diverdriver

Define "big money". My price would be pretty darn high. You know I must uphold a professional image being a safety bitch and all. Besides....those darn pics would never go away here on dz.com.

QuoteYea. And Snuffy is gonna quit posting on Rec.skydiving too. Bwahahahhahahahah.........bahahahahahhahahha......roflmao. Oh man....I'm crying....that was too funny.

They volunteer...which makes it very very scary! There are some people that should not be seen in a mens or womens bikini Yah, and that's why they made so much money last year. We really, REALLY didn't want to see that. Would just be too awful. So you better be ready to put down some money to make sure it doesn't happen. Cuz these jokers really put down the money to make us all ill. Or they are really repressed and just want to "come out". I don't know which yet.

This is not skydiving related. Please post this stuff in "Talk Back". And actually, it's already been posted there.

Actually, I do the math. They don't call me Chris "GPS" Schindler just because I use a GPS. To quote Michael John from SDC "He's like a computer." The "spot" is not just one point. It is actually a cone of differing size and shape depending on the wind direction and speed. Most people jumping larger turbine planes will call the spot where the first group is allowed to climb out. The next spot is the last point a group can exit and still make the airport. I try to hook the jumprun before we get to that outer point. You make distinction between military and civilian jump pilots as being something negative. I don't think that civilian jump pilots get the training that military pilots do. They can figure it out on their own if they want to be precise but they have to seek the knowledge. I once had a Air Force para-rescue team that trained at Monterey Bay ask me if I wanted to get into the reserves to fly C-130s. They wanted me so that I could spot them better than the guys they had. LOL.....then I ran into Johnny "Luv" Horton again at Nationals Eloy and he told a story of their commander going off on some 130 driver who put them off their target saying he knew a civilian jump pilot (me) who could spot better with a damn Garmin handheld than he could with all his charts. Made me laugh. I really don't see it as hard math. Maybe it's a Zen thing and I've just tuned into the air. Stan Musual (sp?) said that he could see the laces on the baseball when a curve ball was pitched so he knew where it was going. Bob Gibson was telling the story and he said his eyes got really wide. "You can see the laces?" Bob said. At least, I think that's how the story goes. I guess I just can "see" the air molecules moving. Yah, that's it. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

You know, this would have been a lot funnier if it had been in Talk Back rather than a serious topical forum. Can we get a Greenie to move this?

Hey, Bo, I think Bill was being a bit sarchastic. His arguements have been taken from many of the "war" threads on here that I'm guessing you may not have really read. He's just throwing it back now. Very deftly I might add.

[replyWho cares about their rights when there are people living in fear? Something must be done, even if it might be wrong! Right!.....Get the pitch forks and torches! To the castle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, but eventually the dorms get filled and ya gotta do something with all those people -- ya know, ya gotta come up with a final solution. And there you have it. The leap from destroying a runway to exterminating a whole population. Wow, we really can prove anything with statistics!

Ahahahahhahaha.......Curses you Riddler!!!!

Dubya says he's alive, which is good enough to prove Bill's point that we shouldn't be so quick to believe the stories as they first come out. _Am Yah, but no one believes George when he says Sadham has chemical weapons he is hiding so why believe Bush when he says SH is still alive? Bush could be lieing since if SH was dead then many might say the regime has been removed and we should pull out and stop bombing. Chew on that one for awhile. I'll get back to y'all.

They volunteer! And no I won't!

I'm glad you asked that question. It does seem to be a glaring inconcistancy in what I posted. Here's why. The AFF/AFP instructor is supposed to be more knowlegdable than the average Joe in skydiving. Also, students tend to take a long time to "climb out" or get in position naturally. This extra time is making up the seperation necessary to be safe. The AFF/AFP instructor also has direct control over the student so they can slow the climbout down if needed for strong uppers. Another trick to add in seperation without anyone really knowing it is to do crosswind jumpruns (which I prefer). It keeps the groundspeed up AND it causes the groups to drift parallel to each other rather than directly at each other. Pretty smart huh? Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Oh yah, I forgot. When I was doing CRW we always got out at 6K because if we didn't get it together there was usually a compatibility issue so why go to full altitude. That was a Cessna DZ so you didn't have plane after plane making drops on the same area. The tandem out first at 10K then the rest of the load going to 13k has never made much sense to me. I know other DZs use it and make it work but it would seem to me to increase their fuel burn per load and increase their turn around time. I hate doing two passes at normal jumprun altitude because of silliness. I can't imagine wanting to do more than one pass with tandems on board. The idea of circling around and dropping in the same area in about 2 minutes scares me in that they could also have a premature deployment. I certainly would want to level off during their exit so that there is less risk of a tail strike (yes I've had a drogue tail strike in the otter so it is possible). Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

ABSOLUTELY NOT!! I can't believe we are still preaching this doctrine. Well, I guess I will have to post John Kallend's work on freefall drift again so people can see why this is a bad idea. Take a look HERE for the information. The exit order should be: Flat fliers largest group to smallest. Free fliers largest group to smallest. Freefall students with instructors. Tandems. Wingsuits. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

We now have the "Ghestapo" in the US and they are called the TSA. Daley is a wanna be ghestapo. This was really poor. We watched his news conference about it and he looked all disheveled and he was moving behind the podium very nurvously. His speach was very curt and he claims it's for security of downtown. Yet the tower of Meigs field gave much more protection of downtown than if it were not there. If a plane did not contact them coming into the downtown area they would have much more of a heads up than anyone will now. Now.....there will be no one watching planes coming to the downtown area. Daley got his presious TFR around downtown up to 3,000 feet. But I guarantee that a C-182 loaded with explosives could get into the downtown area before anyone could blink. Daley has done nothing useful and only destroyed millions of dollars in taxpayer money. F'n puke. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Bwaahhahahhahaha........touche! Yah, but I'm rubber and you're glue.

Huh? What? Did you say something? I was thinking about something else to not believe so when you spoke I did not hear you. You are only coming through in waves.....

I do not believe you exist. There.....take that!

Oh, ok.

Yup, same here, I think that's the best way. Well, I'll just disagree. The GPS gives you more accurate and timely information than the eyeball can. Out of a 4-6 place Cessna sure you can spot just fine. But for large planes the jumprun needs to be fairly precise to get everyone out on one pass. That saves fuel. Sure, for safety we can always go around but constantly making 2 passes is really not needed. So, sometimes, using GPS for flying the jumprun is the best way. This doesn't mean you should never look out and down. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Got a link to that story?

You can't "rely" on GPS. Someone has to read it, understand it, and make decisions as to when to go. So whether you use an old timer putting his head out the door in back or you have a proficient pilot who understands wind drift, crab, and ground speed relationships on seperation does not matter. The only thing that matters is that you have a plan. Run the plan. Understand how to look straight down and know where you are over the ground. And if you are unsure of what is happening then don't jump. Allow people to go ahead of you if need be. Get advice on what to look for and expect. You should ALWAYS look out the door for any air traffic that the pilot may have missed. Now, understand, there may be times you see other planes in the traffic pattern below. They will be below your deployment altitude. And really, if the plane is straight below you when you are in the plane then they won't be there when you get to their altitude. The threat comes from the side. Or from underneath the plane because you didn't look far enough under it. My suggestion is that you get ready and start looking out the window for other traffic 2 minutes before dropping. Usually the plane will have made a couple of turns getting onto jumprun during that time giving you the oportunity to scan the area well before you get over the DZ. Hope that helps. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Helloooo Vicki Vail.

[Muhamed Ali pointing finger]oooooo.......Gemini.....oooooooo.....gonna get you.....oooooooo skycat.....dufus huh? Well.....oh look! A penny! Neeto!