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I've picked up one or two new phrases that I like. But reading another webpage I just found this snippet that it brilliant. I love it Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Absolute statements like that are pretty much always wrong. didn't say ALL Europeans, now, did I? The people from UK with here in the US have a VERY low opinion of US muscle cars (all the HP goes into the sound/noise) corner like shit, etc, etc. I am not a car person so my eyes glaze over when the topic starts but anyway. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

0:6:2 6 good jumps, got my A signed off and did a 4 way (thanks to Raud, Nicole and Alexi). Possibly more beer owed - as it was a good w/end. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Were you at the boogie?? Just left. Had a good time and I am now a licensed jumper. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

A skydiving one from Hans when he told me off yesterday "Don't play RW with the trees" Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Well at least all the bacteria have a nice constant temperature to keep them happy and breeding Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

My wife hates them, I quite like them. She has a habit of turning lights on when she goes into a room and off when she leaves so the warm up drives her nuts. Our voltage is quite close to the maximum legal tolerance, this means that incandescent bulbs typically last less than 3 months for us. I replaced the bulbs in the kitchen with the energy savers in Dec 09 and they are still going strong. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

that reminds me of another one "couldn't organise a pissup in a brewery" Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Can you provide an example of it's use? Does that mean quick? Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Unfortunately you attempt to regulate it through the use of generic benchmarks and licenses that are required. Hopefully regulation suppresses the stupidity until such a time that experience takes over. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

What catchy phrases do you know and use? My favourites are: "Up and down like a whores drawers" "The size of a gnats cock" "Attention span of a lightning bolt" "Sticks like shit to a blanket" Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

meh - on an 'anonymous' website, there's always those that talk bigger than they really have the stomach for. I take those posts as just them expressing how upset they were about 9/11 combined with a refusal to communicate in anything much farther than grunts and barks. Or, they are typing in front of women and want to impress them with how monkey like and manly they are. It all comes down to women in the end. Never thought I would agree with you in a SC post

I agree entirely and it is the primary reason that skydivers need to take responsibility. There are so very few threads like this where people have got "talked to" and listened. The OP really deserves credit for taking the advice to heart and having the balls to post about it as well. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

the stupid ones who think torture is ok by the state are the ones i worry about... I am bothered by those who believe it is OK for America to be the victim and not retaliate. The problem is that when a country acts unilaterally, on being the perceived victim with complete disregard to international laws and treaties it becomes a rogue state. America (and us in the UK) are slowly lowering their standards to be just like "them". Idealistically I have no problem with war and protecting national interests. I do have a problem with hypocrisy though. We have decided that if we don't like someone we will attack them, even if it means supporting terrorists in the process (Libya is the current example). Frankly George Bush placed himself alongside Bin Laden when "God" told him to attack Iraq, both men are driven by religious beliefs. However on the subject of torture I am very surprised by your position. Please just remember that the next time Christian missionaries are captured in the middle east and tortured to extract confessions of being spies, not to have double standards. They are religious fundamentalists (the missionaries) and pose a threat to the status quo of those countries. The odds are quite high that western security services are using NGO's, or diplomatic cover to spy on those nations, so they are justified in their actions. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

No a club doesn't, but in most parts of the western world there are quite strict laws on how business cater for the safety of their clients - rather than the pleasure of their clients. The laws are generally there to temper the desire to make money at all costs. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

I am never sure if it is a good or a bad thing that a modern dz is a business not a club. When I was a member of a skydiving club, it would have been difficult to be refused access as a paid up member. As a business the dz should be putting the safety of its customers first. This means that duty of care should restrict people, far more than in the club days. I am beginning to suspect that it is going to take a successful prosecution from a national health and safety body, or a court case for skydiving operations to move completely from club to business. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Pretty sure that misunderstanding was the intent of the manufacturer. I agree: it was deliberately deceptive, phrased to give it "plausible deniability" if challenged. Very unethical, IMO. By way of illustration/example: There's a standard in certain US law called the "Least sophisticated consumer" standard. (It's what has, for example, resulted in loan or consumer credit contracts being worded in more "plain language" in recent years.) Basically, it means that if a hypothetical "least sophisticated consumer" would tend to not understand - or misunderstand - certain language in a document, then that language is presumed to give inadequate disclosure, and sometimes even be deemed deceptive. I think this ad fails that smell test. While you are picking over their wording the claim "only the ..." would fall short of UK advertising standards if challenged. They would need to provide proof that they are the ONLY product that is safe. What I find interesting is the sudden spate of peculiar AAD failure modes being reported. I can't figure out if it is something that has been in the background all along but awareness is heightened, people hoaxing (or blaming their screwups on the AAD), or just simply odd timing. It is good to see people questioning their gear though. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/03/bushs-glib-waterboarding_n_599893.html Can we assume you're taking the "Waterboarding is not torture" stance ? You dont have to assume, I will verify that Unless you think we torture all of our SEALS I find it kind of hard to argue about That is illogical. Most special forces are trained to help prepare them for torture. It would not be surprising to know that they are subjected to "controlled" torture in many varied forms, as part of their training. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

You can have 100% safety by design, but not 100% reliability. All electronic systems have an inherent degree of unreliability (even with redundant/voting measures in place). You are "safer" with an AAD than without on the average skydive. The risk is worth it. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

For a first canopy I would suggest looking at the most popular square for an appropriate wingloading. The only thing I would avoid is F-111 as ZP is much nicer. I don't think it really matters what brand. I would get advice on when to purchase gear - probably not before getting your A license, but get advice from a seasoned jumper at your DZ. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

That's easy. Since the coaches program has been put in place most people on the DZ expect the knowledge to come from a coach instead of all of the experienced jumpers on the DZ. Most of the coaches got their rating to get their jumps paid for and have no business teaching anyone anything. Couple that with the self centered/it's not my job attitude of most people today and, Whala,huge gap in the educational process. FWIW, this makes perfect sense to me, Chris. I think it is a general problem in society. We have become to "nice" and everything comes easy. Once you realise that the problem is broader than skydiving alone I think it changes the potential solutions. As much as I hate the potential solution I can only think that enforced regulation is the only option that will work. We all hate the "nanny state" but when we are not able to effectively self discipline, I don't see any other option. About 30 years ago during any sort of "training" it was not uncommon to be treated to punishments that are now classified as bullying or abuse. During the early part of my work career (~20 years ago) there was a very strong drive to stamp out this so called "abuse". Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

The only reason I watched the video was to see examples of women dressed trashy. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

I recently met up with an old friend and we were discussing canopy collisions etc. About 10 years ago he competed in the world championships with a 4 way team, and a number of teams refused to jump with them. At first he was really upset as he didn't believe that they were "dangerous". However after a chat he learn't alot and changed his habbits. It turned out that as we were a small dz and a little behind the times we never had a "pattern" and it was simply a case of lack of knowledge. It goes to show that peer pressure works, but also in some cases people simply do not have the same training or background. Hopefully this shows that you don't always need to ban people to secure change. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

I don't think people get the irony. Arabs celebrating the death of a US soldier are Islamic barbarians that have no concept civilization. Americans celebrating the death of an Arab is different how? Don't get me wrong, I am not sad that he is gone. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

You do realise that as pops lives at the farm, he has already experienced an alien invasion with the arrival of Andy Copland? Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.