FLYJACK

Acoustic from the 50's.. the two previous were electric.. I don't know how this one will will pan out, the player is dead... The other two were reunited with their previous owners.. Ryan chose to take a dig at me... If one of his elves had found three famous guitars he would be praising them....

Not funny,, but this is a really big one,,,, Nashville..

This is the juvenile passive aggressive BS that I have been subjected to... for sharing the same view as the FBI Ryan's personal animus for having his opinion questioned. Ryan attacks for me for not sharing my research, wonder why... Some of you aren't worthy..

and I just found a third very famous guitar...

After years of this,, I have no patience left for stupid arguments and the persistent disrespectful comments and especially people twisting my argument into something it isn't... and some are attacking me personally thinking that elevates their position.. they have done this for years because they don't have a rational argument. I am respectful to those who are respectful.. some aren't worthy. I have laid out the facts, you and others just ignore it in favour of your own opinion.. My argument is clear,, Cooper could be 5-9 or 5-11... based on the evidence. Yours is. under 5-10 is an outlier or dispositive... THAT is INSANE based on the evidence and a product of Ryan's influence. It is self evident that believing you are observing a hijacker would stick in your memory better than some random person in a crowd or served in a line of possibly hundreds..... and Tina, the only one who saw Cooper standing briefly in the dark knowing he was the hijacker had 5-10" as the lower bound... We don't know if she was still seated or face to face with him.. or how that went down.... a freaking 1/2" from 5-9.5",,, INSANE... Almost 10 witnesses had Hahneman at 5-11 or 6 feet standing and knowing he was a hijacker... So, this standing accuracy thing is complete BS... it is an assumption that fails in reality.. The FBI issued a memo to agents TO NOT ELIMINATE based on height to 5' 8".. So, once again my position matches the FBI but I am attacked... YES, all of you are wrong.. Stick to it... with that level of analysis you guys are going nowhere... fast Think for yourself.... don't follow these guys,,

So what... I said it is less reliable.. It doesn't prove Cooper's actual height in the context of all the evidence.

Projection...

Evidence and Rat also indicated Flo was emotional reluctant to follow instructions.. and kept her in the cabin. You know that, you have admitted that. I don't need documentation.. this isn't a court case.

That is not what I am saying.... you never fail to disappoint in your twisted logic. You and others claim a suspect 5-9.5" in shoes is an outlier or eliminated,, that is an opinion based on an a poor analysis of the evidence... and frankly some ignorance. Ryan you are smart guy, I really don't understand why you take that position.. it is not supported by the evidence. It is YOU who has inflated an opinion to fact.. and applied a negation against basic logic. This is amateur stuff.. It is a generalization (fallacy) without context to claim the witnesses seeing Cooper standing are correct and the others are not.. Each of those witnesses had a brief and unique experience... all but Tina say him standing BEFORE he was known to be the hijacker. and many Hahneman witnesses were also at 6 feet... HE was standing and KNOWN to be the hijacker. Height recall is not that reliable... and must be assessed within its context. Generalizations are ok for speculation but they shouldn't be used for negation. Cooper's height is not known fact,, no matter what you think. I am NOT claiming he must be under 5-10", YOU guys are claiming he can't be.. Your collective failures in understanding this distinction and your own bad logic indicates that this is a waste of time.. So, go immerse yourselves in your own groupthink,, I have no patience for irrational arguments.. Here is how this goes,,, you guys will figure this out in a few years and think it is something new... congratulate and praise each other as arbiters of Cooper truth..

You still fail to recognize my argument and are abusing the actual case evidence... and are employing a juvenile strawman.. A suspect 5-9.5" is NOT an outlier and is NOT eliminated based on the evidence.. If you guys believe this nonsense there is no discussion. You are not equipped to evaluate the evidence. End of discussion.

Again, extremely flawed and desperately twisted logic... Heights are not that accurate even self reported heights don't include shoes.. A guy 6' tall in shoes would be self reported 5-11".. But, I am not arguing Cooper has to be under 5-10"... I am arguing he very well could be based on the evidence... and 5-9.5" is not an outlier,,, it is only 1/2" under Tina's range... It is exactly in line with all the passenger witnesses... 5-9-10" The described weight and build suggests closer to 5-10 not 6' or plus. Even though Cooper was seated there is no evidence that all of the passengers were wrong,, that is an assumption... a cancer in this case. You people have misread the evidence.. and falsely overweighted some evidence and dismissed away others with no rational basis to do so.. You guys have no info that the FBI didn't have. Nobody measured Cooper's height, when asked later people give an impression from recall.. Witness height estimates are not very accurate.. Hahneman walked around and his height estimates were all over the place up to many at 6 feet.. Alice didn't see him standing.. Cooper was rarely standing. It was dark when he stood up and ordered Tina to the front. The ticket/gate agents didn't know he was a hijacker, they said they couldn't remember him if they saw him again. Not reliable. Flo only saw him standing when he boarded before he was known to be the hijacker.. the FBI thought Flo was emotional and less reliable than Mitchell. To claim a suspect 5-9.5" in shoes is an outlier or eliminated based on the evidence is absurd... It is an abuse of reason.

I have found some big errors. Not sure if I would call it "special insight". Not the same thing.. Nobody has shown any evidence for Cooper's size that the FBI didn't have.. The FBI used 5' 8" as the lower bound for suspects, the passenger witnesses all had 5' 9 -10" and averaged about 160 lbs.. even Tina had 5-10 as the lower bound... most well/medium/medium heavy build... The passenger witnesses saw Cooper seated which makes it harder to estimate height.. but it doesn't necessarily mean they were wrong (short) and weight and build is not affected by Cooper sitting.. Mitchell said Cooper was way smaller 5' 9-10 160 lbs, he was 5 feet away, men are better at sizing other men than women are.. Mitchell was 6-2.. A guy 6' plus and a medium/heavy build is not likely 160 lbs... That evidence proves Hahneman's size is not an outlier.. it is within spec.. This case is riddled with assumptions elevated to facts used to back up poor opinions. They are repeated and disseminated as fact.. they are not.

Might be true as a generalization but not in this situation.. you seem to enjoy pulling generalization from your hat... Claiming Hahneman is an outlier is absurd and abuse of reason. IMO, it is the same mediocre thinking that has plagued this case since the beginning and a little arrogance from people thinking they have some special insight the FBI didn't have.. The FBI used 5' 8" as the lower bound for suspect elimination. A suspect 5' 9.5" in shoes 160-165 lbs medium build is NOT an outlier. This is an opinion based on a poor analysis of the evidence. Groupthink has spread bad ideas like a cancer..

Groupthink..

Yes, of course "his" as in Hahneman's size... that doesn't make him Cooper it means he is NOT an outlier.... and NOT too small..

It isn't a stretch it is fact. This is why I really hate forums and repeatedly ignorant comments.. utter uninformed arrogant nonsense. This has been discussed over and over and over... People almost always self report height without shoes.. the FBI used 5' 8" as the lower bound for that reason. Draft cards are self reported. DL's and passports are self reported.. He is 5' 8 1/2" self reporting without shoes,, I have numerous records of him 5' 9" and some 5' 8".. He is rounding up or down.. The kill shot is that I have almost ten witnesses claiming he was 5' 11" or 6' feet tall for his hijacking.. he wasn't... this is a myth that won't die. Mitchell NAILED his size exactly....

I know where the money was hidden and how it was recovered.. and lots of other stuff. He matches the physical description very well... He isn't smaller,, that is the poorly formed opinion from Ryan... Cooper's described build and weight matches him and somebody close to 5' 10" not 6'.... witnesses had Cooper from 5' 9"... H was 5' 9 1/2" in shoes.. The FBI used 5'8" as the lower bound.. This myth that he is too small is nonsense. Mitchell had Cooper at 5' 9-10" medium build and 160 lbs,, said way smaller than himself at 6' 2".. matches him exactly. Mitchell was 5 feet away from Cooper. Way too many misunderstandings and misinformation...

Point is,, it is not dispositive. So far, no evidence they showed actual pics to Norjak witnesses... they could have but it isn't confirmed. They showed his actual pic to witnesses in his hijacking and some said not him.. He had a forgetful and varied appearance in images.. I realize that people dismiss him based on limited public knowledge.. I blame Ryan for leading the misinformation campaign,,, The public knowledge is a small fraction of what I have,, he is no outlier.

Not really. It was previously reported in the files that his UNSUB SKETCH was shown to witnesses... negative.. I have lots of pics that do not look at all like his sketch and witnesses that didn't like his composite sketch (just like Cooper),, even witnesses (for his hijacking) shown his actual picture who said definitely not him... For the set of images I have he looks like three completely different people... Sketches aren't made to eliminate people they are used to generate leads.. like the Cooper sketch A and B look like different people.. you don't use them to eliminate.

No, I found a major error that caused the FBI to eliminate him. Doesn't mean he was Cooper.. this jumping South stuff doesn't either.. FWW,, I am leaving for bit.... got serious things going on..

Occam's Razor supports my theory.. there are no facts that reject it. The other one has unresolved issues or claims that are illogical. This seems a lot more complicated than "get going south and jump as soon as I can see some sign of civilization." It's far fewer steps. I really wonder what Ockham would have thought about us using his idea in situations like this. Regardless, the actual usage of The Razor is when you have two equally likely hypotheses you should favor the one that has fewer steps. These aren't equally plausible hypotheses to me and if they were...we would not be choosing the one where he is on his second hijacking plan that involves going to another country and then decides to just jump immediately because...reasons. My theory is simpler,, he demanded to fly nonstop to Mexico, Reno was in play he jumped early,, pretty simple.. it reconciles two big issues,, The range being wrong and Cooper giving no path. Cooper gave no path,, It was not a planned LZ... He didn't give a path, but what he did ended up getting him headed south over a populated area and he seems to have jumped just as he was getting to population. It's simpler to assume that was his intent from the beginning. Cooper didn't give a path, the plane could have been anywhere when he jumped so it was ad hoc... they were still considering the coast right up to takeoff.. NO path means not targeted. He was not dressed for a PNW jump in those conditions, Landing in the dark/cold/wet and hiking out is not easy.. Cooper would be wet cold and dirty. South is much better for jumping. He's not dressed to jump out of a plane at all, but he does. Wearing something for a cold weather excursion like hiking would have put too much attention on him; same rationale for not bringing a parachute onboard. He does jump,, clearly jumping further south is better. The US/American currency qualifier suggests a "foreign" element. It could just as (or more) easily be explained by someone who has spent lots of time (a career in the military?) overseas and has those expressions in his general lexicon. You seam to have to be doing a lot of explaining for an easier option.. Cooper jumping south of the border is consistent with asking for US/American currency. Cooper was described as Latin/Mexican/Native American. By some! So were other very very very white criminals. Sadly this nation loves to skew miscreants in a rationalized direction... By almost all if you include swarthy.. Cooper initially demanded airstairs lowered inflight. Yeah this seems like one of those things that plagues us with the game of telephone we have to decipher decades later. Not true , it is a fact... Cooper's initial demand WAS airstairs lowered inflight,, it is clear in the files.. Cooper rejected large airports to refuel. This is just as easily explained by him making sure they head south over Portland. The phrase he uses to back them off is successful and suggests he is intent on being in the plane at that point. He wants them to wonder where the hell he is going to jump so he has to seem concerned. Again explaining something claimed to be simple.. you are making this up,, the route to SoCal is V23.. There is zero evidence he wanted to fly to Portland, in fact you wouldn't expect the plane with a bomb to fly over populated areas. He knew about refuelling and aviation,, he didn't get the range wrong. But he did get it wrong when he asked them to fly dirty. If his intent wasn't to fly dirty the whole time and knew he could make it farther because of it why on earth didn't he push back. I think he knew the 727s max range and had been on airplanes before but wasn't in a position to understand the actual impact of lowering flaps and gear on flight beyond the fact that those settings would be used when people were jumping out of a plane. Drag and fuel consumption is very basic stuff in aviation,, if he knew aviation even a little and refuelling procedures he would understand range limitations flying dirty. and why wasn't Cooper identified??? Why do criminals get away sometimes? This is a question much larger than this case. No, it isn't really,, this is the only unidentified hijacking... generalizing is a straw-man. The standard investigative methods failed.. something unique occurred in this case. They failed because the case itself is unique. All the following ones were solved quickly. This is luck and novelty, pure and simple. The FBI quickly developed methods to pinpoint where people jumped but they didn't have them yet. Cooper must have also been tight lipped about his plans. YES, it is unique,, now we are getting somewhere... luck and novelty is your subjective opinion but too limiting,,, Those played a role but you miss errors, misunderstandings and incompetence which have a greater impact.. I found a massive error that may have undermined the investigation.. Point is this is a unique case and something unique caused it to remian unsolved,,,

Two things,, I know why the FBI messed up with Hahneman... I just haven't disclosed it. But, Cooper is the only hijacker to not be identified,,, this is not a bank robbery. NORJAK is unique and something unique occurred for it to not be solved. IMO, the typical linear thinking in this case has failed... there is an error or something misunderstood in this case.

V23 was not a certainty...

It is very difficult to get inside somebody's head and understand why they do things,, people do things that are rational and irrational,, we can only speculate. This makes sense.. Cooper believed the plane could make it to Mexico to refuel when he made his initial demand,, he demanded no landing in the US. The crew told him they don't have the range.. and have to land in the US to refuel. But, Cooper believed the plane could make Mexico so he may have thought they were lying and setting him up when landing... Cooper didn't push back believing they were lying.. He refused the large airports offered,, then when they agreed on Reno, Cooper decided to jump early.. fearing a setup in Reno...