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  1. If this is true, Jo, would you consider that Cossey interfered with the Norjak investigation by telling falsehoods? If so, should he have been prosecuted? Clearly he had spun Larry Carr 360 degrees on who owned what. What about the NB-8 canard, since Hayden adamantly claims he had two civilian chutes? SO, what you are saying is that there were no military chutes whatsoever - no NB-6, no NB-8 - NADA! Without those chutes, Cossey thoroughly de-railed the Norjak investigation, and the whole FBI perspective on Cooper picking the wrong chute, being a whuffo, etc, is all bullshit. At what point does Cossey's action constitute a felony? Why didn't the FBI arrest him if he was such a mixed-up, dangerous guy? Or did the FBI benefit by having a crazy guy on their team who would say anything to anybody for any reason? Is that why he got whacked?
  2. How big is your ruler, 1K, there are a reported 900 or so confessees. Right here we've got: 1. Barb 2. Kenny-ish 3. Duane 4. Wolfie G-ish Then there's smokejumpers, special forces,etc....... Actually, no. You are speaking of the number of people the FBI seriously checked out for the hijacking...NOT the number of people who actually confessed to the crime. LOL produce a list. You can stop at 500 or so, and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on the remainder. Let's cut to the chase, Bobby. How many confessees do you think there are? Is 500 your magic number when you begin to doubt your conviction in the family confession of Kenny Christiansen? What if I can only prove there were 400? Or 300? WTF difference would it make to you? That's the way it is with pissing contests. Speaking of confessions, what did you think of my chapter on confessions and what Himmelsbach said about the hunderds of confessees he reviewed?
  3. SO, Rikes, you don't believe me when I say that Cossey told me that he owned the chutes and sent them to Sea-Tac via Boeing Field? How come? Similarly, how come you're "sure he didn't mean he delivered them to Sea-Tac." What's the basis of your confidence on this issue? BS, I thought it was accepted that the chain of command went NWO SEA Flt Ops scrambled and phoned Pacific Aviation (I believe there is a statement from the individual, Harrison maybe?) who knew/contacted Cossey and he shoved the Hayden chutes he had packed at his house into a cab (after being paid for them by NWO SEA.) They went to Boeing Field then to Sea-Tac by private car to 305. The other two were harder to secure and went more direct by state patrol. It was my understanding that Cossey much later said he "owned" the chutes because he received money for them which was sent in the cab by NWO SEA. Am I wrong on all that? Yes. What you claim is kind of Cossey's story, circa 2009, and supported by Larry Carr here in the DZ, except you substitute Hayden's chutes for Cossey's. Cossey always told me the backs chutes were his, and he told Larry the same thing. The FBI files on the subject are clearly fucked-up, but they don't even come close to csuggesting your scenario. When I called Coss in 2011 to sort it out, and asked him why he sent the chutes to the wrong airport he said "Fuck You" and slammed his phone down. Further, the private car has never been identified, nor the driver. We have two conflicting scenarios: Hayden's and Cossey's: To wit: 1. Hayden had two identical Pioneer back chutes and sent them directly to Sea-Tac by taxi to George Harrison at NWO freight office. I spell all this out in detail in Chapter 8, which is the biggest chapter in the book. Remember, the book's only $6.99 My computer froze in the middle of posting this, so it is incomplete. I re-did it. See above.
  4. Oh, Bobby, what are we going to do with you? The FBI report is totally mucked-up. Even your sanitized and heavily edited version of the FBI report that you keep posting is fubar'd. For instance, where the fuck is "Boeing Flight Services in Seattle"? And why were the chutes sent there when the skyjacking was taking place at Sea-Tac? HUNH!
  5. Not quite. 1. Since no one saw DBC exit the airplane we don't know conclusively if he was wearing the second, reserve chute (the "dummy" chute). Remember, there were no D rings to attach it to the main chute harness. Nevertheless, it was not found on the plane in Reno. Also missing were the bomb in the briefcase and the money in the bank bag. Since none of these items have been found, the question is where are they? 2. Yes, the FBI has the cut-up "good" reserve chute that DBC left on the plane. Stored in Seattle FO. 3. Yes, the "not-used" back chute was also kept by the FBI and delivered to Hayden about ten years later, after he waged a court battle to get it returned. 4. However, Cossey says his "not used" parachute was never returned, even though NWO supposedly paid for it. There is no explanation of these circumstances from the FBI, Cossey, or anyone else that I am aware of.
  6. SO, Rikes, you don't believe me when I say that Cossey told me that he owned the chutes and sent them to Sea-Tac via Boeing Field? How come? Similarly, how come you're "sure he didn't mean he delivered them to Sea-Tac." What's the basis of your confidence on this issue? BS, I thought it was accepted that the chain of command went NWO SEA Flt Ops scrambled and phoned Pacific Aviation (I believe there is a statement from the individual, Harrison maybe?) who knew/contacted Cossey and he shoved the Hayden chutes he had packed at his house into a cab (after being paid for them by NWO SEA.) They went to Boeing Field then to Sea-Tac by private car to 305. The other two were harder to secure and went more direct by state patrol. It was my understanding that Cossey much later said he "owned" the chutes because he received money for them which was sent in the cab by NWO SEA. Am I wrong on all that? Yes. Chap 8 tells the full story (only 7 bucks!) and all the scenarios and who says what, and what FBI files are Fubared, etc. In a nutshell, we have two scenarios - Hayden's and Cossey's. Adding to the confusion, the FBI files mix them up and add a few new twists that no one confirms or can explain. Anyway: 1. Hayden had two 26' Pioneer back chutes and sent them by taxi to NWO freight office, attn: George Harrison, at Sea-Tac. 2. Cossey says he had two back chutes at his home that he OWNED (and was later paid for by NWO), and sent them to Boeing Field via taxi, and then they were transferred to a private car and delivered to Sea-Tac. The driver and the car have never been identified, to my knowledge. I called Coss in 2011 and asked him why he sent the chutes to the wrong airport and he said, "Fuck You" and slammed down the phone. Additionally, Cossey vacilitated greatly on what kinds of chutes he sent. He has told me, and others, a variety of types of parachutes - NB-6, NB-8, Pioneer, a Paradise, and also allowed others to believe (erroneously) Paracommanders, such as Sluggo and many here at the DZ. Early FBI documents claim Cossey sent an NB-6. Cossey confirmed that with me and said that he stuffed a 28-foot canopy into the container, which is designed for a 26-foot canopy, thus making it a tougher pull. Larry believed the 28'-into-NB6 story and talked about it here. That's also the story Coss told me in 2009, but he denied it with me in our 2011 conversation. Cossey also told me he sent a 26-foot civilian "sports" chute. In 2011 he settled on a Pioneer, but earlier he had been all over the map. As for truth, Cossey flip-flopped on Cooper's skills and choice of chutes. First he made it, then he didn't. Plus, the FBi used him as the go-to-guy for Norjak chutes. Now, Cossey's rep is sanitized and all he did was pack a couple of Hayden's chutes way back when. Note: Cossey did pack Hayden's chutes - I saw the packing card - but both Hayden and Cossey told me they didn't know each other, so when and where the packing took place, I don't know.
  7. SO, Rikes, you don't believe me when I say that Cossey told me that he owned the chutes and sent them to Sea-Tac via Boeing Field? How come? Similarly, how come you're "sure he didn't mean he delivered them to Sea-Tac." What's the basis of your confidence on this issue? BS, I thought it was accepted that the chain of command went NWO SEA Flt Ops scrambled and phoned Pacific Aviation (I believe there is a statement from the individual, Harrison maybe?) who knew/contacted Cossey and he shoved the Hayden chutes he had packed at his house into a cab (after being paid for them by NWO SEA.) They went to Boeing Field then to Sea-Tac by private car to 305. The other two were harder to secure and went more direct by state patrol. It was my understanding that Cossey much later said he "owned" the chutes because he received money for them which was sent in the cab by NWO SEA. Am I wrong on all that? Yes. What you claim is kind of Cossey's story, circa 2009, and supported by Larry Carr here in the DZ, except you substitute Hayden's chutes for Cossey's. Cossey always told me the backs chutes were his, and he told Larry the same thing. The FBI files on the subject are clearly fucked-up, but they don't even come close to csuggesting your scenario. When I called Coss in 2011 to sort it out, and asked him why he sent the chutes to the wrong airport he said "Fuck You" and slammed his phone down. Further, the private car has never been identified, nor the driver. We have two conflicting scenarios: Hayden's and Cossey's: To wit: 1. Hayden had two identical Pioneer back chutes and sent them directly to Sea-Tac by taxi to George Harrison at NWO freight office. I spell all this out in detail in Chapter 8, which is the biggest chapter in the book. Remember, the book's only $6.99
  8. How big is your ruler, 1K, there are a reported 900 or so confessees. Right here we've got: 1. Barb 2. Kenny-ish 3. Duane 4. Wolfie G-ish Then there's smokejumpers, special forces,etc.......
  9. SO, Rikes, you don't believe me when I say that Cossey told me that he owned the chutes and sent them to Sea-Tac via Boeing Field? How come? Similarly, how come you're "sure he didn't mean he delivered them to Sea-Tac." What's the basis of your confidence on this issue?
  10. How could I have forgotten about Petey!! ??
  11. Maybe they were, um, partying with Jumping Jack Cash, you know that Jack Collins guy and his Northwest 727 captain brother, Brad Collins' Uncle Buddy. Or Wolfie? Nobody knows where he was on T-Day, '71, either. Or Richard McCoy - he was missin', too, except that Russ and Bernie found him Las Vegas, but Seattle says "nah"... Barb missed the turkey, too. Not sure on Duane, but I'm sure Jo can fix that gap in a jiffy. Braden? I dunno. LD - well, he made it to Momma's on Friday, but a bit banged up and squished in Dewey's UK sports car. Burnworth? He was in Germany with the girls. Lots of guys not at the T-Day dinner table, if you know what I mean.... Hey, BK, where were you? Watching football on TV? Whose TV? Whadda the crew do after the mission was over?
  12. This reminds me of Governor Nelson Rockefeller's famous quote to the media press corps in the 1970s: "What you think I said is not what I think I meant to say."
  13. DB Cooper made the comics: http://xkcd.com/ (upper right hand corner, just below MH 370)
  14. If you would like to read Chapter 1 of DB Cooper and the FBI, it is now posted in full at the Mountain News: http://themountainnewswa.net/2015/03/17/db-cooper-and-the-fbi-a-case-study-of-americas-only-unsolved-skyjacking-published-on-amazon-kindle/#comment-28964 You can also read another stream of commentary, as Galen has adopted the MN as his current fave site to share his views.
  15. Nothing, 1K? You missed my book announcement? I've been working on it for eight years, and surely it's got something in it that might interest you. DB Cooper and the FBI - A Case Study of America's Only Unsolved Skyjacking. At Amazon.
  16. Thanks, Sail. I sold 12 books yesterday! Woo-hoo! As for marketing, the Kindle folks will help me take it to the next level. Nimi Wrecks is helping with library and historical club speaking engagements, and Shutter is gonna make a promotional video, so we's rollin'.
  17. All of those different numbers are just to see if you are paying attention. When Cooper jumped, the airliner was cruising at about 170 Knots Indicated Airspeed (KIAS). This is what the pilots were seeing on their Airspeed Instruments. It is also the same value the crew would see on their instruments if the airliner was at Sea Level flying in a standard atmosphere (such as the 1962 US Standard Atmosphere). Correcting that 170 KIAS value for the 10,000 feet altitude and temperature, the speed of the airliner with respect to the air mass surrounding it is about 195 Knots True Airspeed (KTAS). Knots, or Nautical Miles Per Hour, is the standard unit for speed in Commercial and Military Aviation. A Knot is equal to 1.15 Statute Miles Per Hour (MPH). So for the masses, that 195 KTAS becomes about 225 MPH. This is actually the "free stream velocity" of the air, with respect to the airliner, outside the air mass disturbed by the airliner's passing. Say a point that would be 200 or 300 feet abeam of the airliner at the instant it passed by. Robert99 Exactly! See my "2nd" Edition!!!
  18. You did IT, Smok! Congrats....
  19. I think there a lot of single socks and gloves at that place. A lot of small parts too. No other explanation for their disappearance. 377 I concur. I like how you think, Three.
  20. Rikes, math is not quite our strong suit around here. It reminds me of my last wife when I asked her how many men she had slept with. I kept raising the, um, "mph" until we were at 200 and she just laughed. As for, um, jumping at higher speeds, I defer to my good friend Robb Heady. He has the cajones to jump at 300-plus. BTW: I sold another book today! Look out Dan Brown and JK Rawlings! For the record, my book says Cooper jumped at 175. It had been a bit over 200 (205?) when DBC asked Rataczak to slow it down and Bill lowered the flaps to 30 degrees and speed to 175mph.
  21. When I moved to Nashville, it took me a while to learn what people meant when they'd say, "Bless his heart...." Now, I know.
  22. I fully support this book, Bruce...but I will give you my standard warning regarding reviews. If people see 'shill' type reviews there, (glowing reviews of the book given by people you know personally who are not listed under 'Verified Purchase') you will get hammered by long-term Amazon reviewers. And they will start countering with one-star reviews to bring down your overall rating. So don't get your friends and family to do reviews, because the REAL reviewers at Amazon will teach you a lesson. They see shills all the time. And they don't like shills. And remember...if this happens to you their reviews will stay with that book until eternity. Be careful. To show you I am telling the truth about this stuff, I once published a short-story collection for Kindle. It was a sci-fi collection from authors worldwide. Well...this one author who contributed decided to review the book in general. I messaged him and said: 'Take down your review please', because I knew other Amazon reviewers would eventually see his name in the book itself. He refused. I pulled the book from Amazon, took out his story, and replaced it with one by somebody else. Then his review worked, because he wasn't in the book anymore. Never get your friends to review your own book at Amazon. It will only cause you misery from the people who have been doing reviews there for years. Trust me on this. We have more than twenty-five Kindle books going at Amazon to date. If I do a review of your book, it will be a fair one, I will say I know you, and I will actually BUY the book first. On your pricing problem: Maybe someone forgot to check the boxes for all the foreign markets that say this: 'Set UK price automatically based on US price' (followed by the other foreign markets) There are like 13 or 14 foreign markets. Each check box for these markets must be checked. It's under Rights and Pricing for your book. Most of your sales will be US, UK, and Canada. Some Germany. Sounds like the Italy pricing is off. Eleven euros? Sounds high, even with the European VAT (value added tax) charge. Fair enough. Thanks.
  23. To give ya a taste of what's in the book: Table of Contents Chapter 1 An Introduction to DB Cooper and the FBI’s Investigation Chapter 2 The Skyjacking Begins Chapter 3 The Getaway Chapter 4 The Search for DB Cooper Begins Chapter 5 Sketches of DB Cooper Chapter 6 Bill Mitchell, a Prime Witness Chapter 7 Profile of DB Cooper Chapter 8 The FBI Investigation Digs In Chapter 9 The Murder of Earl Cossey, the FBI’s Parachute Expert Chapter 10 Flight Path, Weather, and the LZ Chapter 11 The Money Find Chapter 12 Looking for Tina Mucklow, the Primary Witness Chapter 13 The Legacy of Cooper Case Agent Larry Carr Chapter 14 Citizen Sleuths Chapter 15 DNA Chapter 16 DZ; the Mountain News, and the DB Cooper Forum Chapter 17 922 Confessions Chapter 18 The Confession of Barb Dayton Chapter 19 The Deathbed Confession of Duane Weber Chapter 20 The “Confession” of Kenny Christiansen Chapter 21 The Family Confession of Wolfgang Gossett Chapter 22 Early Suspects, Ted Mayfield, and the Cooper Vortex Chapter 23 The Vortex and a Jailed Suspect, Don Burnworth Chapter 24 “Most Promising” Suspect, Marla Cooper’s Uncle LD Chapter 25 Letters from “DB Cooper” and the Mysterious Al Di Chapter 26 The Ideal Cooper Suspect, Sheridan Peterson Chapter 27 Suspects from Vietnam - SOG and Ted Braden Chapter 28 Richard McCoy, MKULTRA, and the Role of the CIA Chapter 29 Copycats Chapter 30 Robb Heady, an Interview with a Copycat Chapter 31 Cyber Attacks on Cooper Investigators Chapter 32 Why Can’t the FBI Find DB Cooper? Chapter 33 Remote Viewing, a New Forensic Tool Chapter 34 What’s Next in Norjak? Reference A: Who’s Who of Norjak—The Hunters and the Hijacked Reference B: What if DB Cooper Didn’t Jump? Reference C: Barb Dayton and the National Geographic Documentary Reference D: Factoids from the 2013 Symposium Acknowledgements Biography of the Author, Author’s Note Photo Gallery (26 photos)
  24. BIG NEWS My book, DB Cooper and the FBI - A Case Study of America's Only Unsolved Skyjacking, is now available at Amazon, in a Kindle version, which is an e-book. The text reads very easily on a commuter screen, but is designed for tablets and such, too. I am so excited! My Amazon site is also set up for discussions, ala blogging, so you can interact with a broader audience than here or at the dbcooper forum. $6.99 gets you in the game in the USA, and in about 90 days I'll be seeing about $4. But if you want to buy it in Russia, it's gonna cost you $89. (?) Italy is eleven Euros. Hmmmmm.... Also, if anyone would like to post a review at Amazon, I'd be most appreciative. http://www.amazon.com/DB-Cooper-FBI-Americas-Skyjacking-ebook/dp/B00UULLCOW/ref=sr_1_1_twi_1_kin?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1426642459&sr=1-1&keywords=DB+Cooper+and+the+FBI