Zenister

travelling... long car rides (just did ALOT of thinking, may have used up my allowance for this year) and planes i cant jump out of.... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

seems to be the trend in modern movie making... LOTR pretty much ignored the fact it was supposed to be a sword and sorcery flick and put waaaaaay to much time trying to 'humanize' all the characters.. a good flick, but really lacking from its source material.. Troy falls in the same category..simply beautiful, but lacking the depth and subtleties of meaning found in the original source. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

of course most anyone who has been there will agree there are much cleaner ways to get your adrenaline/endorphin fix.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

I propose a toast! to my self control. you can see it crawling helplessly on the floor over there.... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

lets not forget the Xaos21 21 sq ft Andy Farrington has jumped multiple times now... of course the look on his face when asked when he would land it was priceless.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

hmm seems we did this before... seems there was quite the boogie going on on the second level.. sounds like night jumps then eh? in this level its all about the docks... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

hmm since i just got back from a long time off, work wouldnt look so favorably on me disappearing this week....might stop in Snohomish over the weekend on my way to raft a bit... been here nearly a year and havent jumped in Snohomish yet...but with Kapow's otter so near i need another excuse to travel away.... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

hey! there is a reason i replaced that 'other' rig with an Infinity. The Mirage is still perfectly serviceable and will be for many years, but my Infinity is waaaaaaay prettier, and fits me sooo much better.... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

lots of Muslims are 'proving' the 'truth' of their faith every day in suicide bombings. you are still using a literary source as 'evidence'. What you have are stories, myths and legends, (and yes, in many cases myths, legends and stories plagiarized from older religions.) A fabulous way to lend credibility to a young, developing religion, but nothing that qualifies as evidence of the believers claims. hardly what one would call an 'unbiased' source, his account (and opinions of it) are hearsay not evidence. any documented as written, rewritten, translated and edited as often as the bible is likely to have a lot of 'internal consistency'. The gospels cannot validate each other, they are all the same 'source' ie Christian works written by believers, after the fact, long after. They cannot in any way be considered 'eye witness' accounts, as there is little to no evidence to back Christian claims of the original authors ascribed to each book, much less originals to compare to current editions to show revisions by translators, scribes and committees since. do you actually believe the [color=red] words in red[/color] are recorded 'as spoken'? You accept on faith that they are factually accurate accounts, but there is no evidence to support that claim, its simply a belief. perhaps you should examine the definition of evidence more closely. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

essentially you have to look at the agenda of the writer/source. Is it a event being recorded, or is it persuasive? does the author have a reason beyond documenting history/events as they occured? is he pushing a particular social, religious, or political view? Is he recording the story as he was told? by who and for what reason? what level of proof/evidence is created in each instance? show one outside (ie non christian) source that supports the assertions in the gospels, and the actions of its principle characters. well if i had the divine voice of god in my ear everyday as i was recording his words (and not mine mind you ) i'd assume he'd probably get the geography right... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

It is actually what it looked like.

really? provide evidence of the sermon on the mount and miraculous feeding of the hungry masses? please provide evidence of any of Jesus reported actions against moneylenders at the temple? please show that a man named Jesus was even executed? by whom and what for? his temptation by satan? healing of lepers? walking on water? got a receipt for 30 pieces of silver somewhere? id love to see the evidence you have for resurrection. I've never seen any that was more than hearsay, and i'd be really interested to see what qualifies as proof of the entire passion timeline... there has always been corroborating evidence for biblical floods in other cultures mythos. that is a good example of a historically 'verifiable' event, however the biblical timeline leaves much to be desired and claiming 'the world' (when we know it certainly wasnt, or even a significant portion of even) flooded because of your angry divinity isn’t 'evidence' of a faith's veracity any more than claiming the sun rises because Ra pulls it through the sky every morning.. one of these is easy all 'sources' that can be traced to his cult are discarded, biased 'sources' are not evidence. Basic historical evidence of an individual’s existence proves nothing other than a human of that name existed at that time. I can prove my uncle existed, i cant prove he cured my aunts cancer, even if she claims he did to this day... there isn’t anywhere near as much evidence as christians claim, much of what is provided as 'evidence' is only historical hearsay continually repeated by believers. It has roughly the same veracity as those who claim a spaceship crashed in Roswell.. of course the believers know the truth ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

back this assertion up. "obviously"??? no not at all, this is a circular argument, the 'respect and trust' of the authors is only accepted by believers, they are/were no more respected than any other literary figure (and that is all they are, as there is little to no actual evidence that backs their claims and observations, or verifies the events they describe from an unbiased, outside source. Find one outside source that documents the life and travels of your carpenter and his disciples that does not come from a believer. What you ‘accept’ as evidence of veracity is hearsay not evidence. Having "multiple' accounts is irrlevant if they are all using the same 'source' material to create their tales of worship and wonder. perhaps you should look more into the literary analysis of your mythos, where simularilties in style and prose rrather convinvingly show that there existed a 'source' document for all your 'eye witness accounts'. But of course believers will claim the simularities in writing sytle and substance are coincidences rather than collective plagarism, and that the account were written 'shortly' (thus far shown in excess of 50-100+ years depending on the book) after the events supposedly ascribed took place. your book of cultural mythos may be an interesting guide to get you through the times when you cant make ethical and moral decisions for yourself, but it is in no way anything more than the collected, edited, word of man, claiming divine inspiration, and there is no proof (following the rules of evidence, not those of your faith) that the men who claimed to witness the events described witnessed them, or that they actually occurred at all. You may have faith to that effect, but you cant back it with historically verifiable, scientific evidence. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

since the only defense against incoming fire is more accurate outgoing, what do they expect us to do carry pompoms and cheer on the soldier who barely qualified last year?? That is just asinine ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

you'd like to think so, but from where i sit at the moment i can see 5 unsecured and 1 secured network. it was even funnier last time i went thru Dallas..from the airport i could see 7-10 depending on where i sat and several had nothing preventing me from wandering around in their harddrives if i'd been so inclined... if ignorance were painful maybe people wouldnt remain so for as long as they do.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

yet another reason i'm looking at apts in Tempe this lap thru.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

looks like she might be a redhead too....hmmmmm ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

Exactly - that part was beautiful. Go to posts 6 and 9 and that's the problem. These comments were not about 'somebody' helping a little old lady, they were about a stereotype helping a little old lady. no they were about the person, who (most likely) gets treated like the stereotype often enough for it to exist in the first place.... the “problem” is some cant seem to accept that stereotypes DO exist and are a significant influence on first impressions and inherent social prejudice.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

It becomes potentially viable at around 24 weeks and, therefore, human according to even his standard. He doesn't agree that, even though it is human at that point, that it should be granted rights as a human (i.e. right to life). He is still for the woman being able to abort after that point. He thinks that, even though it is human, that it doesn't gain those rights as a human (i.e. right to live) until it can survive in our environment on its own. Before that point, he compares the killing the fetus with that of freezing the wart off your finger. By the way, it doesn't cease to be called a fetus and then called a baby until it is born. These are just semantics. You can also call it a parasitic organism and be very accurate. It makes it easier to kill that way. i love how you know what i think. I suppose that is how you also know what is best for every mother/fetus and are willing to make decisions for them. you continue to use the words 'potentially viable' when the only potential it has comes from the mother, not the fetus. Its not viable until it can survive on its own. Even premature births are not 'viable' until they breathe on their own. If the doctor takes an emergency premature birth off life support are they committing murder? Did the baby ever have a life apart from that extended to it by the machine? Does it have life apart from that granted by the womb? it has potential life and equally potential rights, but it has neither without its host. if it cant breathe in our environment it isn’t a functioning member of the human race at the most basic standard level, and it never was to be granted the rights of one. Everything we are discussing is semantics. Birth is the process by which a fetus transitions to our environment, until it can survive that transition it is a fetus. Once it can live on its own its a baby and should be granted rights as an individual. Its really not very difficult to distinguish the difference. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

Man I wish I was back there again...Eloy, I miss you!!! Painted blue across my eyes And tied the linen on And I'm on my way Looking for the paradigm So I can pass it off Is it on my side Is to the sky Looking to the sky and down Searching for a ground With my good eye closed If I took you for a ride Would you take it wrong Or would you make it right Looking for a pedestal That I can put you on And be on my way Is it to the sky Looking to the sky and down Searching for a ground With my good eye closed Stop you're trying to bruise my mind I can do it on my own Stop you're trying to kill my time It's been my death since I was born I don't remember have the time If I'm hiding or I'm lost But I'm on my way ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i suppose removing tumors and warts is in direct contradiction as well? your certainly causing harm (to tissue) in both and yet because there is no potential for future development that is a more valid reason? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

its not a standard for 'life', its a standard by which you grant it the rights as a 'human'. the requirements for a fetus to grow are quite a bit more than the 'care' a baby requires once it is born until it can accomplish the most basic biological functions on its own, in the environment its species exists in for the majority of its life, it is not a separate member of that species, its only a potential one, if autonomous functions occur at 24 weeks (without heroic medical efforts which only replicate the womb it still requires to develop) then that is the point at which its should be considered a separate 'individual' with the same basic rights as an adult. Until then it is completely dependent on its host (the mother) and she should have sole only say in what occurs to her, not you, not me not even the sperm donor, and certainly not any government or religious institution. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

Ok Lindsey…one more.

A nice ideal however, experience indicates otherwise. there are all sorts of 'uniforms' for every clic, but if you pay attention its not hard to see some of these things are not like the others....unfortunately most people rely solely on appearance to decide who is likely to be 'good' and who they think is 'bad' ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

oh i dont think they'll have any problems keeping it running