FLYJACK
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I assume he put the chute on over the raincoat but there is no mention of the raincoat in the files or by Tina.. I find it a bit odd that it isn't even mentioned. The witness not noting the raincoat is irrelevant.
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Found out from Rollins interview that this is the same incident,, one report is from the witness's father.. Rollin's talked to the witness and claims the man was dressed in all black.. (white shirt) FWW
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Oscillations were visual on the pressure gauge... The "bump" was felt... described as an extreme oscillation on the gauge. The bump is also an extreme gauge oscillation.. They are are simultaneous events. Rataczak, "I could feel the stairs coming down, we then felt a big bump in our ear.. So, when he jumped and left the airplane at that very moment I got on the radio to Air Traffic Control and I said quote I think our friend has just taken leave of us, mark it on your shrimp boats, that's what they call the radar screen"
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Chaucer is still confused but he refuses to participate here.. so he will remain so. He is still trying to bend the spoon, there is no spoon.. "they had not yet reached Portland proper, but were definitely in the suburbs or immediate vicinity thereof." Ratazcak was not referring to where he thought Cooper jumped, he thought Cooper jumped near the Lewis River, he was giving a time frame parameter which ends with his call to Solerlind.. Between the last comm at 8:05 and his call to Solerlind shortly after they thought Cooper jumped. 8:05 plus 10 minutes = 10:15 which is about Battleground and the suburbs of Portland.. plus you can probably see the lights from there. The "suburbs of Portland" refers to the call to Soderlind after Cooper had jumped and which he believes had the time recorded.
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Cooper was also last seen wearing a parachute,, the man seen was not wearing a parachute,, does that mean he wasn't Cooper. But, was he wearing a raincoat when he jumped, was the chute put over the raincoat.. I have never seen any evidence for this one way or the other. I don't know if the man seen was Cooper but not wearing a raincoat doesn't disqualify him.. Obviously, he could have removed the raincoat for some reason if he jumped wearing one. Maybe he was carrying it, the witness couldn't recall if the man was carrying anything.
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He would have jumped at 8:10.. landing just N of the Lewis River.. within the LZ timeframe. Sodlerind has 8:10, the FDR mark is 8:09, others are 8:11 to 8:13 but none are synchronized and some are delayed reporting. 8:09 - 8:15 is the range.. about the Lewis River to Battleground. It would be at the northern end of the LZ.. exactly where Rataczak thinks Cooper jumped.
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Though reversals can go beyond TBAR.. I looked at the reverse flow and rejected it for two reasons.. The movement is limited to maybe 3 miles in a tidal cycle. But, only the top layer is reversed by tides and winds, the lower layer continued to flow downstream.. since the money does not float (for very long) it would not be moved in the top layer. There were clamshell dredging operations at the mouth of the Lewis and mouth of the Columbia that subsequently moved material upstream but I couldn't find any specifics.. One big project was the Sauvie Island shore remediation across from and upstream of TBAR.. I can't confirm where that material came from.. and then you need to account for the diatoms. There is just no way figure out the TBAR money beyond theories unless somebody comes forward and admits something like they found some money in the woods and later threw it in the River because it couldn't be used..
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There is a coordinate in the FBI files that is interesting.. it doesn't say why. 7.2 miles from the man seen heading W at Fredrickson and Lewis River Road.
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It is a different witness but they both describe a similar incident. Would be nice to have the location of the second incident.
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This is interesting,, Bill Rollins posted a video about his suspect but he also tracked down a woman who saw a man walking West in black slacks and white dress-type shirt and he identified Lewis River Road and the cross street as Fredrickson Road. The man was approx. 6 ft, medium build, dark short hair and 30-40 yrs.. That street location had been redacted in the FBI file.. This location is right under the flightpath right at the 8:10 time. It is the northern end of Cooper's LZ just N of the Lewis River. The woman seems very credible... the description and location match Cooper.. Bill Rollins video..
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Chaucer doesn't just walk it back he runs it back.. To move the LZ south you have to discredit both Soderlind and Rataczak.. From Minneapolis Soderlind was listening to the radio, communicated with 305 and took time marked notes,, he used his first hand experience and notes to create an LZ,, the first one was much larger because they didn't know exactly where the plane was at a given time. The LZ was revised as flight data was acquired. This was from Soderlind. and in 1978 the FBI was looking for Soderlind's original notes.. Rataczak claimed he called Soderlind before the suburbs of Portland. This is not where Rataczak thought Cooper jumped but marks the latest time/location he called Soderlind.. Between 8:05, the last comm with Cooper and his call to Soderlind (10 min later, 8:15 is about Battleground).. Rataczak thought Cooper jumped near the Lewis River.
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Why would Carr be expected to know anything about this.. Carr and the FBI is still looking for the cigarette butts that the FBI destroyed within weeks of the hijacking. Ask Rataczak to clarify the shrimp boat statement he made in interviews. Either it is true or you have to believe he lied and made it all up.. good luck. Soderlind kept handwritten notes of his comms with 305 as I posted already,,, in 1978 the FBI wanted his originals.. BBC show Witness 2015 interview with Bill Rataczak... "and I could feel the stairs coming down we then felt a big bump in our ear" (that is inconvenient) "So, when he jumped and left the airplane at that very moment I got on the radio to air traffic control and I said" (ATC not Soderlind) "QUOTE, I think our friend has just taken leave of us, mark it on your shrimp boats" (radar screen) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-db-cooper-mystery/id1345477018?i=1000401601791
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My post here is part 65,, no idea what is on Shutter's site about Soderlind.
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That is problem and lure of the Cooper Vortex... I have gone through and tried to list all the info we have on Cooper for a profile and we actually have very few facts.. lots of inferences but few hard facts. You can question almost everything. It is like trying to solve a jigsaw puzzle with only 40% of the pieces for that puzzle, 30% are from a completely different puzzle and 30% is missing/unknown..
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It is there, but I got it from part 65 p. 121-122
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Yes, we will never know beyond a bunch of competing theories.. I have about four that are all viable within the parameters of the evidence.... there are probably some nobody has yet thought of.. Understanding how the money got into the River may help us understand what happened to Cooper or maybe not.. All we know for sure is that there was at least 3 packets of 100 bills separated from him.. The big mistake people make is to use the money find location to reject all the flightpath and LZ evidence.. The evidence.. The so called FBI flightpath is solid.. within the 1 mile plotting error.. The LZ between about Merwin and Battleground is solid. The money was given to Cooper in rubber banded bundles of several packets. At least three packets were separated from Cooper.
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No, the only issue I have is the money going through that suction dredge and ending up on the beach in that condition and order.. I don't see it.. remember the money went to Cooper in rubber banded bundles of several packets of 100's.. the FBI said it was it the same order and packing as it went to Cooper. If it went through that dredge it would have been more dispersed and destroyed.. So, IMO the packets of money most likely landed on TBAR as one single rubber banded bundle.. most people don't seem to agree but that is my interpretation of the evidence. As for the dredge spoils,, I believe there was more activity than the 1974 operation but I don't know how that would affect the money or the timing of the deposit. We have no certainty there.
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The 1960 image shows the money spot,, TBAR is there but it had more trees. There are two different issues,, Did the money get tossed up by a dredge,, I don't see the money going through a suction dredge and you have to account for the diatoms.. What was the layer Palmer identified as the 1974 dredge layer.. was he correct or was it an earlier later.. not sure, but from my reading 1974 wasn't the only dredge operation at TBAR and definitely not the only dredge operation in the area. Material was moved and dumped on the other side and even in the middle of the River, both upstream. The money found at depth was probably moved during the excavation process.. but, it is impossible to know for sure how the money got onto TBAR,, the question is how did it get into the River and where did it go after the hijacking. No, Cooper did not bury the money the night of the hijacking in the wet sand in the winter next to a River then return to retrieve it when it was 6 ft under water..
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TBAR money,, Found fragments of at least two other bills.. Palmer.. no evidence money was at 3 ft.. surmised it was deposited there by digging actions.
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Two cards were found SN 226, 1957 and SN 60-9707, 1960.. both packed by Cossey May 21,1971.. clearly both of Hayden's chutes. and the FBI claims they didn't have the serial, numbers. Cossey,, pilot chutes do not have numbers..
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McCoy did not have the same or identical tie/clip, it was recalled as "similar" by a witness.. less certainty than expressed by Calame and Rhodes.. McCoy photo strongly rejected by witnesses.
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Like most things in the Cooper case, nothing is certain,, the tide range is about 1.5 - 2.5 ft.. the water level looks very close in those images. It is clear the shoreline at the money find spot changed between 1971 and 1973, a dredge/beach replacement is most likely but not confirmed. There was also the '72 flood. Whatever it was, there was a change in the shore at the money spot between 71 and 73.. Here is a higher water level in 1970,, no undulations in the shoreline.
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I think I posted this image before but... The TBAR shoreline right at the money spot looks to have been replenished before the famous 1974 dredge operation and after Sept 71.. Remember, the 74 dredge operation shows South of the money spot, this is exactly at the money spot. September 1971 on the left and Jul 1973 on the right. See the two shoreline bumps on the right side image,, right at the money find spot.. That image suggests a potential dredge operation exactly at the money spot between September 1971 and July 1973.. I have not been able to find any records.. (The money spot is in line with the bottom of the triangle of trees, follow the bottom line right to the river)
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Here,, Soderlind in Minneapolis took notes while in contact with flight 305. He marked the times,, pressure bump and oscillation occurred at 22:10 Minneapolis time. He was in direct contact with the crew..
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Here is Ulis's Cooper case summed in 9 minutes of pure bunk... Warning, most of this is made up or does not fit the evidence..
