Zenister

i have to point out that anytime i'm in a meeting and someone wearing a tie opens his mouth its usually not worth listening to...all the people who do the real work are in BDUs and pullovers/jeans/cargo pants..ties are a sign your brain has adjusted to functioning for long periods of time without adequate O2 only the adminosphere managerial types ever wear them and no one listens to them anyway..they dont know how the real world works outside the glass boxes.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

for this we HAVE to look at the increase in number of jumps & number of people making jumps..is one per week to much?? 52 per year? perhaps, perhaps when 10,000 jumps per week are happening, what about if its 20,000? How do you balance the fact that with increased popularity and participation, your also going to have increased accidents and a higher percentage of “Darwin candidates” as well? if dropzones start making double the number of jumps i would expect (all other things staying the same, as if they ever do) that the number of fatalities would MORE than double..if we are going to assign numbers like this you really HAVE to look at total numbers, and compare the number of incidents/injuries to other activities as well, to determine what a particular 'sport culture' will bear.. skydiving is by definition a very high risk sport. I would imagine its acceptable accident rate would be higher than say ‘less dangerous’ sports such as.....horseback riding?? yes there is a reason i chose that one..look up its accident/fatality numbers and tell me WE still have a problem, in comparison to more 'tame' activities. i realize this is an emotionally charged issue, and every body in such a small sport has perhaps a more significant impact because of the close knit nature of the skydiving community... but we certainly need more and better documented numbers about all aspects of skydiving and any increase in fatality/injury raters before making any arbitrary regulatory decisions.. also: to make the ‘unofficial’ poll numbers more meaningful, perhaps everyone should also list their age & # of outside responsibilities.. I think there we be just as much correlation there as the ‘old timers’ find between low jump numbers and those not wanting regulation. Some people ‘design’ there lives to accept higher levels of risk by limiting outside responsibilities. Everyone should look at their personal reasons for their own risk level and realize that not everyone else has the same reasons for deciding what is acceptable and what qualifies as “those insane F$#^$rs over there”. Living to be 80 isnt everyone’s goal in life.. Just because you have no desire to try something someone else finds joy (and danger) in is no reason to impose your more conservative mandates on them.. maybe we just need another waiver for HP canopy / high WL’s for everyone who wants to take that risk, then no one can whine about “I didn’t know the danger..”. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

sometime you just need that ONE button press to change the VCR input..(the button thats ONLY on the remote on some machines) moving the batteries sometimes works..pressing harder never does.. on remotes.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

actually it sounds most like he's repeating what the recuiters are telling him, so any 'lies' or exagerations come from them not him... i say cut him some slack and talk to him after he finished jump school.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

ROTFLMAO...dude just show him the hand and walk away... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

got an upright...but its not very travel friendly :( ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

they almost play their covers TOO literally..down to the little guitar scrape noises even..i MUCH prefer their original tunes.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

oh yeah... one "band" i saw that i really want to meet is Apocaliptica. walked out of their show speechless..turned to my friend marty..and said "do you hear that? Thats the sound of Bass cases world wide being snapped shut." "Heavier than thou" is the only way to describe them... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

lol....like candy..to easy.. actually i prefer Call of Cuthullu.. aka "when hell freezes over" ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

actually i call them Metallica and Popicca.. since theres no metal left.. edit: totally agree...Cliff, Steve Harris, and Terry Butler were the main influences when i started..still are the foundations..but theres alot more jazz and funk influence now too.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

SCARRED??bah... only if you call haunting my dreams for the next hundred years scarred.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

if were counting thoose i've got a much longer list.. Kreator Destruction Coroner Fates Warning Queensryche Deep Purple Iron Maiden Rush James Brown Metallica (with Cliff) Megadeth Slayer Motorhead i'm sure i've missed a few...the previous list was outside of "fan" context..all these are from hanging around before and after the shows.. edit: and more military generals than i care to name..i was 'briefing bitch" for the TSM shop i worked for... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

nah i've seen her...i'm much more interested in Kriss.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i have many scars already and yet i somehow doubt you'd scar anyone.... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i know lots of secrets, whats it take to get a nude picture of the Miss?? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

are we going to see said keg this weekend or next?? congrates mate! ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

you are correct..i couldnt remember what her last name was but i knew it wasnt Cornell ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i'll put the ones i've got up on my machine at home..its online most of the time... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i've met him and his wife..shes a hottie too and looks like you'd be in for a fight..maybe we could sell tickets.. i've also met Tori Amos Jason Newstead (when he played for Flotsom&Jetsam) Bruce Dickinson (fenced against him in an Atlanta Open..beat him in foil and got my ass handed to me in sabre) Mark Sandman ran lights for Morphine for a month one summer Ted Neely also did lights, but we hung out alot Tony Iommi & Terry Butler Chuck Yeager Gunthar Rall Whoopie Goldberg sat next to her on a plane back from london ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

indeed! ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

awwwand i was going to ask if you could please roll a grenade into their dressing room..their 15 min has been up for a while... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

at the risk of getting beaten by the next DZ.com AF chick i run into... at Ft. Huachuca the joke was Marines were issued an AF chick along with their linens... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

lol..i had forgotten about this..hmmm who should i complain about today?? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

and i REALLY want a pair of the Morpheous glasses, I have since the first movie..but your right..i'd lose them in the first two weeks.. i can keep 10 dolla shades for a year but anything more expensive disappears, and 240 bucks is a lot of jump tickets for shades i cant jump with... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

but without an observer (god cant count since he's outside the system) how does time pass? isnt time actually a measurement of consciousness? (not just human) ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.