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??? In what universe does "running after you with a knife" = "words alone" ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

something like what? Mirage - read it again - you missed the joke and answered seriously oooooh - shiny ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

my wife makes bootie pants now - they are very popular with tandem instructors lately plus - you just can't say "bootie pants" without smiling ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

Or scaled to profitability maybe makes more sense. Trying to stimulate a new market may make a bit more sense than stimulating an incredibly profitable market? I don't think the margins in oil are incredibly profitable - just the volumes make it feasible. But I don't see any need to give them breaks that any other industry wouldn't get. And this specific industry, I believe government taxes make more money per gallon of oil than the companies do in profit. Stimulating a new market drives prices up and slows down the need to make the product truly affordable. Why invent a $500 solar panel when Billvon can buy a $5000 solar panel for $10,000 (using his $5000 and then getting an additional $5000 that the government stole from his neighbor for that purpose - thus jacking up the price past its value.) (FWIW - I'm a big fan of deleting all stimulants and all penalties from all the markets. Let the free market work. So I'm not a fan of stimulating either sector.) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I think Dem-i-cade would be better How about "ignorant people please sell me your votes"-Care ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

why does this even have to be about 'being prepared' if you pass the criteria and get legally licensed, your reason just doesn't matter "because I can" is just as valid as "I want to protect myself" is just as valid as "it has sentimental reasons" etc etc etc ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

something like what? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

scaled to the industry size of course, I'd suspect the solar companies are getting a much bigger proportionate share - scale it to actual output - I suspect it even more but I have no reference for that ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

you might rephrase that, it's a check on the LEGISlature from issuing laws that are unconstitutional Obama may think he writes laws (and continues to try to do that), but that's not his duty. No matter how much he wishes he was dictator, he's not. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

It would be a great way to thin out the hotheads from the population....... sticks and stones and all that. seems you should be able to protect yourself as necessary regardless, as long as you weren't escalating physically, only verbally however, I could see a lot more meat added to existing laws to address slander just to address this issue - then cowardly assholes that taunt would have to be responsible for their actions financially or with a bit of time too ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

People shouldn't answer this question - 100 people might have 100 answers from "they are professional bodyguards" to "they had to helplessly once watch a loved one killed" to "they just think guns are neat" - they are under zero obligation to justify themselves why is it any of your business why someone carries a piece of personal property? serious question (i don't carry, that's my choice. but at least I have a choice. I don't judge other's motivations, just their actions, trying to judge and control the mentality of others is a pretty silly way to live) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

that's subjective - Yes, it is, isn't it. And that seems to be a big part of the problem with the law. In legal terms, a subjective belief is the actual belief held by the individual in question. In the case we are talking about, the subjective belief would be what Zimmerman actually believed at the time. The reasonable belief is judged on an objective standard. What would a clear-thinking, rational person in Zimmerman's place believe? In order to assert "stand your ground," one's belief that one is in danger has to be reasonable. So here, Zimmerman's subjective belief doesn't matter. The question is, what would a rational person in his situation believe? You mention Zimmerman in this case. I thought the current tangent was trying to justify Travis' attack - i.e., the kid was justified in attacking based just on Zimmerman taunting him. That's why I asked upthread which of the two were being discussed in this tangent about sticks and stones. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

yup - and the result is good intentions absolutely retarding the progress of the artifically favored technology because the motivation to find cost effective solutions is removed and practical invention to allow the technology to come to market is delayed or even destroyed. You want to KILL a good idea? let the government decide to sponsor it. Of course, the orange drink "TANG" being the clear exception to the rule. Another corollary? Do you want to make education completely too expensive for the common man? Let the government pay for it in the attempt to 'make it affordable'. The injection of tax dollars will drive the price up until no one can afford it except the rich. Subsidies - killing off good markets since time began ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

Quotewhich contention is being proposed anyway? that Travis attacked Zimmerman based on verbal abuse alone? or that Zimmerman attacked Travis based on verbal abuse alone? I don't much care, but I'm just wondering the context of the posters relative to their displayed biases.... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

that's subjective - personally, I don't feel that way. Especially if we're talking about an immediate threat rather than implication of a future attack. They'd have to be very convincing to make me cross that line to defend with deadly force rather than restraint, or any action at all if nothing physical is initiated. If it's possible at all. Seems that anyone that's trying to instigate with verbal abuse will either give up, or take the next step and initiate physical gestures or confrontation. Then the line is more definitively crossed. Of course, the "sticks and stones" defense does allow any asshole to just verbally abuse anyone around them. But that doesn't warrant deadly force. Short of it - there's a plethora of people that talk big and threaten big. Rarely do they act. But responses should be calibrated on actions, not words. Edit: I have one exception you have stirring in my mind though. If the threats and talk are coming from a large group, and the only perceived way out of it is to attack first before they act, rather than wait until it's too late. But even then, there is still body language, positioning, and other physical cues in addition to the speech that can be assessed. (Once that's allowed, then the logic is easier to move towards your contention, but still it's hard to see it) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

This sentence seems to be out of balance - what kind of person "firmly believes" without evidence that's called faith . . . . AH HA!! (thus the foundation for religion and politics is again shown to be motivated by the same mindset) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

and those without brains can always run for public office ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

agreed, people need to use their brains "The parietal lobe is a part of the brain positioned above (superior to) the occipital lobe and behind (posterior to) the frontal lobe" ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

Would love to be able to get tunnel time but unfortunately we dont have a wind tunnel here in WA that I am aware of :( not to worry just get more jumps to get it right :) The one in Seattle is complete, I understand. and I hear it's a little pricey though ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

if that's all there is, then the solution is easy - take all the old retired teachers and put them in jail where they are forced to teach business classes to all the kids for free everyone wins sometimes the simplist solution is the most elegant ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I'm pretty certain that the affect of either object would depend upon the presentation, and the kid. Lends some context to "Is that a gun in your pocket, or are you happy to see me?" those are not mutually exclusive items ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I think the government should pass a law REQUIRING everyone to do this. Of course, a few committees would have to be formed, and we'll need a new tax to pay for this free social experiment. Has anyone even THOUGHT about the clear and obvious affect on the environment and race relations? Seriously 2+2=4 won't someone PLEASE think of the children ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I'm pretty certain that the affect of either object would depend upon the presentation, and the kid. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

that's an interesting position, considering that the original certificate holder may very well have facilitated a real purchase by transferring that gift certificate As for disallowing it..... the plus - you get that free advertising by getting your name out there during the drawing the minus -it seems the policy might limit your ability to get another physical rig out there for people to see or admire by limiting the use of the certificate to just the original winner I think this is a cost effective policy. You reduce the actual number of occurrences that the company has to redeem the coupons but still get the word out by being part of public drawings. This is very common technique - and smart - and everyone does it. I don't think your stated reason makes any sense though. It's well known that giving out certificates instead of physical prizes is a great way to get cheap advertising. For minor items, people rarely cash in certificates, especially for low value items. I suspect that if a company gives out 3 certificates for a free t-shirt instead of 3 t-shirts (for example) then the company will likely only have to provide a single t-shirt, if any, once the dust settles. But stand on stage and throw out 3 t-shirts to the crowd? Well, it costs you 3 t-shirts, but then they are likely going to be worn that night and during the boogie immediately. it's a real tradeoff ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

Actually, 84% is close enough for Kevin's statement to be fine for an off the cuff statement. Don't you think? But this statement just means one thing - murderers tend to hang out with people of the same color. Murderers are more likely to be racist. Seems to make sense, murderers are also more likely to be ignorant assholes. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants