cause of political and economic freedom abroad; • we need to accept responsibility for America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles. Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our security and our greatness in the next. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I'll repeat my question; You have still not confirmd to us wheter or not you know of the National Fire Protection Association NFPA 921 Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations? Are you aware of this and what do you make of it? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

What is the inconvenient problem you speak of, i will answer it promtly if i can with the inforation I have available to me. The inly inconveinient problem is the basis of which the official myth has been creted upon, many like yo stillbelieve it was jet fuel that took down the tein towers and diesel that took down building 7, this was the official story up until november 20 last year, then it changed, do oyu know what the official reprt alleges now, or do you still stck to your argument you made a couple of yeards ago before any officila report was even finshed? whay was only 3 week allowed by the NIST to comment on its final report when it took the 7 ears to compete itm and scientifuc journals generally take much lonegr than 3 weeks to produce? Your story is so boigus and inly an idiot would believe it if they understood exacty what is implied. the truth though it the story is made to be too complex for most to understand so therefore even educated rationa people could believe it. Take Billvon for expample, he is so sure that he believes tha official stroy but admits to never have even read it! Science will win, and lies will be exposed... "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

ahhh, actually you are the one to be so certain of how they came to fall down, you are the engineer and self proclaimed expert, i simply want another investigaton because the origional one make no sence, is un scientific, based on assumtuon, and completely unlawful. and really it is not an investgation at all, it is simply a perfomance report and a bogus one at that. You have still not conformd to us that you know of the National Fire Protection Association NFPA 921 Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations? Are you aware of this and what do you make of it? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Hi there, I have competed at the world meet and cup a few times in freestyle as a camera guy. It is not easy, but is very rewarding. The main thing is for you to work with each other. You have to adjust your clothing a flying stye to allow for a similar neutral fall rate as each other. My teammate and wife, is only 110 lbs and every time we have competed she has had winglets on her freestye suit and can fall amazngly slow and incredibly fast. making a routine is everything and the sooner you do that the sooner you will see a significant benifit in your results. knowing what to expect is key. If you understand what each other has to do and what each other is capable of and remain withing you capabilites then you should do fine. Start wit a simple routine, add and subtract manoevers as you both see as necessary and work on making a flowing yet achievable routine. Don't be too afraid of the compulsory maonoevers, depending on your skill, they can be very difficult, even the champions can have trouble with them. the main thing is to continue to have fun and allow yourselves to congratulate each other on making advancements, it is too easy to be too critical and end up in disagreement. The tunnel will be a great tool for you, if you can afford it you should aim to get about 2-3 hours each with a coach to give you a good understanding of freefly basics, it will take much longer and more money to be proficient on your head in the tunnel, but having good head up skills is key to beginning, many of the advanced camera flyers do everything on thier head, but that comes with time. it is an artistic dicipline so for your free routine you can do what you please, the main thing is to have fun! Good luck and I hope to see you in competition in the future! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

i'm not into assumtion, i am into investigation. if the USA would pull head out of the sand and actually complets a criminal investigation, then we may find an answer to your question. Until then, we will let the very dedicated and educated people that are making expenential progress towards the truth, continue to do so. you can deny all you want and name call all you want. the official myth is nothing more than that, a myth! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Damn straight, and those that 'allowed' it to happen should be held accountable. that fact is that no criminal investigation has ever been done, and all hypothesis' are purely speculation. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Two assumtions make a fact? you truly are a 'master debator'. I don't pretend to know about you and your life, in fact i couldn't give a shit about it. What I do know is that a very small proportion of people in america have passports and many have no desire to see or learn anything about any thing other than american culture, to a point where they want to impose american culture on those that they have no understanding of. This has not happened by accident. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix