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You may get a little static because you state you are looking for advice but are truly only absorbing what you want to hear. You say: When the only advice you've taken is Trae's. Who has instructed you on how to dive up the windline and confirmed that "YOU WILL BE IN HEADOWN" to give you the confidence that you will be vertical. Everyone else that has asked either that you seek a coach instead of asking for typed word from strangers, or asked that you become an efficient head-up flying BEFORE attempting HD, has been brushed off. You say nobody can tell you you're not good enough because they haven't seen you fly. What makes you think they can instruct you into HD then? Also, you have confirmed that the coaches and instructors that HAVE seen you fly, have suggested you wait a bit. Proving that you are not willing to listen until you get what you want. The reason everyone on here, with the exception of ONE, is a little warry of intructing you into HD is because you ARE supposed to be able to hold a sit stable BEFORE learning or even attempting HD. You blow that off like you are being held back. You are actually asking how to skip steps in your progression! I may have been a little harsh telling you to grow up but I'm afraid I feel you are being immature. Asking a bunch of strangers for advice, and taking only that which you like, from one "Wing suit flyer/Freefall photographer". SO! All that being said: make it solo, make it 90 degrees to the wind line, don't stay in "head down" for more then 3 seconds at a time, don't go to your belly in between attempts but to what you might call your "sit" position, have a ton of fun and let us know how you make out

Because it was a very difficult decision. Difficult decisions take time to make. 'nuff said. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

I understand what it is you're trying to ask. But I think only you have the answer being that it's concerning a friend of yours. You see, I have two friends currently in training. I make no reservations about speaking with them openly about any aspect of the sport because I know them and when they ask me something, I have a better understanding of what it is they are looking for and why. That is, I am more comfortable saying something like: "This is what I do now and this is why. You should stick to what Scott (instructor) is telling you now and this is why." then I would speaking to a stranger student. The reason? Because I may not trust that the stranger student isn't going to take my way and apply it... And I'm not sure the stranger "gets me" the way my friends do. You know what I mean? I'm also more privy to their particular progress because I'm hearing about their experiences over and over and over again... lol... and watching their videos over and over and over again... lol. As far as actually giving advice? I'd say not until they are A licencend, and even then, it should be reserved to things you are 110% sure about and 115% sure that it doesn't conflict directly with what they may have been just taught. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Hey! Was that one mine?... I think that one was mine!

I agree things like this should be delt with internally. It's a shame really. This guy, out of the sport, likely more interested in using the death of a student to make a name for himself then his stated motives. I hope his "walk" doesn't bring him anywhere near me. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Grrrr! I landed with gum on my rig once because of your type! lol In your mouth or in the trash. That stick of 'Extra' chewing gum in the television commercial can skydive and make a quick parachute from it's wrapper... other gum shouldn't solo. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Are you saying that people that break their femurs are not wearing altimeters? FTR I just read the last few post and this may be way off base. I wasn't wearing an altimeter when I broke my femur... of course, I was sea-doing at the time. Actually Dom, I think he was just trying to say he thinks you're really cool for not jumping one. I think you are too. Nick My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

You need to grow up dude You are asking for advice in this thread. She was pointing out that you can get someone KILLED with what you are doing and she was expressing a few things you can do to prevent this. That merrits a humble 'thank you' from you... not this BS, hotshot. I don't advocate the "you need x jumps before doing yadda yadda" either... but one thing I do advocate is a little respect for your peers and a little respect for safety. Have fun flopping around "on your head". My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Thats from your first post. The article you read didn't say "if you've got an AAD, try a raft dive!" It said if you are going to do a raft dive, wear an AAD. Yeah, and If you're going to raid crackhouses, you should disconnect your RSL. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Sure everyone can fuckup. RSL shoud be treated exactly like AAD. Jump one if you want or don't jump one if you don't want to. But most importantly, don't critisise others decisions. But today we have to be very careful about the attitudes we develop for tomorow. We already have people deciding the "RSL will do it faster then me anyway". I'm positive there are some that are thinking that nomatter how low they are, they would pull the cutaway and focus on stability, leaving the RSL to do the trick for them. Just a thought. Actually, the idea I'm developping is that perhaps Students should be required to jump them (as they are now) and that they should NOT be allowed after student status. At least by diong that, people will have a benchmark moment in time where they remember the responsibility to pull landed on them. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

You've got the ol' chicken vs. the egg thing going on. It's not a cop deciding to raid a crackhouse because he has a vest. It's a cop deciding to wear a vest because he's raiding a crackhouse. There's a difference there. The cop who decides to do riskier things because he has a vest is an idiot. The cop who decides that before raiding that house, he'd better grab the vest which is collecting dust in his locker since he's been enforcing parking laws for the past month... is prudent. Though I do somewhat understand part of your concern. If you jump an AAD, you jump one. If you don't, you don't. To me, the idea of thinking you may need one "for this particular jump" is out of sink with the concept that those who jump them should pretend like they don't. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

It should not be considered "superior training and skills" to: a) have chopped a mal by or before your harddeck, or b) pull a reserve handle before it's too late The three rules are: 1) pull 2) pull at altitude 3) pull at altitude with stability It seems to be argued that the RSL's only benefit is for those that break rule number one. Ron and I had had it out once because he thinks that safety in this sport is hindered by AADs as people get into the sport relying on them. I would still disagree but THIS type of discussion is just how that happens. When defending the RSL, you say "Hey, if you think you have superior skills, then don't jump one." It is important that we not downplay the "pull" skill. It should not be considered a superior skill. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Tell that to the RSL This is something I keep hearing. The RSL is not for when things go right, it's for when things go wrong. Thing is... it doesn't know the difference. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Hmmm, think I might just use this in the RSL debate thread as showing how in some cases it's not altitude awarness that takes a backseat to gear dependancy. Sometimes it's just altitude respect that is lost. The RSL is not there for you to count on. Pull your own handles... on time... or you will die. That's the way to look at things. The RSL may beat you to the punch, deploying your reserve before you do but if you are in a situation where you do not have the time to deploy your own reserve and live you need to feel shame when you land. Nick My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Ah! Like there's a knot or something in the bridle, disallowing the pilot chute from inflating enough to pull the pin? I don't know. To me, if the D-bad is still on my back, I'm not taking the extra time to cut it away. It's funny, I had this discussion just last night with a friend. Pilot chute in tow and I'm firing the reserve. I'm going to have my hand on the cutaway though... and my plan is to cutaway if the d-bad leaves my back. buh... that's just what I'm "rehearsing" in my mind. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Thanks Ramjet, One thing struck me early upon reading that post though: (emphasis mine) You see, when I think of "Pilot Chute in Tow" I think: I wave off and pitch, nothing happens so I look back and I see my pilot chute is out, it's not dancing around in my burble or nothing but there, possibly fully inflated... failing to do it's job. "Chute entangled with bridle" sounds a little more messy than that. It's a high speed mal of course but is it a "Pilot Chute in Tow"? or is it a "Pilot Chute, D-bag, bridle and some lines in tow"?... because I'm definitely definitely chopping the latter if that's what I encounter. My decision not to cutaway a Pilot Chute in Tow is referring to a pilot chute in tow and nothing else, in which case, the D-bad is still on my back and if it leaves even at the same time as my freebag, I'm sure the reserve will beat the main in terms of deploying... I can decide to chop the main then if I want. If the D-bag is already off my back and is tangled up with my bridal and whatnot... I classify that as a "Ball of garbage" or "Bag of laundry" mal and it's going to be chopped. Does that make sense or perhaps am I missing something? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Using your example which likens being an Officer to being a skydiver where wearing a bullet proof vest is jumping an AAD: You are reading: "We recommend wearing an AAD for a raft jump." and saying it's like: "The officer can square off with a bullet now that he's wearing a bullet proof vest." IMHO, a comparison between AAD and bullet proof vest should be more like this: You read: "We recommend wearing an AAD for a raft jump." and think what it says is: "The officer does not need a bullet proof vest everyday... but if he's going with a bunch of his peers to the bust of a crack-house suspected of being fortified, he probably should wear it as his chances of encountering a gun fight are that much greater today." My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Well! The 'decision' made on the best course of action is... to have made a decision that you will stick to and drill to stick to it. The reason for this is because there are examples of people surviving by doing it either way... and there are examples of people dying by doing either way. I have chosen not to cutaway first. This is my reasoning: -Examples where people have died from cutting away first stem from the deploying reserve snagging and being choked by the leaving main. -Examples where people have died from not cutting away first stem from two out scenarios but in each case, the main was deployed after being stood up by the reserve. That is what tips the scale for me. I figure two major factors convince me that it's a better choice not to. 1) A pilot chute in tow is a high speed mal. You pitch, nothing happens, you look over your shoulder at it (spilling air over your shoulder... going faster) and still nothing, you decide to take action... that's a lot of time -and altitude- lost, why waist more time on cutting away? 2) Every time I hear of someone getting in trouble with a two out after a pilot chute in tow, it's been after reserve deployment or near it's end. Why not just keep that in mind and ask myself to check? I am positive I can be aware enough to determine if my d-bag left my back after the reserve left the packtray, if the main leaves my back, then I'll chop. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

That's alright hun, you don't like that job anyway. Change is good. Nick My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

I understand what you are saying but the FJC is in no way preparing them for a high horizontal speed landing to begin with. If your landing under a Manta requires a PLF, it is either because 1) you flared too high and (hopefully) held the toggles down until impact, or 2) because you flared too late or not at all. Althought the latter would mean more forward speed then the first, we are still talking minimal amounts under a student canopy. No more than a standard PLF is required. I would suggest learning and practicing more of a roll or slide as your canopy choice becomes more aggressive. But see, at that point, it is an experienced jumper learning safety technique which applies to the way he/she skydives. IMO, there is no point drilling this into students (IOW drilling students into the ground) when it is clear they will not be using this technique for a while to come. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Naw, just a plain ol' 300 jump wonda! I'm out for the evening! Have a good one everyone. It's been a slice. Remember, this whomever talking smack about all you pretty ladies... he needs to eat himself a slice of humble pie. Blues, Nick My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

It's such a tough call really. So many hot sky chickies! I'd create a poll to see which one would most likely have me!... then I'd chose that one... (if there is even one ) lol. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Oops, fixed that for ya. I think when I originally registered here, I might have checked the "Static-Line" box thinking it was asking how I started out and not seeing that it was asking about ratings. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Oops, fixed that for ya. I think when I originally registered here, I might have checked the "Static-Line" box thinking it was asking how I started out and not seeing that it was asking about ratings. I am no instructor believe me... I ain't no role model! My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

I'm trying to feed the trolls pie. Everyone knows that trolls hate it when you hijack their fishin' with a little pie discussion. They especially hate it when they are are given little attention and are not allowed to partake in the new discussion. I see a bed-ridden, broken troll... angry with women so it's likely he's in need of some "hot apple pie" type action... but will settle for pissing in the wind and hoping it lands on some others in his community who might find it more interesting to get a close look at what he's doing... rather then just enjoying a good pie discussion with friendlies. Personally, I saw it from the start!... I mean, it's a wonder the thread wasn't locked for trolling... I thought HH had spoken out against trolling so blatantly. Also, I thought it was considered a personal attack to call someone a troll outright as they are such lowlives by definition. Oh well, I guess not. So Troll, you are!.... whomever it was that was posting somethingrather about whatchamacallit. Let's just talk Pie and understand that skychikies are just about the hottest and sexiest there is! ...can I can an Amen? ...Can I get some Boston-cream? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!