JerryThomas

Snow eye witness acounts provides the proof You can call the fazio's sand an gravel co. One of the brothers will verify the info I have given you.They operated the backhoes used to escavate the site. Jerry

The areals show from a computer map. Jo You just told us how you have found all your land marks.Acording to the peopl at the park in question it did exist in 1te 80s but not before then.

quade Jack the Ripper, excelent comeback. You maybe right. but eventualy some one will come across a skull or a piece of metal attached to a chute. The way this area is growing I'm sure it won't be long. Still its possible a lot can be learned from this. Whether it be the efects of global warming and how streams and rivers flow or just what happens when you jump out of a airliner into the uknown. Jerry

Hi quade . Jo there is one more thing you might like to know about the columbia river. When a large ship moves downstream it creates a wave that moves logs/sticks and other debris up stream a 100 ft or more at a time.I have measured this more than once and pointed this out to many people to include Tom Kaye.The main question is could it be enough to move a floating object upstream a few miles. the floating object would have to be continually pushed to the shore line and remain boyant. This can be possible.This is how. The river is tidal and rises and falls rapidly so do all the others in this area.This would allow a object to get wet and then dry out. Then the next time the river rises and floats the object and abother large boat goes by and causes the waves to move the object , it would continue its path up stream. This is a well known fact and has been observed by many. Jerry

Jo acording to Fazio /Ralph and others the dredge had placed there pipe more than 100 ft above the site from where the money was found Fazio's Believe's the money floated down from the washougal river. There was pieces of money above the site where Brian found the Bundle of money This could have only gotten there by it floating from upstream. If it had been buried on the Columbia river it would not have traveled in the manor it did,The scatered piecies of money found above the bundle clearly indicates that.Now as for the dredge the money could not have been deposited by any dredging operation the propellers on the dredge would have chewed every thing up to include the bundle Brian found. this has been known for years. Fazio even checked this out himself,so did the FBI and the Army Corps of Engineers. The money was not buried on the river. One little known fact is that there are a lot of deep holes in the columbia close to the shore lime any money that was buried would have floated out and sunk into one of those holes. In short the only way the money could have reached tena bar is durring a high flood stage with fast moving current.and had to be done quickly in order for the money to retain its boyancie.This means the money had to be dry and compact.Hope this helps you to understand what science has provided.

Snow you are correct I was refering to the one they use now.Remember When I posted a few weeks ago refering to the fazio's comment about where the dredging material was placed on. Tena Bar then I mentioned that things changed and dredging material wasn't allowed to be placed on the beache's anymore. It disturbs the little fishe's habitat.

Geoger Cute did you hit the castle or the rock.

I made my first jump back in 1970 at Ft benning Ga. When did you make yours.

Georger I have more details on food stages for 1971 thru 1981 if you want them Also a trailer park that Jo discribes across the washougal river bridge was not in existant in 1971 0r 1980 bummer for her and I bet that she can tell you when the bridge was built ( the new one ) but can she tell you when the old one was built and who built it. I don't think so At least any guess of her's would be wrong.Or Her research will be wrong. Maybe it was Brad Pitt. Who Knows.

Yes thank you I recieved the same message I did not realize it went out to more than one

Quade why don't you post on this thread more often. I for one would welcome your comments and concernes on a daily basis I don't post that much My wife got upset and will never post again . Althouth she does like orange 1 georger 377 , and yes she does like the Blank mann(snowmman) I don't Know why. That being said I would realy enjoy your comments on alot of these mater's.I mainly monitor this forum and this thread. I would have never posted on it if it wasn't for a personal Invite. You have a job to do by monitoring this thread.Or should I say police work. At any rate your job is unrewarding and at best very confrontationable (sp) My request is be real and only let all that post be honest and real. Jerry

Bruce Nothing tickled just common Knowledge Ralph and i have shared for years. Maybe a tidbit you already know. Cooper was a common criminal and not Duane Weber or Collins.

Georger Research shows that on Dec 19th of 1971 was the high flood stage. This is the info you requested it also was the same level as all the other years. Info can be found at the vancouver library and with the FBI records.

Yes the new dredge is great it takes in all material and does not deposit any of it in the side of the river It does hold all the deposits in its holding tanks and exspels it at a desegnated area controlled by the Army Corps Of Engineers. Just off the colubia River.Questions pertainig to this operation can be found on line very easily But you already know that.

Bruce Smith I will notify you of all upcoming engsgement's from now on . I believe you live in Roy Wa. I'm easy to contact. Please do so If you like.

Touch"ee!

You don't realy care so wy do you ask

quade Haven't talked to you before now is my chance .I agree with your comment about this thread being about the cooper case. and I think it should be that way. Is there any way we can keep people off this thread that makes up stories to fit there fantisies. I believe that the facts in this case can and should be reviewed by all. I just left a conference in Portland that Ralph and I spoke at. all that was presented was the facts.Then we opened it up for questions. alot of the normal questions came up. They were answered with facts and knowledge /experence / common sense involving the case.There are times that people contact both Ralph and I by telephone that we do not make people aware of. This is only fair to all, we must keep the lines of comunication opened.However I feel there is a fine line between building a story and adding to it in order to gain personal satisfication.Your call is always respected I would not post this comment if I didn't think it was neccesary I Know a alot of the people on this thread personaly and I am happy with most of them.I do believe that there expertise in there fields are very important. The key word is expertise and not fantisie. Jerry Thomas

Jo don't start this again duane never claimed to to be Cooper and you Know it. And you have PM us more than once. If you would like I can send every one a copy of all our telephone conversations from the first time you called us just after duane died. You know the one when You told Jerry that Duane whispered in your ear he knew who cooper was and then you stated that duane got upset and said never mind I'll take it to the grave with me. Then you said to Jerry that you thought it was just his medication talking and asked Jerry if he thought that there may be some thing to this story. Should I go On I just got done listening to the tape. Sound familiar if not I'd be glad to refresh your memory with more of that conversation and let everyone have a copy of that tape and the others we have on tape then they will know the real story and how you have built this fantasy of yours. Would you like me to do that? It would be my pleasure to do so. I would respectfully request that you stop puting Tom Larry /FBI geoger sluggo and all the others down because they do not agree with you.It seems that your scared of all of them to include Jerry for what they know.and it threatens the chances you have for fame.I realy don't wonder why because Iknow why.Please say yes to me sending a copy of all telephone convesatios to everyone or just get off this forum. Shelly

Jo your PM was not right if you want to continue to hide your feelings and humiliate ,threaten me please do so in public. Do not threaten or humiliate me in any other way. other than public.One last thing Jo Please correct your story about 2001. Out of respect I'm not like Jerry I will ask before I react. Shelly

Jo do you mean 2001 space odyesy or your imagination sometimes I find it har to keep up with.Still Life can be like a dream or disnryland?disneyworld don't you live in Florida. Is that close to fantisie land. One last question Why do you go by the last name of Webber. I'm married to Jerry and I still keep my Maiden name My full name is Shelly Lisa Lupfer Thomas. If Jerry was to die and I remarried I would go by my new husband's last name, If he was to die for what ever reason, I would use his last name after my maiden name. For instance. My maiden name is Lupfer.If Jerry died and I remaried someone with the last name of Medon'tno .Then I would use the name Shelly Lisa Lupfer Medon'tno.So why do you still use the last name of Weber. Oh! I forgot you don"t remember your ,Last Husbands Last Name Or You didn't care enough about him.

Snowwman you I will not be threaten.how ever I will invite you to shellys and I wedding aneverseary party in July.