FLYJACK

Wow, so if a person has one thing off then they have everything off,, Is that your assertion councillor.. That is the worst argument from you yet... As a lawyer you know better. You know people can get things right and wrong.. in fact it would rare be for a witness to everything right. Reading the research, witnesses have a hard time with details,,

Flo never said anything about KK5-1's large nose,,, she made other suggestions.. Why leave out the nose... because she didn't think he had a small nose when she picked out KK5-1.. Your small nose argument is bogus.. You claimed the only reason for sketch B was the attribution error. FALSE, it was incidental. You claimed that a witness memory is better close to the event, TRUE generally,, but only if the conditions are all the same. You are using a generalization fallacy.

Why would prescription sunglasses be dead?? either they are or aren't. Are you claiming that if Cooper had a small nose he also had prescription sunglasses,, your logic is a twisted. The rest of your comment is made up nonsense. You always manufacture a derogatory characterization of others to support your own delusional opinion.. Is that how they roll in Mississippi... you just smear people who don't agree with your nonsense.

An inspection card.. 10 day?? https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vietnam-war-10-paratrooper-parachute-4567660426

A military packing card... front reserve https://www.tremontauctions.com/auction-lot/wwii-u.s.a.a.f.-jump-parachute-with-packing-card._11A4506AFE I found a military T-10 main with a packing card data pocket??

It never did... Flo was correct.

In my psychologically defective mind.. wouldn't a 10 ft long x 3 ft wide stair going down far enough to allow a man to stand act like an increased flap down condition... slightly slowing the aircraft?? and I thought the stairs did not hit the top when they bounced back... they came close but didn't hit.. the hit the top claim was speculation.. I can't remember where that is,, Where does it confirm a hit at the top?

Great argument... for a 12 year old.. Proof of your lack of integrity,, Take the L.... Your tiny nose nonsense is dead..

Let's just see how laughable it is... Tina, said she didn't see Cooper's face.. Flo, picked out KK5-1 suggested changes but NOT his big nose.. Alice said "nose small"... the only witness to say that in their interviews. So, who influenced sketch A's tiny nose.. Alice Woops,, Big nose picked by Flo....

I found that the military did use cards for bailout and reserves... They also use a card for chute expiry date.. Mains??

Reserves and bailout rigs are considered emergency parachutes and require a licensed rigger and card.. Mains do not require a card,,, can be packed by owner.. However, it is not clear that mains don't ever get a card... if packed by a licensed rigger.. I just don't know the answer to this.. Do mains never get a card or is it optional??

Ryan, I posted some examples... and there are several definitions of Jargon... I originally posted it to show your error claiming Cooper asked for bailout rigs. He didn't ask for nor expect bailout rigs. YOU GOT THAT WRONG Now, it was used by old school military, not exclusively.. maybe in specific branches or uses.. I researched this maybe 10 years ago... The context recently was differentiating between a sport jumper and military. It was not used by sport jumpers per Mark... it was used by military. I'll admit that it doesn't prove he took it from military experience... maybe it was completely random and he just made it up out of thin air... but so did Hahneman who had military experience. Either they both got it from similar old school military experience or They both coincidentally used the same random terminology.. Those are your only two options,, choose wisely.

Of course you are wrong... and your military source is as well because you asked the wrong question. The point is.. front and back is not used in sport jumping per Mark.. front and back could be a wuffo but Cooper was not a wuffo,,, neither was Hahneman front and back WAS used in military,, NOT exclusively.. Cooper most likely had military training,, Hahneman did. Conclusion.. Cooper was military not a sport jumper.. He also did not ask for a bailout rig.. front and back meant reserve and main. "Back and front T5 parachutes, retrieved on June 6 1944 in Sainte-Mère-Eglise. The back parachute’s bag is stamped N.A.F.I (National Automotive Fibres Inc.), and dated august 1943. It still has its folding booklet and his camouflage canvas with the same serial number. The black letters “RS” made with a stencil on the sling mean that this jumping equipment belonged to a patrooper of the 506th PIR, 101st Airborne. On June 13 1941, the T5 became the first automatic opening parachute with commanded opening autonomous “reserve”. The back parachute has a white or camouflage green canvas has 28 panels for a total surface of 52m2, whereas the front parachute has a smaller white canvas, with 24 panels for a surface of 45m2." https://www.dearfolksies.com/may-21-1944-75-years-ago-in-a-ww2-m-a-s-h-unit/ https://thearrowheadclub.com/2016/05/

So, you now admit you don't know where it comes from, just random... What are the chances of two military hijackers of a 727 using the same random phrase NOT used by military and NOT used by sport jumpers..

Hahneman and Cooper used that term.. These guys can't find anyone else who used that term,,

Flo picked out KK5-1 who had a large nose,, she suggested changes but didn't say anything about the nose.. Alice is the only one who said small nose in interviews... it must have been her input on the sketch.

You are really good at bad analogies..

Ok, so your argument is that Cooper just randomly used that term,, He wasn't a sport jumper, he wasn't a wuffo, he was most likely military but he randomly used that term.. you, Ryan and everyone know that how? and by coincidence Hahneman randomly used the same term.. that nobody ever uses.. is that your argument..

Not true,, I was responding to your false claims conflating bailout rigs with mains. The context was Hayden's 1940 era bailout rigs.. I was claiming that Cooper meant front reserves and mains when he said fronts and backs..NOT front reserves and a bailout rig. I never said it was exclusive as you keep claiming. I said it wasn't Fronts and backs is not sport jumper terminology. Cooper used the term and was not a sport jumper.. he was almost certainly military.. likely WW2 based on age and Hahneman used the same term.. So, it is false that military did not use that term...

I don't disagree that it could be used by wuffos.. Cooper wasn't a wuffo... So, if it wasn't used by sport jumpers and according to you it wasn't used at all by military and Cooper wasn't a wuffo.. then it would be extremely rare for Cooper to use that term.. right? Virtually impossible..

sure, I was responding to your incorrect claim about bailout rigs front and back means reserves and mains,,, that was what Cooper meant. NOT a bailout rig and a front reserve. Are you claiming that military personnel never use front and back...

You haven't established anything.. a few anecdotes contradicted by Hahnaman and Cooper.. You are claiming military never uses it... I am not claiming it is exclusively used by military.. Since it is NOT used by sport jumpers.. and you claim NOT used by military.. then according to your logic, nobody uses it? Is it so rare that no sightly experienced jumper would use that term.. is that your claim?

Are you speaking for Mark now.. So, according to you military didn't use it and according to Mark sport jumpers didn't use it... Not military and not sport jumpers. Is it so rare that no sightly experienced jumper would use that term..

No, that isn't the right one. I do appreciate you falsely and dishonestly asserting my source of error.

It wasn't used by skydivers... that is the whole point.. Mark (377) said so.. FACT.. Hahneman was old school military, he used the term. Cooper was old enough to be in WW2 and used the term,, sport jumpers don't use that term. If Cooper was not a sport jumper he was military.. Why is this so hard for you to understand.