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$20 bills in 1971 would be more like $100's today... not checking $20's today is irrelevant. If bills got past the first point they would still circulate for many years potentially being discovered.. the fact that none were ever found suggests Cooper lost all the money, never passed it in the US or it was stashed. The money was in packets of 100's, evidence supports being strapped, those packets were rubber banded into bundles of random sizes.. so, 3, 4, 5 or ? packets to a rubber banded bundle. That is how it went to Cooper. The FBI said the TBAR money was in the same order and packaging as given to Cooper but they also said they were holding back that information in 1980. Time alone will make a rubber band go gooey.. so how long can a rubber stay gooey? If a rubber band goes gooey in less than a year but remains gooey for another 8 years that doesn't help us.. How gooey were the bands,, were they just essentially glued to the paper but not pliable. Hard to sort out with limited info.. Two things we can assume.. The money arrived when the rubber bands were good. The money arrived in a spring '72 to '79... That suggests the money arrived closer to '72 unless the rubber bands were replaced by somebody.. I have two competing theories,, one has the money arrive in April '72, the other in spring '78 or '79... No, the money was't planted, the TBAR spot was below the high water line and was underwater seasonally... if somebody wanted to plant money that would be the worst place, lots of better places to plant or bury money. The money was either intentionally discarded or unintentionally lost to the River.

My response was addressing the fact that the Ingrams said the rubber bands were brittle and broke apart when touched. If there were some gooey bits also then that means both brittle and gooey parts.. Reading up on this,,, a rubber bands natural state is gooey but exposure to oxygen or substances leach out ingredients which are introduced to keep them stretchy and firm. As they leach out the bands become gooey.. their natural state. The processes that can do this may vary depending on the specific chemistry of a rubber band... So, this is really tough to nail down.. it will simply be time and/or a specific environment can speed the process..

I am working on something big..

Yes, Tom is still on it, his equipment was broken.. I sent him a Penny's clip on tie from the same era and material, Dacron Polyester to test for particles from manufacturing.. some of the particles found on the tie are used in the production, dye process and for retardants..

The sequence from the files.. Cooper hands Flo an envelope with the note inside,, Miss, I have a bomb... MISS is printed, the rest is neatly written.. The envelope is plain white with no writing or markings. Flo writes Cooper's demands on the envelope. Flo takes the first note and envelope to the cockpit. Cooper asks for them back and Tina calls the cockpit. The note and the envelope are returned to Cooper. Effectively both notes.

Found it,, Flo wrote his demands on the envelope, then Cooper demanded the return of the first note and envelope which had his demands on it..

After watching Chaucer's smear video of Rataczak,, passionate wouldn't be first word that comes to mind..

Chaucer removed his insane youtube attack on Ratatczak after I posted it here.. Rataczak is probably the most solid and honest guy whose account never wavered. Chaucer needs to discredit Rataczak for his "theory" to work.. then he attacks me, the messenger from Shutter's site.. I don't think that is an appropriate use of that forum for a moderator.. I knew that forum would suffer with Chaucer as a moderator.. he is unhinged and actually threatened me here on this forum.

So, what is the take away.. We heard bands were brittle and broke and now gooey... I guess they could be both in different places. Band parts on the top near the hotter surface vs on the bottom of the bundle.. but does this suggest when the money arrived on TBAR.. an early Spring like '72 or a later Spring closer to '79.. Remember, there was fresher debris in the same layer and a can of a brand of Sarsaparilla that was first produced in 1974..

Good summary,, I agree. Edwards missed the statement that Rataczak had given a range to establish times, from last contact with Cooper to his call to Solderlind "in the suburbs of Portland".. That call was delayed from the jump time, so Cooper jumped well N of Portland. He also confirmed with Gryder that Cooper was gone before Portland. Good book overall, just some errors.. or false assumptions.. don't all books have errors. Cooper jumped between the Lewis R and about Battleground close to V23. Oscillations were the visual needle movement on the gauge, the bump was both felt and an extreme needle oscillation. The bump was also an oscillation on the gauge. Airstairs never locked down. Plane was hand flown.. Rataczak felt Cooper on the stairs. Cooper was Latin American in features and appearance. AND CAUCASIAN. The placard DID NOT come from inside 305 and it is a virtual certainty it did not come from the outside of 305 but came from one of the many passing jets in 7 years..

But, outside of the name and aviation there is no connection to anyone. Connecting the ICS matches to the school is ridiculous. Those were marketing/advertising material obtained where you buy cigarettes. A correspondence school doesn't send matchbooks to students in the mail. They could have been picked up anywhere. Nope,, total misfire Nicky on all three counts. First, that 1937 article is still too distant, obscure and a one off... a coincidence. Second, I have said I think the Dan Cooper comic is likely a coincidence AS WELL even though it was published in Mexico, I have never claimed it was related, just laid out the facts. I said it was a more likely connection than the french Canadian one. So, you misrepresent my motives. Further, you make a gross error like many others have made.. Latin Americans were of Spanish descent and they were called WHITE or Caucasian at the time.. that includes gov in documents.. Everybody falsely claims that Cooper can't be White/Caucasian and Latin American,, this is 100% false and I can prove it... Gregory even called Cooper Caucasian and Latin American... wait what.. IT IS NOT ONE OR THE OTHER.. GET IT.. and tell all your buddies they are wrong as well.. All of you can remain wrong on this, in fact I prefer it. It is a waste of energy to convince people of things I know to be true. Lastly, I have Cooper images that nobody else has.. end of story.

and it is gone...

I think it was Gregory.. not 100% certain.

Mucklow only saw Cooper standing briefly??

I was thinking at the top still in the sand not sitting on the top, though possible the top may have been exposed for some period of time. It looked like wood to Brian.. it was found just under the top.

Cooper handed Flo an envelope, she removed a note... He demanded and got the note back but what about the envelope... Tina saw the note fall on the floor.. Flo took the note and envelope to the Cockpit.. as well as the demands she wrote down. Flo took both notes to the hijacker after he demanded them.

Well, the money could have been elsewhere for some time or perhaps at the top of the sand layer which can get hot and dry in the summer. I know sandy beaches in the PNW can get too hot to walk barefoot on..

My understanding is that UV and oxygen make rubber bands melty..

This is Edwards blog, he has a few important things wrong but some good analysis. https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/2500530.Robert_H_Edwards/blog He and Chaucer are working together to move the FBI LZ.. reminds me of Ulis's Western Flight Path analysis that was nonsense. Chaucer made a ridiculous video trying to discredit Rataczak... using a misinterpretation in a news report. It is classic confirmation bias. He uses that insignificant point to claim Ratazcak is unreliable and therefore all his claims must be unreliable and Cooper actually jumped further South. It is quite a feat of mental gymnastics but all a bunch of hooey.. Apparently he is trying to get something published... what a joke. IMO, just let people get things wrong,, why help them and most won't listen anyway.

58 doesn't exclude a suspect but the further from the 45-50 sweet spot the probability drops off.. Mitchell thought he was forty.. Whiting: “Yes, I just wanted to ask you about a few specific points in the description. You know there have been so many different accounts that seem to have gotten mistranslated and re-reported. How old do you...did you think he was?” Bill Mitchell: “So, I was twenty and I want to say forty...” That is why it is called the Vortex...

Like the TBAR money, the inspiration for the alias Dan Cooper will never move beyond theories.. I have several theories, all possible, some better than others.

So, he was 58 for the hijacking... really pushing it.

Gregory is a very small part...

It is interesting, but I have to push back, the Cooper comic was not really for children.. It became very sophisticated, highly technical and advanced, even political. The author had many global connections in the military and aviation world. It was read by adults who were military aviators or fans... It was not a child's comic.. Cooper wasn't an aviator when that article was published... it was not for children. I agree that alias's are usually pulled from past experiences, but a single article 34 years prior is a real stretch,, there are many other better possibilities.

Maybe Gregory. That was the artist conception.. which was said to be poor.