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um no,, The FBI has the full transcript and we have a slightly edited one. The few redactions are not NORJAK related they claim.. having the audio would be interesting and could confirm those redactions but won't solve the case.

I see a bigger issue bubbling up... What is a solve in this case now? The DNA is a dead end.. The tie left by Cooper might not have been worn by him when the particles were deposited. OR, a vaguely matched environment. Cooper is most certainly dead by now so no prosecution. The only way left to put a suspect on the plane is the finger/palm prints, a match is a defacto solve. However, that may be impossible, the prints might not be Cooper or Cooper may not have prints available to match. That leaves a circumstantial case, always a problem and can be dismissed with doubt. I am still holding out hope for the prints.. but that isn't a guarantee. Without that I can't see a 100% solve.

I was indifferent to the Cini connection... but always rejected the 12 day time frame argument against.. of course it is possible.. but when I found evidence that this was discussed in Vietnam well before Cini it confirmed that the idea was not exclusive to Cini and a rather obvious progression of thought..

Weren't all or almost all hijackers suffering from mental issues...

He is irrelevant. He wasn't Cooper. In many ways he was incompetent and lucky he wasn't killed.. Cooper was much more competent/experienced than Mac but less than Braden. To claim Cooper would do what Mac did is an irrational argument.

I know juggling knives is dangerous but have never done it. Mac is irrelevant. Breaking news,, He was NOT Cooper.. Objectively, a competent military guy with aviation and jump experience does not require more than 12 days.. Do you think Braden would need more than 12 days? I am not arguing Cooper did plan it in 12 days, I am arguing he could have. Cini was not the starting point. I have ruled it out. The argument to reject Cini as inspiration because 12 days is too short to plan is just bogus.. You don't need to have hijacked and jumped from a plane to figure that out.

I said objectively,, there is no reason for it to take more than the 12 days.. You have made up a nonsense argument to fit your opinion. The difference is you are claiming he couldn't plan it in 12 days.. I am saying there is nothing to show that he couldn't.

The primary goal of a suspect sketch is to generate leads... it is not specific enough alone to eliminate suspects. The FBI wanted to get better leads as they were wasting time on the poor leads generated by sketch A. That is why they did sketch B.

Mac had no aviation or parachuting experience,, A competent military guy with aviation and some parachute experience could pull it together.. Mac was not that guy.. using him as an argument is just bogus. It is even easier from a distance to reject it based on irrelevant arguments. I see no reason to believe it had to take more than 12 days to plan.. I also know for a fact that others had the idea before Cini..

Cooper had military and some jump experience, he could have planned it within days. Mac is not a good example. As for PTSD, there is nothing to show one way or another if Cooper had it.

Objectively, it could be planned within 12 days but there is no evidence for a connection.. and unlikely a copycat would pull it off so close in time and geography. I have evidence that it was being discussed in Vietnam in the late 60's.. I am sure others had the idea as well... before Cini. Combining parachuting with hijacking is a natural progression. The news was not as ubiquitous as today, some Cini articles didn't even mention a parachute others barely did. Later articles emphasized the parachute more. If a drunk Cini could figure it out... many could have.

Nope.

It is quite simple, Cini was not the only one to come up with the idea.. The idea existed well before Cini tried it.

There is no evidence whatsoever.. Cini's hijacking was a disaster.. The idea of a "ransom" parachute escape existed well before Cini. FACT. classic... POST HOC ERGO PROMPTER HOC

The 8:11 time has been overwhelmed by people moving the jump zone further south... Cooper jumped about 8:11. You gave it your best shot but the Western Flight path has not panned out, it is based on your own assumptions. The evidence supports the "FBI" accepted path.

Cooper was not a Cini copycat. Cooper did not land in the Columbia, he jumped about 8:11 within the half mile error along the so called "FBI" accepted flight path.

I heard about this Merwin salvage operation years ago,, they probably negotiated a reward if anything found vs being hired "per se"...

Are you serious.. I gotta stop posting here this is getting ridiculous. Not helping your point.. There is no erosion to the outer edge like TBAR aka rounded off. The argument is that the TBAR pattern is erosion in from the edges in situ. It looks nothing like TBAR... after 33 months. It suggests that the TBAR erosion was from tumbling and that the money was deposited closer to the money find,, aka much less than 33 months.. TBAR erosion pattern..

Tom's buried money test after 33 month's.. No outer erosion, nothing like TBAR. If the erosion was in situ then money was there closer to the hijacking,, but if the erosion was from tumbling the money arrived closer to the find as Palmer concluded.

I have told him that many times,, Georger will just move the goal post and claim he didn't actually pack the money.. Then there is Tina's comment.. "bank-type bands".. Georger claimed that Tina actually meant rubber bands and was contacted about it.. a lie. Then there is Himmelsbach's comment in the video... Georger's denial goes back many years.. best to just ignore him.

That is a different argument,, there is evidence of paper bands/straps. You argued no paper bands were found so they never existed. Obviously they would have disintegrated.

That is not accurate.. Tom does not reject the rolling along the River theory, he previously suggested it caused the fanning of the bills. He also believes the money could not have travelled far like 20 miles. I agree maybe 2-6 miles. Tom's position was that he intuitively believes the outer erosion was in situ.. Our discussion is ongoing.

I have only been saying that for at least 6 years,,, it is self evident. Paper straps would disintegrate ASAP. You constantly argued no paper straps were found so they didn't exist..

Wait to see if Tom updates his opinion... things have changed.. Tom did suggest as a theory that the money rolled along the bottom of the River. Palmer believed the outer erosion was from the rolling.. he also believed the money arrived closer to the find.. But there are two points here that keep getting conflated.. Did the money come from the river.. that is the best theory and not rejected by anybody. Was the outer erosion caused by the rolling along the bottom.. if so that would indicate the money went into the River and arrived closer to the find. This is a big deal if we can sort it out.

The entire 250k bank ransom stash was recorded on micro when it was created well before NORJAK.. It had 230k in $20's, 20k in 10's and the bills were recorded in physical order. So, the FBI would know if a packet was missing in between the 3 TBAR packets. The bundles were in bundles of 5 packets x100 bills,, no need to use a machine to count and no counting machine was used. They grabbed 20 bundles and left 5 but all were on the micro so the FBI had to remove 1500 bills from the list. Initially, the FBI was given 15 pairs of start stop numbers and told to eliminate those and bills in between. Those 3 bundles of 15 packets on the FBI micro list was immediately put into a new bank ransom stash. The curated FBI ransom bill list was 9998 bills, 2 short. The FBI was given the entire micro and told to eliminate 1500 20's that were not given to Cooper. They had difficulty doing this so the missing 2 bills is most likely from an FBI error creating the ransom bill list. Cooper likely got 10,000 bills. It is possible the FBI messed up the list and eliminated the wrong bills between the two start stop numbers.. The process to create FBI ransom bill list is not as reliable as people think. If they did randomize the 20 bundles of 5 packets it would take no time at all.. less than 5 minutes.