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Why do you conclude that the outcome would have been different if the cutaway had been pulled first. Check out the link on post 7 of this thread. This issue is far from settled, and I think it is not right to assert that the answer is obvious. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

way of what? Pisses you of what? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Man: Is this the right room for an argument? Other Man: I've told you once. Man: No you haven't! Other Man: Yes I have. M: When? O: Just now. M: No you didn't! O: Yes I did! M: You didn't! O: I did! M: You didn't! O: I'm telling you, I did! M: You didn't! O: Oh I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour? M: Ah! Just the five minutes. O: Just the five minutes. Thank you. ....Anyway, I did. M: You most certainly did not! O: Now let's get one thing perfectly clear: I most definitely told you! M: Oh no you didn't! O: Oh yes I did! ___ M: Oh no you didn't! O: Oh yes I did! M: Oh no you didn't! O: Oh yes I did! M: Oh no you didn't! O: Oh yes I did! M: Oh no you didn't! O: Oh yes I did! M: Oh no you didn't! O: Oh yes I did! M: No you DIDN'T! O: Oh yes I did! M: No you DIDN'T! O: Oh yes I did! M: No you DIDN'T! O: Oh yes I did! M: Oh look, this isn't an argument! O: Yes it is! M: No it isn't! M: It's just contradiction! O: No it isn't! M: It IS! O: It is NOT! M: You just contradicted me! O: No I didn't! M: You DID! O: No no no! M: You did just then! O: Nonsense! M: (exasperated) Oh, this is futile!! O: No it isn't! M: Yes it is! I came here for a good argument! O: AH, no you didn't, you came here for an *argument*! M: An argument isn't just contradiction. O: Well! it CAN be! M: No it can't! An argument is a connected series of statement intended to establish a proposition. O: No it isn't! M: Yes it is! 'tisn't just contradiction. O: Look, if I *argue* with you, I must take up a contrary position! M: Yes but it isn't just saying "no it isn't". O: Yes it is! M: No it isn't! O: Yes it is! M: No it isn't! O: Yes it is! M: No it ISN'T! Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says. O: It is NOT! M: It is! O: Not at all! M: It is! O: Thank you, that's it. M: (What? O: That's it. Good morning. M: But I was just getting interested! O: I'm sorry, the five minutes is up. M: That was never five minutes!! O: I'm afraid it was. M: No it wasn't..... O: I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more. M: WHAT?? O: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes. M: But that was never five minutes just now! (p Oh Come on! ....Oh this is... This is ridiculous! O: I told you... I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you PAY! M: Oh all right. There you are. O: Thank you. M: Well... O: Well WHAT? M: That was never five minutes just now. O: I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid! M: Well I just paid! O: No you didn't! M: I DID!!! O: YOU didn't! M: I DID!!! O: YOU didn't! M: I DID!!! O: YOU didn't! M: I DID!!! O: YOU didn't! M: I don't want to argue about it! O: Well I'm very sorry but you didn't pay! M: Ah HAH!! Well if I didn't pay, why are you arguing??? Ah HAAAAAAHHH! ...Gotcha! O: No you haven't! M: Yes I have! .... If you're arguing, I must have paid. O: Not necessarily. I *could* be arguing in my spare time. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Some of the "I want to argue" posters would be happy if there was a type of post where nobody can reply. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

The ability to fully stall it doesn't mean you have to stall it while landing. If your available toggle 'stroke' is a long way from being able to stall, then you can't get the best landing performance out of your canopy. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Yes, definitely. If you watch a lot of others, I think you will notice a tendency to have a staged flare, even if they don't completely stop in between. I think you probably are overanalyzing. Your canopy is more forgiving of flare technique than you may think. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

A good jumpsuit mfg will advise you to pay a little extra for double layered, heavyweight fabric on the arms and legs. Booties can make a little bit of difference too. Get the large grippers. Swoop cords are available to help inflate the extra wing that the mfg should custom size to your needs. How tall are you? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Whether the DZ wants to transfer it should not matter. Essentially you just have to tell the DZO that you want to pay for John Doe's jumps from now on. You make the arrangement with John Doe about how he pays you. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

What brought that on? Not funny at all. Very bad form old chap. Very bad indeed. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

What is the point and why is it funny? During a war that is to be expected, and the changes are not much. Some aspects of the Patriot Act I agree to be unconstitutional, and there are plenty of groups advocating for them to be fixed. Some think it makes us look bad, I think there was no choice but to enforce the conditions of the gulf war cease fire. Do you expect a war to make a country richer? That was how war was a long time ago (pillage/plunder and all that sort of stuff). I think this is a lousy criteria for deciding on whether to go to war. There is a lot of disagreement on the war. Our representatives in government did not just take a poll to decide. It was their job to decide. No. I think it is quite interesting that some of the detainees that are being released are being refused by their own countries. I think that should be a clue to us to hold them longer, they are not guys you want to be free. Islamic facists are at war with the free world. Many are in denial about this fact. Many attacks have been stopped, including one against several sites in Europe shortly after 9/11 (the Hague, NATO headquarters and some others if memory serves me). The US government has not been bragging much about all the plots that have been spoiled, because it would not be comforting to know that there were so many plots. Many thought that Neville Chamberlain was a hero his great feat of diplomacy with a piece of paper, declaring, "Peace in our time". Even Stalin was misled because of his desire to avoid war. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I don't think many would be able to run around a canopy that is getting pushed by 25 mph winds. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Quite right. Why is it that pilots haven't started a new discipline where the common pilot (not just airshow acrobats) dives the plane at the ground, leveling out with just a few inches to spare? Because it will not be so long before you screw up. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I would try putting a package outside the door, baiting someone to steal it, so you can know who is doing it and get them busted. Then I would move. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

The term terrorist/terrorism isn't very useful because it is hard to define. What is essential is that Al Qaeda has explicitly declared war against us. Many would deny that we are at war. Many would choose to pretend like it is just a nuisance, treat it as a law enforcement issue and provide more resources to police, 'first responders', hospitals, etc. I think we should take the war to them. Sovereign governments have decided to help Al Qaeda and other groups wage war against us. The leadership of much of the Arab and Muslim world is either encouraging it, or pretending to condemn it in public while praising it in private with their followers. When their leadership changes their tune, then the followers will follow. Time to choose sides. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

A pic was attached. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

It has already been done, it was posted here a year or so ago. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Definitely number 2. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

You may be able to feel it, but I suggest also looking up during the flare to see how it behaves. The only broken lines I experienced included an outer A line. The canopy was turning fast and left no doubt that it had to go. I did have a 5 foot long fore-aft rip in my bottom center cell. It flared OK up high and did not descend faster than other nearby canopies, so I kept it and had a very nice stand up landing. In the good-ol-bad-ol-days, you were left to contemplate whether you would have a worse landing under your round reserve or your partially malfunctioned main. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

UBL claimed responsibility, and the Arab world accepts that he did it. Why don't you believe them? Wouldn't they be the first that would want to deny it if they could? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I am talking about those who would not even have invaded Afghanistan: George Galloway, the British Member of Parliament who's been accused of taking money from Saddam Hussein's regime, says British Prime Minister Tony Blair is to blame for Thursday's attacks in London, insisting Londoners have now "paid the price" for his decisions to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Galloway says, "The loss of innocent lives ... is precisely the result of a world that has become a less safe and peaceful place in recent years. ... We argued ... that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically ... the government ignored such warnings." Do you support the action taken in Afghanistan? Many say it was not necessary. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

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I wasn't referring to polygamists. I was referring to those opposed to gay marriage. Polygamy or bestiality has nothing to do with this issue, but it's a good deflection for those without a valid argument. I didn't mention anything about beastiality, but polygamy certainly does have something to do with this issue. Polygamy was legal in this country and is still common in certain parts of the world. I think those that don't want to deal with the unintended consequences of legalizing same sex marriages are just deflecting a valid concern. Many argue that same sex marriage should be legalized because it does not affect those outside the marriage and a loving devoted couple should be allowed to marry without regard to their gender. How do these points not apply to other unconventional relationships? I think polygamy was made illegal because polygamist men had the reputation for marrying very young, minor girls (with parent's permission), and that these girls were only willing to do it because they were raised/brainwashed in very isolated communities. People considered this victimizing the girls. I agree. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I think it will take a while, as did baseball and football to return strong after their last strike. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Hardly a theoretical issue, polygamists have struggled in the past for acceptance, why would they and others not seek it now? Why don't they 'have a leg to stand on'? The same arguments about nobody else is affected, etc. apply to polygamy and same sex incest among adults. At least Nightingale admits that she doesn't care about polygamy or incest. I think she is in the minority. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

To those that think the war on terrorism is not effective... What would be your solution? Apologize for making them mad and negotiate? What are their demands? Are you prepared to accept them? Please read this and try to hold on to the belief that we can fix this, if only we had the right diplomats and could convince them we will be nice: http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm To eaglenrider: Claiming that Al Qaeda doesn't exist and that Hamas is a creation of Israel is like another recent post requesting proof that Al Qaeda was responsible for the WTC attacks. The Arab world accepts that they exist and are responsible for it, why should we doubt them on this? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am