nigel99
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It’s the biggest flaw of the Democrats. They pussy foot around while high power republicans rub it in their faces. Have some backbone and say “Sure, we will treat illegal immigration an as issue, we will start with the ones who have openly admitted it and make an example of them” Send Elon to Guantanamo for all I care. Then let Trump and the MAGA leadership expose their duplicity and make exceptions. Although I suspect Trump would be glad to see the back of Musk around now and would leave him out to dry.
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It shows the state of the US that this is necessary. With an independent judiciary it wouldn’t be necessary, but Trump proved it is not independent. Mike Johnson standing on the steps of the court house proved it was not independent. Joe Biden stood back and did not comment or interfere until the very end, not with Hunter and not with Trump. I still feel that Biden should pardon Trump. I want the stain on his legacy that he was a criminal that had to be pardoned and to remove all the opportunity for his corrupt cronies to drop the charges and declare him innocent. The other thing the ‘immune’ president should do before January is step up to the plate with illegal immigrants and strip Elon and Melania of US citizenship and send them packing.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2v48003l8o The Brits have come up with a pretty amazing solution. These diamond batteries are the size of a coin cell and last 5000 years. It also recycles nuclear waste which is pretty cool. Screw Elon I’m waiting for my nuclear powered Aston Martin
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Revolution is nasty and messy. I suspect with corrupt billionaires in power in the US, this is going to become as common as school shootings if not more so. Sooner or later people rise up against exploitation and abuse. Let’s face it, for a vast number of Americans it goes to the heart of the second amendment. (Somehow the right to bear arms and the murder of a health insurance ceo should be a joke)
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Did you see the news recently about Cooper? Mainstream news had an article about the rig being found and handed over to FBI
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Definitely cult like. Also the US is now well and truly established as a corrupt nation. It’s going to be interesting to see the EU response over time as they generally have quite high standards on dealing with corruption.
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Washington? Not Florida, Moscow and wherever Elon lives?
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I’ve enjoyed having a number of the more right leaning people back posting (and some new ones). The world is full of echo chambers and people hiding in their safe spaces unwilling to have their opinions challenged. It takes guts to stand up for your beliefs when you’re outnumbered.
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Trump is the ultimate grifter, he took people’s anger at the system and manipulated them. I’ll be honest, I am no longer certain MAGA is a cult, although it’s still high my the list as a possibility. People feel powerless against politicians who have become a law to themselves and there is a vacuum of alternatives. I’ve recently been following Tony Blair and quite like his perspective on how politics is broken and what he learned as PM. There’s a level of insanity in supporting a dictator wannabe and bunch of crooks as an alternative though. Australia is racing to catch up to the US. For the first time I have decided to take an active role in opposing the mainstream parties. We have a small party run by a GP. He’s very logical and challenges decisions constantly. I’ve begun talking to the head of the party as he’s very approachable.
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You better buy your MAGA hat and bible now!
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With the knowledge we are losing SC I looked into low cost/free ways that the banter could continue. I’ve setup a subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/BeyondDropzone/s/EVhnSJsPC6 I don’t want to have to moderate a public forum so I set it up as invite only. Although all speakers corner posters and lurkers are welcome. You can request to join by emailing the moderators. Alternatively I’ve setup a reddit username dznigel99 and you can message me and happy to add you.
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https://youtube.com/shorts/NHSGR8xGTz0?si=IHcEi3yWue184XKS Saw this and thought it was great. Get your brown job
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I’d like to stay in touch Keith. Was probably about 15 years ago that we met -
Not telegram, but I’m setting up a private sub reddit to hopefully keep the banter going. Over the past 20+ years I’ve been active in this site I’ve learned skydiving lessons, made great friends and changed my views on life. The mods have done a great job over the years in keeping it relatively civil and so we have a spectrum of views and it’s not a pure echo chamber.
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Ron still posts occasionally, so does Bigun. I think (Reese?) New Zealander was banned years ago. You’re wrong by the way - we no longer debate guns and religion here! It’s no all about being woke. -
Well maybe Mexico will pay for the wall now .. To keep the illegal immigrants from moving south.
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That’s what I read. Essentially this was treated differently than ‘normal’.
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I’m glad Joe stepped in for Hunter. Although I think it acknowledges that the US judicial system is politicised. There becomes a time when you have to adapt to the new rules to survive. With MAGA it’s the law of the jungle.
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It still doesn’t change the fact that you’re unable to defend the indefensible. There is no legitimate reason to support a racist and extremist rally. Trump hosted one of the leaders of the supposed groups that he condemned and said he was ‘very impressed by him’. He surrounds himself with racist pricks, and his little fanboy Elon is no doubt eager to recreate apartheid South Africa.
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Made me laugh though
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When you have to split hairs further and further until you get to the atomic level to justify a comment you have a problem. That doesn’t even touch on the fact that Trump invited one of the leaders of the groups that he allegedly renounced to a dinner. Then said he was very impressed by him. I’ve got more respect for the nazis and racists that have the backbone to stand behind their beliefs than I do for Trump and the apologists who share their views but don’t have the backbone to take the heat of standing by their convictions.
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Trump excluded those groups from his narrow definition. Considering it was a far right event, there doesn’t appear to be any logical and justified reason to be present and showing support for the cause. Reframing the question, what valid reason or cause would a ‘very fine person’ have to support the cause of the organisers?
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I simply asked for an example of someone who wouldn’t fall under that banner. Snopes has the extremely narrow definition that you’re adopting. The same article points out the fact that the false statement is that Trump called all of them very fine people. So do you agree with Trump that the KKK and militia groups have very fine people as they are differentiated from the 2 very specific groups he called out? Also Trump had dinner with one of the leaders after the event in 2022 ““Trump is really impressed with Nick Fuentes,” Ye said in the video.” Not a very strong condemnation.
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Ok, so who at the event on the side of the neo nazis doesn’t fall under that umbrella term and why were they there? I believe Trumps father had known links to the KKK. So let’s take Trump at his explicit word. Do you agree with him that the KKK has very fine people? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally Based on these groups who were at the rally can you suggest an example of a legitimate “fine person’ who would be there?
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Isn’t it a bit disingenuous to use the argument “It wasn’t an exact quote” regarding the laptop, but then argue against the message from Trump regarding “very fine people” as he didn’t specifically mention the white nationalists? I’ve always been a little uncomfortable with how Trumps business crimes have been portrayed. It may be normal process in the US that federal convictions are counted per transgression. But calling him a 34 times convicted felon seems inflammatory. It was one crime, with 34 individual documents. If this was applied to all of his cases then the classified documents should be 100’s of felonies? Don’t mistake this for me condoning his behaviour, he should have been prosecuted just as harshly and quickly as Edward Snowden and others.
