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If anyone is interested in talking about the flight path, I'm all ears? beats the hell out of bitching at one another? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

he is nobody.........one post she will state the man in the photo didn't want to see Duane, another post she says Duane didn't want the man to see him???? "he sure did NOt want Weber to see him." how would she no this without talking to him? "Duane left the area so this man could not see him." who really cares? Its a classic example of Jo building a straw man, literally searching for some hook. And she has been at this with this photograph for years. Not unlike Blevins and what he put everyone through with his "Kenny through the door" photo. In Jo's case is began with a simple inquiry: "who is this guy!" ... she didn't explain much. Then comes back later with several full blown stories concerning the man in the photo and Duane! It's like some people's story of Jo surfacing years ago with a first version of Duane vs. Cooper, allegedly saying: "Duane knew who Cooper was", or "might have known who Cooper was" ... not that Duane was Cooper. All straw men (a weak or imaginary opposition as an argument or adversarial set of false facts set up as a gimmick for the purpose of easy bogus refutation to further some other issue at hand) ... always not true. The users of such arguments assume no rebuttal is possible. Yep, and if the body of Cooper is found, I'm sure Duane will become the "Ground Man" prison records, fire training all go out the window..... If he knew who Cooper was, well, his confession goes out the window tooooooooooo "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

he is nobody.........one post she will state the man in the photo didn't want to see Duane, another post she says Duane didn't want the man to see him???? "he sure did NOt want Weber to see him." how would she no this without talking to him? "Duane left the area so this man could not see him." who really cares? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"what if Tina really did see a watch and it was just a little different. The watch puzzles me." From the FBI........ Mucklow "W/M, mid 40's, 5-10" 6', 180 to 190, med to dark complexion, medium build, dark straight hair with narrow sideburns to mid ear parted and combed back, dark plastic wrap-around sunglasses, dark top coat, dark brown suit possibly with a thin black stripe, brown socks, brown ankle length pebble grain shoes, not the tie type, he had a low voice with no accent, she did not see scars, marks or tattoos, the man did not have on any jewerly she could see." Schaffner "W/M, mid 40's, 6', 170-175, average build, brown eyes, straight black hair medium length and parted on the left side, olive skin, black business suit, white shirt, thin black tie, black overcoat, black shoes, black briefcase, dark framed sunglasses with brown lenses, no scars marks or tattoos, he had a normal calm voice and appeared to be of Latin descent." "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Beep, Beep, Beep goes the backing up noise........ "I don't deal with you as you have an agenda" same goes for you, the agenda you have is to misinform and foul up any conversation not directed at you! "Ya, I'm shakin' in my boots. Make some more threats why don't you. We'll get you off the Forum. " where are my threats Bob, you sound like Jo....... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

my cop friend asked about you a month or two ago, I told him you were scared......seems you a Jo are stuck here for eternity "I don't deal with you as you have an agenda, not an open mind. I know a number of very well known cops. None want to be famous for exposing Project Norjak. Ask O'Hara." Oh but you said you would only talk to LE or a States attorney....remember "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

here is the deal Bobby, I have a friend who has been a cop for over 30 years, he can be seen it the first couple episodes of cops. what do you say we have a little chat with him and the states attorney? remember this is who you will only talk too? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

That is consistent with Cooper. Is that below a book 727 stall speed of 175? Fuzzy now, but I was told the actual jump speed was around 150 and that it was slower than they had planned. A surprise, so to speak. Right? wrong........just like the rest of your story! you can't be fuzzy, you have super memory....remember? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Bob, do us a favor and go back into the witness protection program you were spewing out years ago! you have no proof of anything....period! no trailer full of notes, no draft notice for a 25 year old etc. etc. how about documenting your story? not what is written by Nixon? proof McCoy is alive, proof Bill Rat knew about the project, proof OHara didn't shoot McCoy. I'm sure the response will be childish...can't wait for the truth LMAO I really think it's time to contact a States attorney....don't you? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I found the answer to the speed of the plane in the movie The Pursuit Of DB Cooper. Ckret talked with one of the jumpers.... "I got a call yesterday from one of the guys who did the jumps from the 727 for the movie "Pursuit of DB Cooper" said they jumped at 150 knots and that was as fast as they would go. I don't know if the studio capped the speed or they did, but my impression from talking to him was 150 knots was as much as any of them wanted to jump at. " "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Jo and Blevins need to get their eyes checked. The individual in the picture does NOT have on a USAF uniform and it is not "Jack Ruby/Booby". And neither KC or Duane Weber had anything to do with the Alcatraz escape, the Lindbergh kidnapping, or the Lost Dutchman gold mine. Robert99 I thinks it's very possible the man in the picture was Lee Harvey Oswald, there was a reunion that year. also in attendance were the Anglin brothers and living family of Jack the ripper. these guys like to keep in touch because we can't...... to my surprise Frank Morris has been missing from each event every year? we hope for his return this year. much like the WW2 vets, these guys are disappearing at alarming rates. when you close your eyes and look really hard, this all makes perfect sense If you or a friend have knowledge of a person that has been known to have been dead for years that is currently walking around please call 1-800- (cuckoo) operators are standing by....... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

where did you get the number of 1800 air marshals in the early 70's? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

as I tell all the others, I'm not saying you are lying Robert. all suspects are just that, suspects, until Cooper is found. I'm not saying you didn't look into it properly, I just don't think it adds up. Thanks for changing the header....seems you always do that to me. The general public can be easily fooled. I use to be into the paranormal a lot validating video's. most people were shocked once they found that software could do the things shown in many videos. they read a wiki article and become experts on anything they have read. my parents know about DB Cooper, but other than him jumping out of a plane, they know zip about it. my dad said 5 or 6 months ago...I thought they found out who DB Cooper was" referring to the Marla story. IMO the public will take parachute training and conclude it had to be that person, no question about it? someone has went to every Cooper video on You Tube and stated that since the money was never found in circulation he must be dead. they go on to say the money is returned to the mint where it it checked before it's destroyed, every single bill. every bank checked the numbers around the world etc. etc. well, this is a fraction of the open minded public!!! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

doesn't mater if his name is on it.....MINE is and it had nothing to do with me. KC was not Cooper, I'm 99% sure. I never say 100% on anything. I don't think you are telling the truth by saying he might not be or you wouldn't be going thru all of these hoops! fool the uneducated all you want...but it hasn't worked here in years, but you keep tossing it in here all the time.... you get so many things mixed up or wrong and then turn around and say Georger has no credibility? then you get upset when someone doesn't want to read the PDF, news flash, we know whats in it! I think it's called "old news" just like the rest of the high profile Cooper suspects......a dead end! The public is open minded? they are the ones who don't know all the facts about the case, Marla used that weapon well! you are doing the same..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

15-20 emails a week......Hmmmm, seems they are buying into your story just like the Marla Cooper story..... why all of the media outlets? The FBI not listening? learn how to direct your posting.....what is this the 10-15th time telling you???? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

_______________________________________________ I didn't day I bought BK's story, hook, line, and sinker. I said his story isn't any more far-fetched than some of the other stories or theories I've heard. Example: If KC is DBC, I'm the pope. MeyerLouie Fair enough, you had me scared for a moment "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

so, you can believe that this whole thing is a Government cover up all the way to the Pentagon, to the Pilots union. Bill Rataczak was aware of the operation, Himmelsbach was aware of this? McCoy is still alive? If you believe this story, where is the logic in giving Blevins a hard time? keep in mind that Nixon ran in 68, was in office in 69. Bob claims he started this in 68? he had no power...... In office January 20, 1969 – August 9, 1974 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

this might be where he got his little idea..... http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1873&dat=19720310&id=83w0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=udEEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1644,2623515 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

you are all talk and nooooooooo action. BS, BS, BS........ you have a capital L stamped on your forehead, you are a complete joke!!! Nixon told me that one......... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

nether one of you provide anything but words and garble, nice touch on taking a False Flag and twisting it into an imaginary white flag. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"maybe there'll be an autopsy " It is SOP for an autopsy to be performed on victims in a murder case. they need to determaine the official cause of death, even though it's obvious by just seeing the body. based on them searching around the house they way they did, I'm guessing they have not found the weapon used. that is about the farthest I will go with speculation. I'll wait for more news updates. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Hey...hold your horses there cowboy. Do you think that I am the ONLY one in the Puget Sound area who wants Cossey's killer brought to justice? That man never did anything to anyone, and judging from the many nice posts put up by his former students, he was well-liked. I never even met the guy myself, and even I am pissed off that he ended up like that. I didn't say anything about a conspiracy, and this has ZIP to do with Christiansen. I merely voiced my frustration that so far they haven't ID'd a suspect. And you can bet that Cossey's family and friends are thinking the same thing. On Georger's post up there: Ignored. Asked and answered. That's all you get from me on it. Not everything in my life has to do with Cooper, or will be made public. And I'm not publishing any articles on Cossey. Now or later. Make sure you go back and delete your comment now. (*laughs*) If you had a legitimate question that didn't read like something from Lewis Carroll, then maybe I would provide an answer. I don't respond well to non-mannered questions, whether you like it or not. not every case ends up like the television show 48 hours. let them do there job! I know lots of people want answers, but the media and police are not going to give updates like being on this thread. my horses are safe and sound in the corral.....but thanks for asking "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Cooper asked that the NWA people in Seattle send out some food for the crew. I believe they sent out six meals (or sandwiches) for the five people on board the aircraft. Cooper did not ask for or get one of those meals. The food Cooper took from the rear of the aircraft was things like soft drinks and snack foods such as peanuts which were routinely carried for kids on the flights. There was no meal service on the flight between Portland and Seattle (mid-afternoon and only about 40 minutes flying time total). I believe the military has/had a survival manual that on how to use a parachute canopy for shelter. One canopy would be sufficient for Cooper. Perhaps Amazon can elaborate on the above. Robert99 Hope you don't mind if I toss my two cents into this one. The canopy-for-survival thing was done in somewhat the same area by Marine pilot Lt. Floyd Walling right around Christmas 1945. As you may have seen in the old PI article, he used the canopy to stay warm, a lighter to start a fire, and ended up walking out to the little town of Yale and was rescued there. He left the canopy behind, and there is no record of anyone ever retrieving it. FYI: Walling's chute is not in the same area as the Amboy chute. Because of the roads, Merwin Dam, etc. it's nearly certain Walling jumped north of the Merwin Lake dam, not south of it. If he had jumped south of the dam, any route to Yale would have entailed crossing two paved roads and a big ass lake. So, probably north of the lake. EDIT: I just spoke to Sergeant Cindi West on the phone. No new updates. She says the investigation is ongoing (sounds like she's answered a BUNCH of calls about Cossey, but she was nice) IMPORTANT: West said that she will Twitter ANYTHING new about the Cossey case immediately via her Twitter account, even before she calls the media. So if you have Twitter, you should go to your account and enter the following in the search box, and then put her on your Twitter follow list: @kingcosoPIO where did you get your information of the location of the Amboy chute????? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"They combed the house and nearby woods. Took a million pictures. A reward was posted by Crimestoppers. Now where's a suspect? No prints to match with the NCIC records? No witnesses? Physical evidence? Any leads to be released publicly? Even the local media has been silent about it lately." didn't you send the FBI all kinds of information about KC? is it our turn to say, hey why is the FBI so "silent" about KC??????? for someone who doesn't believe in conspiracy theories you sure are creating one with this statement..... these things take time, it's not in law enforcement's best interest to post daily updates about a murder case. you need to understand this is not a high profile case. it's no longer the top story of the evening news! with the statement above are we to assume now that it's simple to find out who killed someone with some prints and the powerful NCIC? perhaps like the FBI, you need to step in and resolve this matter? (*roll eyes*) "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Now, if you were really interested in the bag, I can probably get you to the guy who actually owned it. It belonged to the guy who photocopied and banded the money. It was the only thing he had available at the time that met the requirements. His comment was that everyone had to do something, and that was his contribution. This was told to me by a mutual NW pilot friend. It also is the truth. It can be verified. Of course, you are not really interested in what really happened, only fabricating some parallel story to cover the conspiracy the Government executed on John Q. Public. Bob, for the millionth time, you are the one fabricating. this is a place to show actual evidence, words don't count, period, go back to the end of the line.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI