FLYJACK

Members
  • Content

    5,477
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    32
  • Feedback

    0%

Everything posted by FLYJACK

  1. Cooper definitely planned a night jump, Sunset at 4:32 PM Portland.. Notice wind was light and SE at 7:00 PM (Portland Airport) but it was shifting around 8:00 PM to S and SW.. No precise wind data at 8:12.. Initially the "FBI" assumed a SW wind for Cooper's jump but it could have been between SE and SW.. they did revise the search area assuming a more Southerly wind.. Overcast, showers of light rain.
  2. What problem, there are a few things in that book that I don't agree with. Book is mostly a good resource though. This case is riddled with conflicting information and it can be hard to sort out.
  3. Not an exact time noted, but the sequence of events was noted by a range between 6:59 to 7:41.. It was likely 7:00 to 7:05,, during the fuelling at Seattle..
  4. NORJAK was NOT on autopilot.. weigh the evidence. The evidence for auto pilot is very weak, the evidence for manual flying is very strong. Remember, the plane was flying dirty, it is unlikely they would fly it in autopilot that dirty in a serious HJ situation. Here is the evidence for auto pilot.. FBI 302's are NOT conclusions they are investigative notes,, here the claim is the plane was on auto pilot for MOST of Washington.. somebody claimed it was autopilot. This is a summary notation, again claiming the plane was on auto pilot.. it may have come from the above claim. Now, the argument against auto pilot.. Rataczak said he was hand flying the plane and he felt the stairs go down. You have to completely discredit Ratazcak or have irrefutable evidence to contradict his claim. at 49.25 Bill Rataczak: “I did fly it and I found out that Jack Waddell was absolutely right when the stairs came down that flight that airplane lowered about 3 to 5 degrees and I was hand flying it at that time you don’t want to see my flight path because it looked like connect the dots, but we weren’t concerned about that because we knew we were in a safe altitude and air traffic control was watching" In the video/quote above Rataczak confirms the he felt the hijacker on the stairs by a 3 to 5 degree pitch. Waddell stated it would not be felt on auto pilot but it would be felt if manually flying the plane. Ratazcak did feel it, it was being manually flown. Here, Rataczak levelled off the plane and reduced speed.. that indicates manual flying the plane.
  5. Ouch, lots of misinformation and over reach,, I'll only address one item.. I did a deep dive on the ICS matchbook and posted about it here over a year ago, it was a marketing item which could have been picked up almost anywhere in the US and Canada where you buy cigarettes. There is no direct connection to the correspondence School. To claim Gossett or any suspect enrolled in that correspondence School because they had that matchbook is ridiculous. It was mass distribution of advertising material. Further, the empty matchbook Cooper took had notes written in it, that is why he took it not because it had some meaning to him.. and to put a fork in it, I think Gossett became a priest years later..
  6. Las Vegas,, the stews were interviewed a few days later in Minneapolis for Sketch A which was later deemed poor and redone.
  7. It was never determined.. there were no fragments remaining or locations determined by Tom.. There was the report of rubber band fragments attached that broke when touched.. and there was a report that one packet had no rubber bands.. So, if there were two rubber bands holding several packets in a single bundle there would be fragments on two of the packets.. Inconclusive..
  8. Yes, everyone believed the money arrived as three separate packets meaning it had to be placed/dropped or landed in a container.. the evidence indicates that individual packets were rubber banded together into bundles and the TBAR money was one single bundle of several packets, that opens up the means by which it could have arrived. The paper bank bands don't play a role here. but, if the individual packets had paper bank bands how does that change the TBAR dynamics. Paper bands deteriorate quickly when wet and would not survive out in the elements until spring '72.. This suggests the money was stored out of the elements until it was introduced into the River in a Spring and that the money arrived on TBAR very soon after going into river..
  9. McCoy's ransom money was also in bank straps.. hundreds had plane white straps, no markings, twenties blue and white straps, no markings..
  10. You can believe anything you want, if you think "bank type bands" means rubber bands that is up to you, if you reject all the other evidence that is up to you.. However, posting fake evidence is dishonest and misleading for forum readers. The Campbell interview doc quote you posted was doctored from the original, it has errors and was edited.. somebody typed up a doctored version for some reason.. Here is the original Campbell interview from the FBI files... the part you cite does not exist in the original it was added by somebody recently in an unofficial document. It is not clear if Tina took a single "packet" or a single "bundle" because the terms "small packages" and "package" was used. Elsewhere the FBI used the term package to refer to bundles, groups of packets. But package can describe both.
  11. Georger goes into a funk mode now and then and plays the histrionics and exaggeration game for attention,, perhaps out of frustration, a cry for help or an attempt at sarcasm.. Best to just ignore.. clearly nonsensical.. 100 straps is obviously not 22 lbs.
  12. I saw that vid,, sketch A was no good, so toss it, the vid images look too young and not particularly swarthy/latin,, the hair doesn't match the witnesses of curly, wavy, marceled..
  13. No, he has been consistent. Others have been trying to discredit Ratazcak but IMO have failed miserably. The only caveat is that the crew was instructed early on to only mention public info already revealed in the newspapers. So, they have generally revealed more over time as more case info has become public.
  14. Nobody said they were designed to fail in 6 months, you made it up. Not sure why you feel the need to do that. ABA and Federal Reserve straps are made from white kraft paper. One of the strongest papers when dry but weakens significantly when wet.. It can degrade in weeks depending on environment, 3 months is max outside and wet.. I have no idea what type of glue was used in 1971.
  15. Yes, Ratazcak said it was the best book (2011) the only one at the time that he thought got things right and he got final approval.. Himmelsbach book 2nd... That said, all books can have errors.
  16. Page 23 of Richard Tosaw's book has a discussion of Cooper offering Alice and Florence (the other two stews) one bundle of money each as they were departing the aircraft. Both declined to accept it.
  17. Here we go again, Georger playing histrionics,, nobody said they are designed to last 6 months. Paper bank bands are paper not the same material as currency,, paper disintegrates within 3 months outside and wet.. if they were stored in a dry environment like a bank they would last a long time.. probably longer than stretched rubber bands. I am not sure about the glue... would it release quickly when wet?
  18. I have long argued that because the money went to Cooper rubber banded in bundles of several packets that the money most likely landed on TBAR as one rubber banded bundle of several packets. Tina asked for money and Cooper handed it to her, she took it and then returned it.. she claims. she indicated "bank-type bands around each package" It was reported but unconfirmed that Cooper also offered Flo and Alice ransom money as they left the plane but no description of it..
  19. You have Tina, the bank guy in the FBI files, Himmelsbach and Tosaw corroborating bank bands.. could they all be wrong, it is possible but we need some solid evidence to challenge it. But, if they were paper bands on the packets, bundled into groups of packets with rubber bands how does that change the TBAR scenario? Paper bands would deteriorate in about 3 months in nature,, not long enough to reach spring '72. If the paper bands were wet, how long would the glue hold?
  20. One bundle says Pringle, FBI assistant special agent in charge of the Seattle office.. (of several packets) It was in same order and packaging as given to Cooper.
  21. The 302's are clear, bank bands,, Carr doesn't get that the rubber bands were used for the bundles..not the packets of 100. bank bands are paper bands 7:19 in video Himmelsbach.. Money was given to Cooper strapped in 100's and bundled with rubber bands.. A strap is bank lingo for 100 bills paper bank banded.. "There were ten thousand twenty dollar bills assembled in straps of a hundred bills to a strap and individual straps held together with rubber bands."
  22. Like many things in the Cooper case we never get to 100%... That is why it has lasted 50+ years.. Tina bank type bands..
  23. The FBI files are clear and that includes the pilot transcripts which are as accurate as you can get,, Cooper's initial demand was airstairs lowered in flight.. Ulis asked Ratazcak if Cooper changed his demand and Ratazcak said something like they had to convince him have stairs up on takeoff. So, Ulis rejects the evidence because he asked Rataczak the wrong question and got the wrong answer.. The other one is the plane on autopilot,, in the FBI files somebody told somebody that the plane was being flown on autopilot.. ok, but there are lots of errors and assumptions in the FBI files, they are not conclusions they are investigative notes. Ratazcak, the pilot, said he was hand flying the plane and joked that the path was crooked because he was hand flying it.. THE ACTUAL PILOT SAID HE WAS HAND FLYING THE PLANE. Further, the Boeing test engineer stated that on autopilot Cooper wouldn't be felt on the stairs.. Ratazcak said he felt Cooper on the stairs... The evidence supports the plane being hand flown by Ratazcak not on autopilot. People keep trying to change the facts to fit a preconceived narrative.. for McCoy's hijacking the crew saw the red airstair light (amber) and felt a change in pressure when McCoy exited, they went back and confirmed, he was gone.. Same as NORJAK... except the NORJAK crew was ordered not to check.
  24. Chaucer is incapable of sorting this out,, Carr will just repeat his error. Everybody including Carr kept saying the "bundles" were randomized... but the money was given to Cooper in 100's and rubber banded into groups.. the TBAR money was in 100's and in the same order.. the TBAR money was NOT randomized. So, it never made sense to me and when I questioned it I got trashed because nobody saw the logical conflict.. When Carr stated on DZ that the TBAR "bundles" were randomized into $500 or $1000 each I knew he mixed up bundles and packets of 100.. The bundles of several packets of 100 were randomized not the individual packets of 100.. So when Carr was told by the bank guy that the bundles were randomized and repackaged with rubber bands, he misunderstood and thought that the packets of 100 were.. Carr made other errors as well, he said the back chutes came from Hayden then he said he thought they came from Cossey's house and speculated that Cossey sent the chute instructions because of his modified chute... IMO, Carr is just not up to date with the case.. his case knowledge is circa 2012.