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Everything posted by jaybird18c
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Not only is it not your uterus, it's also not your baby...but it's still dead....unnecessarily.
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She saved the mother. Otherwise, they both would have died.
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So, are you ok with child pornography? . What I am NOT OK with is your busybodying interest in the reproductive organs of other men's wives and partners. That is a chicken shit answer. If that is how you wish to describe your busybodying behavior, so be it. Is that your "I know you are but what am I" response. How old are you?
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So, in your opinion, it is universally "wrong?" ...aside from the fact that it does occur? Added: Gotta step out for a while..be back later.
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So, are you ok with child pornography? . What I am NOT OK with is your busybodying interest in the reproductive organs of other men's wives and partners. That is a chicken shit answer.
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My wife's decisions with regard to the examples I provided are medical, not religious. So, if your wife developed a condition which greatly threatened her life during pregnancy, would you be ok with the decision to save her life at the cost of losing the pregnancy?
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Is it ok, in your opinion, for them?
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So, are you ok with child pornography?
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Why? If it doesn't hurt anyone (e.g. some cultures where it might be accepted) and everyone involved is ok with it. Would you still say (like me) that it's "evil?"
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Are you married? If so, do you have children?
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Ok...your exception aside...?
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You could take it to the extreme and there are examples where "not" providing care would be more humane, however, that's not what I'm talking about. Old people requre more care and are very expensive. Would you be ok with eliminating the ones who are "too much trouble." Or...are they people just like you and me and their lives are as precious as that newborn...and if so...what about that 38 weeker...or that 24 weeker (prior to delivery)?
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Are you ok with child pornography? (I am not to be clear)
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Completely beside the point Billvon and you know it. It's simply none of your business. Stop being a busybody. Is it anyone's business if we, as a community, decide to "off" your grandmother because she's totatally dependent now on someone else (you maybe) or is costing all of us way too much money? Is her life worth more than that? She may have already passed away (like mine)...however, work with me here. If her life is/was, why?
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Depends on your perspective...naturalistic/"NDT" evolutionary worldview or creationist worldview. You should be ok with abortion at any time and for any reason from your perspective. Matter of fact, you should be ok with elliminating your (or the communities) competition at any age...since we're all ultimately just animals (squirrels tryin to get a nut, if you will). You're right...abortions occur naturally...and in great numbers. There is a biblical explanation for that. However, it is interesting that you're appealing to the idea of evil or moral absolutes. Let me ask you a question that may seem off topic. Would you consider pornography wrong...or evil, Billvon?
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Completely beside the point Billvon and you know it.
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Terminated the pregnancy? Does that mean that your wife has killed babies? Yes. She has had to make the decision to save one life over the other. Either that, or the mother would have died. Then, there would have been two deaths instead of only one. However, I am only talking about prior to viability. Reasons can include rejection, premature natural delivery without being able to adequately stop it, water breaking prematurely, baby dying for whatever reason in the uterus causing infection, etc. I'm not a Physician but there are indications for such measures...all of which are medical in nature and not of convenience. Added: uncontrolled gestational diabetes, hypertension leading to eclampsia (seizure activity, protein in urine, possible death of mother), etc. Added also: And each of those rare times haunts her every day...brings her to tears...regardless of when it occurred. Again, it's rare...but it does happen...and the physician has got to make the hard choices sometimes.
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Ok. So where are the "unborn violent felons" deserving of being put to death?
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Not sorted out. Just legalized murder. Just because something is legal does not make it moral...necessarily.
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Every OB/GYN Physician you'll speak to learned in Med School that when dealing with a pregnant patient, there are really two patients you're taking care of. What about the baby and it's choice?
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Prior to 24 weeks, the lungs aren't fully developed, and the baby will most likely die. Removal would kill the baby. The same as if, after delivery, you just leave the baby exposed, unfed, unprotected...it will also die on its own. It relies on the mother for survival in both cases.
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My wife has had to order and perform procedures which terminated the pregnancey for life of the mother issues. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the majority of reasons which are mostly for reasons of convenience.
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That reasoning includes late term abortion. So it doesn't become a baby worth saving until it clears the birth canal or when it's delivered by c-section? Really?
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That is exactly what I am doing! I don't deny that.
