FLYJACK
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I can't think of any downside for giving the configuration early.. he had parachutes they knew he was likely jumping.. An "aviator" would accommodate the crew. Occam's Razor supports my theory.. there are no facts that reject it. The other one has unresolved issues or claims that are illogical. Cooper gave no path,, It was not a planned LZ... He was not dressed for a PNW jump in those conditions, Landing in the dark/cold/wet and hiking out is not easy.. Cooper would be wet cold and dirty. South is much better for jumping. The US/American currency qualifier suggests a "foreign" element. Cooper was described as Latin/Mexican/Native American. Cooper initially demanded airstairs lowered inflight. Cooper rejected large airports to refuel. He knew about refuelling and aviation,, he didn't get the range wrong. and why wasn't Cooper identified??? The standard investigative methods failed.. something unique occurred in this case.
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Because he made it clear they would be lowered infighting by the stew,, he wanted them to know the flight config before,, he never gave a path,,, That indicates he was going give a path and order the stew to lower the stairs inflight. I don't see any problem with Cooper telling the flight crew how he wanted the plane configured beforehand.. If he gave a specific LZ that would be an issue..
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This one is different, it conflates the early demands and the later ones.. If Cooper had said gear down flaps down WHEN airstairs lowered,, everything changes.. One missed word can change the meaning,, Before Reno, the crew assumed he wanted to fly dirty from takeoff,, he never said that.
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It limits the speed,, also, I discovered that when the military does low altitude cargo drops they have the gear down,, significant,, I don't know..
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He didn't ask for the stairs to be down initially,, he said to be lowered inflight by the stew.
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That is a summary of Tina's understanding and recall.. that is not necessarily Cooper's intended demand. In fact, Tina has conflated Cooper's initial demand with the later one... His initial demand was airstairs lowered inflight.. not on takeoff.
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He knew about refuelling that indicates he would understand range and the effect of flying dirty... Cooper would not know he was misunderstood.. He was told the plane can't make Mexico and would have to refuel.. We can't know what was going on his head... Look this a theory, it isn't proven, never will be... You guys keep using assumptions to reject it,, you need to challenge it with facts, not assumptions.
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Do you understand a non sequitur.. The point is the plane didn't fly straight south.. it flew SSW and SSE..
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That does not make sense,,, the demand would have to be rejected and renegotiated,, there is no advantage to this there is no con. You only have two options,, Cooper either miscalculated the range dirty or he was misunderstood. and he knew about refuelling... he knew flaps,, he had aviation knowledge.
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No,, He told Tina the config,, she relayed it to the crew,,, there is a note in the Files that they trying to figure it out.. One word can change the entire meaning... He never said fly the entire way "dirty"...
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Why not.. He initially said airstairs lowered inflight by stew.. he did not give any path other than anywhere in Mexico.
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I don't see an issue, he is telling the crew how to configure the plane for speed when the stew lowers the airstairs inflight.. Telling them in advance means he doesn't have to explain it later when he wants to jump.
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My theory is Cooper really requested the dirty config to be used WHEN the airstars were lowered inflight by the stew... His initial demand was airstairs lowered inflight. The crew misunderstood via Tina. When Reno was in play it all changes, he wanted aistairs lowered on takeoff and that means flying dirty. form takeoff. In the air he was to give a path and have the stew lower the airstairs.
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It wasn't a secret that he was going to jump he ordered parachutes.. Rat said they accidentally retracted the landing gear after takeoff then put it back down,, Cooper didn't complain..
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No chance,,, there is no way Cooper gave a demand destination that HE knew was impossible and would be rejected,,, So, Cooper must have believed Mexico to refuel was achievable when he made his initial demand.. it was not a ruse. No way. There are only two options,, Cooper miscalculated the distance flying dirty all the way or his demand was misunderstood... He had aviation experience and knew about refuelling so it is very unlikely he miscalculate,,, He was misunderstood
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It makes perfect sense. Cooper initially wanted the airstairs lowered inflight and I believe gave the dirty configuration to be used when the stairs were lowered not the entire flight,,, it was misunderstood. When Reno was in play Cooper wanted the airstairs lowered on takeoff and that would also mean flying dirty from takeoff. Before Reno and after Reno,, different..
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Yes.. I had this idea before I ever heard of H.. I never accepted the idea that Cooper knew where he was when he jumped (targeted) and the dominant narrative was that he demanded Mexico City as a ruse to get the plane heading south,,, that never ever made sense to me.. Nobody makes a demand they know will be rejected. Cooper believed the plane could make Mexico when he made that initial demand. I always believed Cooper initially wanted to jump outside the the US..
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Difference is,, he had the money and hostages had left. Landing in Seattle he had the hostages to swap for the money. For whatever reason, he felt landing in Reno was less appealing than jumping with the money. This is a theory, not provable.
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No, the plane was to refuel anywhere in Mexico. He could have jumped anywhere after that.
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I really don't know, nobody knows what was going on in Cooper's head.. people are not always rational. He had the money, was somewhat euphoric, his thinking may not have been the most rational at the time.. For whatever reason he felt jumping early was the best option. Knowing McChord or Tacoma isn't that big a deal... I know where they are and I am Canadian. I have flown out of Seattle once.. If Cooper was military and had been there before he would know...
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This has come up before... I believe Cooper didn't want the plane to fly dirty all the way when he gave his initial demands to Mexico.. That explains his apparent range error.. He wanted it to fly dirty when the stairs were lowered inflight. The instructions went to Tina then the crew and got misinterpreted.. When Reno was in play he wanted stairs down on takeoff and to fly dirty from takeoff.. this gets conflated. So, the crew said they didn't have the range to Mexico but Cooper wouldn't have understood why because he didn't intend for the plane to fly dirty all the way.. If PDX/Seattle was his backup attempt he wouldn't be as confident in the exact range to Mexico..
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My "theory" is that Cooper took a flight from the East heading West to hijack a plane to another airport.. For some reason he aborted, the flight lands/terminates in Portland. He never leaves PDX and picks 305 in another attempt. This is pure speculation but does fit the evidence.. So, don't attack me..
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#2 then when Reno was in play it became #1...
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You conflate pre and post Reno,,, Pre Reno,, he had an LZ he was going to give directions to the crew inflight.. somewhere further South probably South of the US border. Post Reno,, Cooper decides he doesn't want to be on the plane when it lands in Reno,, Decides to jump ASAP... with no predetermined LZ.. Cooper's LZ was ad hoc and that made the case harder to solve.
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So what,, you do understand the appeal to authority fallacy.... Nothing against Cliff but they seriously discussed the coastal route and that means it was a legit option. To claim there was only one option is just false. To use Cliff's opinion as fact is engaging in a logical fallacy. The coastal route is about 60-65 miles West and a better option to avoid populated areas..
