rhys

When you begin to describe yourself like that in an attempt to describe me, it means you have become aware of what it is you are doing and instead of accepting fault you are trying to blame me for your shortcomings, that is why you guys are so rifed up over a simple act yet you fail to condem the atrocities that happen before your eyes n a daily basis. You put this energy into it because you dislike me and my beliefs, not becasue you are so anti what I did. That is obvious, but you would like us to think you are acting out of the goodness of your heart. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

well prsented and concise does not necessarily exclude facts, it is clear there are facts that you ignore but those that you oppose have studied intently woth years of knowledge in the field. You just callthem lyers and frauds. That is 9/11 this conversaton is not, if you can't stick to the subject then butt out and go elsewhere! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I suppse you can tell whether a book is any good by the picture on the front too? Thats a talent you got there you know. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

The difference is that he broke the law and was dishonest! does that run in the family? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I am not going to get into the 9/11 topic in this thread but the mindset is similar. not the same, but similar. I beleive a well presented and concise hypothesis, you say I am wrong, and beleive a different more vague and spread out hypothesis that goes against newtons laws of gravity. You say I am just wrong becuase I am listening to people that are lying. I study it, I find out that you have been listening to lies, ignoring them, ignoring evidence and calling industry professionals lyers because you cannot refute what it is they have discovered. This discussion is more about attitude and being able to explain your feelings, and thoughts openly and honestly, than what is right and what is wrong, what we believe to be the truth we can change with information that is given to us. You usual tactic of insulting peope and attacking thier integrety without addressing the subject matter is all too common of those that are not in touch with their true selves and trying to push n adgenda rather than seek the truth. If you want to talk about 9/11 go to the appropriate thread, there are many of them! An accusation is not an explanaition. I suggest you be more honest with yourself, and everybody. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

That is similar, Lets face it, we are not going to reinvent the wheel are we. it looks a little uncomfortable though being made out of cordura, does that not dig into your wrist? How is the filter attached, to the camera or the glove? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I don't have a policy for that but if you were here that would be no problem, you would likely want one after using it for a couple of weeks and get one anyway. I suggest you keep the mods happy and protect your integrety by not mixing ploitical and emotional discussions in inappropriate threads. Also by not jumping on a bandwagon and letting it cloud you ability to think for yourself. say your piece and let water flow under the bridge. if you don;t want to do thet there is a specific thread for that converstaion. It will be hard for you to get ahead in life with an attitude like that. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

To avoid repost I will make link to to a post i have already made; click here third post down not sure how to direct it straight to the post... I gave up waiting for a handicam glove that suited my wants and needs so made one myslelf along with a go pro lens filter, I will imporve the design and manufacture and will be producing them for sale within a month or two. Anyone interested can PM me or email rhys@mt-vision.com I will make them custom and will make alterations if desired. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

What crime? I told them I don't want them anymore. Am I expected to know everything, i know you know everything but I am just a regular guy, i don;t know anything other than what people have told me and that is that i can get my money back if i return the goods withing 90 days. Thats what I did. You remind me of the cop that tried to give me a fine for not wearing a helmet on my skateboard. He was sure it was the law, I explained to him that I agree that I should probably wear a helmet when using the a skateboard, but a skateboard is a vehicle not a cycle and there is no legislation for helmets and skateboards yet. He called his office after flicking through his 'law book', he reluctantly told me to carry on. what seems right is not always right. am I a bad person because I don't wear a helmet? I don't think so, maybe a little stupid or lazy but I am well within my rights to ride a skeateboar in any place one can ride a bicycle, with no helmet on! I was also well within my rights to return the goods when had tried them and decided i didn't want them' for whatever reason. We know your train of thought is almost polar opposites to mine so I can agree that we disagree, but don't accuse me of braking the law. Saying it is a fraud is only true when I did not tell the truth somehwere. If I never lied, how can it be fraud. If you suggest it is my responsability to explain my reasons for paying for the goods, why was I not asked and where does it say that this is the case? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I can disagree with mindset, i have not been proved to be at fault, some disagree with my actions, that is their rigt as well as yours. You have proved nothing other than the fact that you need other people to explain your skewed feelings and you do not act individually. That is sad, you want to discredit me and make yourself look like an angel, when you quite clearly are not in touch with your true self or wish not to expose it. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I prefer Go pro bro! I have been using the go pro full time for a couple of weeks now. My current DZ runs full time handicam, the customers have always been offered photos with their DVD and these have been grabbed off the camera. We have been grabbing the footage (avchd) in standard definition high quality on cx100's and Panasonic sd9's. The computers accept this much faster than HD from the Sony and Panasonic but the result is awful photos that are hardy even good enough for facebook. The dubbsta's noticed that the computers are importing Go Pro footage filmed in 720 @ 60fps about the same speed as the Sony cx100 footage filmed in standard def. The result is the Go pro footage is heaps crisper on the DVD especially in slowmo. The photos are also, once and for all, really nice quality. The footage from the Go Pro is also wider and crisp from edge to edge rather than the grainy images we get from the expensive wide conversion, lenses. It’s a no brainier! For me I can't wait to get rid of my cx100 but I need it for outside camera until I get a contourHD1080 for that. I have made a handicam glove for the go pro. I wanted to have a low profile glove. The only system I had seen available uses the mounting hinge and the water proof case. I don't trust that hinge in minus 20degreesC at 200kmph. I have seen (supposedly strong) plastic snow shovels shatter and I imagine that stuff doing the same is such conditions with a riser etc... So I decided to not reinvent the wheel, stick with neoprene and the result is in the attached pictures. I have ordered a binding tape attachment for my sewing machine and the appropriate materials, the example you see in the photos is made from 3 beer coolers some binding tape and a broken set of goggles. I intend on selling these in the short future and will advertise them in the classified, they will be quite inexpensive. The 'Go pro bro'. I designed a crude filter using a coke bottle to address the filter problem. I will supply a more refined filter (or 2) and other mods that make the 'go pro bro' the lightest, lowest profile, most snag proof and user friendly handicam glove on the market. I will be making them forward facing also for skiing and snowboard outside filming etc too, those will encompass the water proof case. Each glove will be custom made to fit, at leat at first. After I have completed my current orders I'm sure they will be ready for the market. Sorry about the advertising form moderators and the semi repost but this conversation is not limed to instructors. Just putting it out there. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Tena koe Wayne All good, I can understand your viewpoint, but for this reason I would never send goods to anyone without payment, if they paid and were not happy for whatever reason I would think about giving them thier money back all thigs considered, as long as the goods were in the same condition as I gave them in. I would not offer such a 90 day deal... I hope I don't need too much luck (for the DZ) but I welcome your warm thoughts, there will be many barriers but experience, honesty, integrety and hard work will get us through. A little paperwork and a couple more weeks and the marketing begins... kia kaha, Aroha nui, ka kite ano. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Sweet bro, thanks for your input, we can agree to disagree on that one for sure. I would be intersted to meet you and i'm sure my swooping endeavours will end me up in texas at some point. I would be interested to have a beer with ya, you seem interesting and have a good sence of humour. Pretty sure I won't be camping though, but thanks for the offer. As far as the electric skatebprd goes, I'm sure you would want one if you saw it. 0-30 kmph in 4 seconds, 25kph up steep hills, offroad wheels with tyres. Gets me to work faster than a car, costs nothing to run. M6-800 off road electric skatboard It cost me $1400, $$600 shipping! I don't have a car in Australia, i don't need one! That makes me feel good. Being the dutchie I am, I charge it in the parking section of the apartment building, the electricity is paid by the management. I suppose I had better give em a cheque for the power I scammmed out of em. Fuck that they have that pesky light that shines in the room all night, just for one more week rhys, just for one more week. Did I just say that out loud? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Their policy is 'no questions asked' as far as i am aware, can you show m otherwise? that does not seem to have any exclusions as far as i can see? Do you think, maybe, that the employee was simply apathetic and failed to do her job, or? I told them i did not eant them anymore. what is it that I don't understand? I had purchased stuff from them before, and did so after, how am I not a customer? Just because I dislike thier practices does not mean i will not ever shop there, i would prefer not to but I have also never pretended to be perfect. Sometimes it is is just too much effort or too late to do otherwise. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

because? tick, tock, tick, tock! I have given you my feelings and suggested what you may think by my thought process. Yet you are reluctant to expose you beliefs in the fear that you will be weakened by doing so. you just want to jump on an opprotunity to attack me, because that is waht you do, you attack people. I have witnessd you do it to me and many others on multipule occasions, you don't seem to realise that I understand completely your motive for participating in this converstaion and am not pointing out to you or anyone other than myself that my assertions are correct. You in fact prove me right, because this was, as i clearly pointed out, and excersise. I don't doubt that it is possible to prove me wrong, I am agnostic and openminded by nature. I certainly question things before making my decision on whether to beleive them or not. This is something you could benifut from. You cannot beleive everything you have been to told, and you have the right to make your own decision. I cannot argue that with you you have the right to think what you want as do I, buth we are both also responsable for the repercussion of our actions and have to be realistic about what is right and what is wrong, but you simply accuse me while not explaining why. I'm bored of you! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I could not agree more. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

When I was in Africa there was malaria everywhere. We took some of the local expat scientists and researchers at the local hospital there for a jump and became their friends. They were studying tropical diseases especially. I learned from them that malaria is more often than not miss-diagnosed, the local population have seen many people die and they do not understand the scope of disease. Therefore every stubbed to and illness that has stomach cramps or fever is blamed on Malaria. By that rationale, does that mean that malaria does not exist? I don't like the term 'global warming' and I have grown to dislike the term ‘climate change’ as neither of them encompass the scope of the problems we are facing. It simply comes down to recourse management and how much we all understand about the repercussions of our actions. I imagine many of you don’t stop to think of what happens to the stuff you throw away, or what it was that was used to create it and know many of you are the right wing free trade do what ever you please type character. I can agree to disagree on those things, but the fact of the matter is that through greed, lack of education or inadvertent repercussions of our actions, we are destroying the fragile ecosystems on our most beautiful and living environment. Everybody dances around semantics, regulations and politics while the decimation continues. Currently you have a bunch of greedy cunts that have controlled much of the worlds oil supply for many decades and become the most affluent and impressionable people in the world and they are not even able to cap a leaking oil well. They were too busy trying to make even more billions investing in other areas and they can't even fix up a mess that they created without burning it? This is crap, we all should be ashamed of ourselves and we should agree to begin to change our ways. This by the way does not mean we have to miss out on anything in particular because we can always substitute for another. We just need to use our brains more, and not be controlled by those that want to make profit out of us, whichever your definition of profit is. The exponential human impact on the very life that supports us is overwhelming. It is also ‘seemingly’ impossible to reverse. The life of Planet Earth is being depleted and destroyed at an exponential rate for the profit of a few and at a great expense to us all, and those that follow us. It is not just about temperature or carbons, it is much more than that, it is the attitude that there will always be these recourses and that we have no responsibility to look after them. That is weak, that is arrogant, uneducated, ignorant and stupid. It is a shame, but it is reality. You can choose to ignore it, or you can choose to try to move towards sustainability. But who cares anyway, we'll all be dead in 80 years anyway, right? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I thought this was interesting myself; Ahmadinejad Defiant in Face of U.N. Sanctions, Israeli Military "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

One thing I am not doing is bragging, I was ridiculed for a simple action that was favourable to me and slightly unfavourable for the world’s largest retail chain. I have been ridiculed before and I will be ridiculed again, correct me if i am wrong but one should stand up for what they believe in and I believe I did no wrong. You and everybody (well almost everybody eh Tardo) that has felt the urge to insult me or accuse me, fail to answer the very question the post you are replying to CLEARLY points out. After which, you have the audacity to call me a fraud in the very same reply. You clearly do not get it! I suggest you work on you comprehension. All I am pointing out is that cannot explain what is wrong with what I did. You can say it is immoral all you like, but for that to be backed up, you have to explain why or how. I was pointing out that you are basing you beliefs on peer pressure and not reality, you so easily say I am a fraud, but you cannot explain. Why don't you even try? You cheer the tardmeister for doing so becasue you failed yoursef, you hold the hope in your peers and not yourself. So everything your mummy and daddy teach you is the correct thing to do? In a perfect world buddy, this is reality. That is why we have laws, explain what little rule your mummy and daddy taught you that I managed to miss out on, seriously, I am intrigued Then I would reply to you, as I have done in here, and you would be exposed as the fraud you are. I am allowed to call you a fraud because I suggest you are trying to be someone you are not. I suggest you're trying to be the almighty online good guy. In reality you wouldn't have the guts to say that to my face, as you know you would get the very same answer you would here, I would wait anxiously for your reply and when you would inevitably fail to produce anything. I would mock you so hard and you would have no other choice but be humiliated. If you reply to anything can you please reply to the following, so I can grow a little? If you are so concerned about my actions that you would come and confront me about it personally, what are your thoughts on Wal-Mart’s conduct as far as their tactics on maintaining market dominance? If you are so rifled up about me using a tent on a trial basis, and returning it in good faith and receiving my money back with jovial and respectful demeanour, I would like to know what level of hatred you have for Wal-mart. Have you any clue of what sort of conduct they are responsible for? Not to compare their actions to mine, but to know what your thoughts on their actions are. If you are so wound up about me doing a petty thing like that, suerly your impulsive attitude towards, evildoers' will carry over to other fields and individuals as well. Some continuity is needed if you are going to play 'the good guy'. I'm the bad guy in your books remember! bad guys do bad stuff, what do good guys do? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

'Timmay' So when you trial something you are obliged to buy it? Maybe they were sure I would change my mind, you know, I almost did at one stage, until it got windy! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

And I have clearly stated that the goods were not as good as they were advertised, I knew this when I got them and i knew they would not be as good as they say, I have to admit they were pretty damned good for the price, but not 3 seasons. i don't like wet shit, i also knew it wouldn;t matter for the time i need it for. i also clearly stated that i thought they use this policy to assure thier customers about the cheap crap the send out the door... I clearly stated many things you cearly seem to have ignored. Ever heard that song; 'it never rains in california', or whatever it is? They are not far wrong! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you chimed in on the conversation about here somewhere, missed a whole lot of stuff. Wal-mart are responsable for many illegal activities that damage its surrounding economies and residents more than anyone is willing to admit. they have the best buying power and the largest market share yet they ripp off their own staff and counter sue people that legally aquired compestation from them. If you do a little research, you will see that I am far from the bad guy. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

This is a great reply and it is about time someone actually had an intellegent conversation around here. They are not in the business of loaning merchandise out, they are in the business of selling it. They are the largest retail chain in the world and one of thier policies allowes potential customers to 'trial the goods,no questiones asked'. Can yo refer me to the section in their policy that stipulates that the intent for taking the goods must be to purchase them? If you can do that I will admit fault, and I will think twice about ever doing it again. The polocy was not presented to me in this way by any persons other than those the have expressed concern in this discussion and the two that preceeded. i suggest I was taking the goods on a trial basis garanteed with a refundable deposit of the total of the value of the goods. As long as they are returned in new condition and with the origional packaging, if I dd not want them, then i did not have to purchase them. I truly appreciate your rational and concise reply and look forward to resolvng the issue of whether or not this conduct is reasonable. As far as I was aware, I was allowed to trial the goods for 90 days if I wanted. I only had them a couple of weeks. I decided I did not want to keep the goods as they were not suitable for what they were advertised to be suitable for. 3 seasons in New Zealand is a little more intense than 3 seasons in norcal. I would be better off spending $500 than $150 or whatever it was, I cannot truthfully remeber the total amout but it was less than $200 for a family tent and air mattress, seemed too cheap but they said it was good on the packet? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Did you forget or decide not to acknowledge the part where they do not have such a policy, you know 'no questions asked'. They would have a warrantee polcy but not a no questions asked policy. if they did have a n questons asked policy, at that point i would cease to be a bad thing! Once again just like the noises coming from my dads elvis records, while making scratch music when I was a Kid. chika chicka, repeat repeat, chicka chicka, havn't heard that before... The public is presumed to be too apathetic or scared of what people will think of them to bring them back, that is how they get away with it. There cerainly are people that are not, and they have accounted for them. I challenge you to explain what is immoral about my actions. Thats your choice, I respect that. To answer your cheeky question, I beleive they do not need to take advantage of their saff and their communities to maintain dominance over the market, if a company is doing well, its staff should be doing well also,that is morally correct. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Apparently that is an attack on my integtrety, you are calling me dishonest and a fraud. I havd better explain yourself, that was a personal attack, and an unfounded one. I would put $20 on the fact that you would not have the guts to say that to my face, I am a non violent person but you would not hang around too long because you would soon be the object of ridiucule. Remember that would be in a place that personal attacks would be allowed and I would be defending myself. Grow the fuck up! I could create a list of people now that have told me I am; A fraud, breaking the law, despicable, dishonest, and untrustworthy. yet not of these people, like yourself, have the intellegence or theory to back up your assertions. You based your reaction on a whim and the percepton of what other people think of you, You do not respect yourself and you lie to yourself and to others in order to make yourself look better. You interety is apparently non existant. How about an intellegent conversation? Or you could go back to being a post whore talking about irrelevant stuff while trying to impress your freinds of the same Ilk. That is what you are more likely to do as you cannot please everybody when you are open and honest now, can you. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix