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All very true. Derek

Doesn't matter, the reserve should be open is less than 300 feet, regardless if you are at terminal or not. Of course you would want to pad that number. If your reserve takes longer than 300 feet, something is wrong with either the container or the reserve. Derek

PA measures it as 181 sq ft. PIA measures it at 199 to 203 sq ft. For comparison, the PD-193R is measured at 191 sq ft by the PIA. The problem is the measuring method used, quality control, the sewing process, etc. Derek

To pass TSO testing a reserve has to open within 300 feet. That can increase for higher weights, but almost all need to be open within 300 ft. Derek

I grew up in Napa, CA, TX wines don't measure up. The industry is geetin away from cork, it can taint the wine. I thought all TX wines came in boxes? Derek

We weren't too keen on their other whites either, but this ine was so unique and good, we bought a couple of bottles. They told us that they take a big risk by allowing the grapes to ferment naturally like they used to make wine, so they don't make a lot that way. So far, they are 4 for 4 years of making one wine this way. It is really good, differenmt from any other chard. If you get the chance, grab a bottle, it is worth it. Derek

I don't give Texans a lot of credit, but you guyd can grill. C'mon up, the tunnel will be open soon and the ski resorts have already started opening. We got a short snow storm here at 5330 FT MSL this morning. Derek

Now you know you have an open invitation. We are well into our third bottle. We just reviewed the video from my wire strike BASE jump. That night wasn't nearly as fun as tonight is. Derek

I'm glad I don't have to work in the morning. Derek

Just sharing. LOL, ya dry too. The 3rd bottle is chiling a nice Coppela white

Flyangel2, Skycat, and I (Hooknswoop) are rinking a very nice, natural yeast fermented, Miner Chardonnay, the steaks are on the grill, desert is in the fridge, and the stories are flying. Good times and better to come. Derek

In summary; I think we all agree that the training should happen before she jumps again, and my understanding is this has happened. Whether or not to tell her she is grounded as punishment, not everyone agrees on. I think some agree that student training needs to be looked at to see how this can be prevented in the future. Some agree that gender may have also played a role. Derek

Right, I understand the individual loops are round from the Dacron, but what keep the two loops pulled apart to make a channel for the kill line? It looks like the two loops can come together, squeezing the kill line, adding friction. Derek

I completely agree. I do not mean to downplay that she failed to save her own life when she was completely capable of it. I understand that she understands this too and has taken the necessary actions to ensure it doesn't ever happen again. So that is taken care of. What cannot be overlooked is the possibility that she was set up for failure. What about the next student that recieves the exact same training and understands it the same way. Simply saying it was her fault, now it is fixed, move on isn't right. The next step is to determine how she (and others) ended up in the mindset of relying on their RSL/AAD and fix the training. The students coming in the door are who they are. The training must be designed to handle that and if they are pre-disposed to being device-dependant, change that and make sure they are not. The FJC doesn't have to mit the reserve handle. Again, if the student is allowed to simplify their training (I'e already given an example of how this does happen), they can end up with the mind-set that all they have to do is cutaway and the rest is handled. This must be targeted by Instructors. Explaining EP's very carefully and testing the students has to happen. Instructors must assume that the students walking nthe door are device dependant and address that because. Derek

That is one of the wineries we visit when we go to Napa, CA. We really like Coppala's wines. The winery itself is incredible. If you get the chance, go visit it. Derek

Thank you for sharing your experience. I think this happens more often than people realize. Another issue that you sort of brought up is gender (gender deleted). Sometimes female jumpers get a lot of attention, none of which helps them learn or be better skydivers and can make things worse. Derek

I was just thinking of added friction on the kill line, shrinking it faster than normal. I have had very good results using a Rapide link and tacking the link to the d-bag. Derek

You forgot about Milat..... http://www.milat.com/wines.php#pinestationrose Milat 2004 Pine Station Rosé $9.00 The winery was a blast to visit. Derek

How much does the Smart link cause the bridle to squeeze together onto the kill line? Derek

Not sure exactly when they started doing it, but RI has been using a split ring like that for a while. Great minds think alike? Derek

Excellent point and I think we agree 100%, you just worded it better. I guess I was thinking of the grounding as, "You are grounded, go home and think about what happened." and not, "OK, before you jump again, we need to make sure you understand all of this." Semantics. Not really a grounding, but just re-training before she jumps again. Same thing, I guess, I just associate grounding with punishiment/fixing attitude problems, not holding them on the ground until they are re-trained. Derek

Not if you understood your EP's to cutaway and the RSL would activate the reserve and that is how everyone does it. I don't think she shouldbe grounded if she misunderstood. I do think a grounding is called for if she just didn't care. Groundings are for attitude problems. Training is to correct problems. Like my tailwheel training example. I misunderstood what I was supposed to do. Grounding me would have been unfair and pointless. Instead the Instructor explained in different words waht I was supposed to do and I then understood and did it just fine. Derek

It would depend on the tunnel.. You couldn't do it in the Skyventure wind tunnels, since the rig would destroy them when it came off the jumper. Fans don't like solid objects going through them. Derek

That sounds very cool. Can you post pics/specs/dimensions? Derek