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Everything posted by jclalor
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***Actually, that book was written by numerous people and there are numerous other writings confirming what they said which include some roman historians. It is all well documented and was undisputed at the time. In fact it was all more well documented that most historical "fact" about many other nations and what they did or who they conquered etc. Even those who opposed christ didn't deny the miracles happened. It all happened in a society which was highly documented and phyosophy, debate, and writing was a huge. Thousands and thousands saw these miracles. If it was all false why isn't there at least one documented case of someone saying that the guy wasn't really blind or they saw this guy later and he couldn't walk again or they saw how he trick everyone. In fact there is a case of a magician/sorcerer who tried to buy the ability to do miracles and was denied. Why didn't he oust them? We have a bunch of writings from him. We actually know more about the situations surrounding the death of jesus from roman history than from the collect of writings we call the bible. The fact is the earliest books written from the bible were from Paul, perhaps 30 years after the death of Jesus, The only author from the books of the NT that spoke and read Greek was Paul ( though most of his letters were written by srcibes and not his own hand) None of the origional letters are left. Several of Pauls letters that made it into the bible are confirmed forgeries. All of the gospels were written 40-90 years after the death of Jesus by greek Christians. There is zero evidence that any of the deciples of Jesus could read or write Greek. All of the Gospels started as oral stories and were spread by mouth. A husband might convert his wife, who inturn converts her sister who inturn converts her husband who inturn converts a friend while on a buisness trip who inturns converts his son who inturn wrote a gospel. This gospel was then copied over and over by many scribes who could not even read but were only able to copy the script, there were a ton of mistakes. None of the early synoptic gospels are the same, they ALL HAVE DIFFERENCES. Many scribes added their own words, and removed words to fit thier own belief. Keep in mind that there is no reference that Paul ever even saw a gospel. He was dead before they were written. As far as Roman History refering to the Christians, the first reference is about 200 years after the death of Jesus. and it was not about any of his miracles. I am always curious as to why Chrisians, always make the claim that thier sect. is the one true sect and all others are mistaken.
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With the advance of science and the media, "miracles" are becoming a thing of the past. Cancers and other diseases will go into remission and theses are chalked up to a miracle by god. Believers will always chalk up theses cures to the power of prayer. The one thing beleivers will never pray for, is for the legs of a double amputee to grow back. They know better.
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Thanks, don't I feel like an idiot.
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I have a PC, so I can't set up an account from the phone?
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And when I go there, and attempt to download a song, it ask for a user name and password. Where would I register? On the Itunes site on the phone there is no place no register.
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I purchased an IPhone last year, and have just gotten around to trying to upload music. Can I download straight from Itunes to my phone? and if I can, how? Thanks in advance for any help.
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And the Republicans love to bitch about how NGO's are run much more efficiently than the evil government. http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978116367
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Tea Party protesters heckle man with Parkinson’s
jclalor replied to skymiles's topic in Speakers Corner
The face of compassionate conservatism, Jesus would blend right in. -
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I really hope you live long enough to see how most of your Christian beliefs will end up on the losing side of civilized history. Just like all The previous positions held by conservative Christians on woman's rights, slavery, interracial marriage, segregation, and a host of other positions, all of which were claimed to be based on Christian values and what is morally right. Get on the winning side for once.
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Miss Beverly Hills Thinks God Wants Gays Put to Death
jclalor replied to Andy9o8's topic in Speakers Corner
That is a very good point. What are the most important aspects of the the bible, they should be all the all good stuff that is in the bible. To use the bible to prohibit people from getting married in a church that agrees to perform the service is wrong and illogical. There are many aspects to the bible that are wonderful, but it seems not too many Christians are rushing out to make these into laws. There is little question among biblical researchers that there are many errors in the bible. The early scribes that copied the many books and letters in the first few centuries did not do a very good job. Many of theses scribes could copy but not even read what they had copied. Many of the early scribes did not use punctuation, capital letters or even spacing between words. godisnowhere Words of an atheist or believer ? You can see how no spacing between words can cause problems, even if it was in greek. -
Video surely did kill the radio star.
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Miss Beverly Hills Thinks God Wants Gays Put to Death
jclalor replied to Andy9o8's topic in Speakers Corner
How would you respond to: the fact that Matthew 1 and Luke 3 provide the lengthy genealogy of Joseph all the way back to King David, to show that Jesus was the messiah, Yet Jesus was of no blood relationship to Joseph. We are told in Mark 15:23 that Jesus is crucified at 9 in the morning, on the day of passover. yet in John, he is crucified at noon, on the day of preperation for passover (John 15:1-20). Was Jairius's Daughter already dead? Jairius comes to Jesus ang begs him to cure his sick daughter. On the way there, Jesus gets sidetracked and by the time he gets to Jairius's house, the girls is dead. Jesus then raises her from the dead (Mark5:23-43) In Matthews version (9:18-26), Jairius's daughter is dead when Jairius first finds Jesus. He wants Jesus not to heal her, but to raise her from the dead, and Jesus does. -
If I recall correctly, Obama voted against Bush's amnesty bill. McCain was in favor. Illegals get free healthcare already - they just turn up at ERs and the rest of us pay. Young, healthy, and most are living well below the poverty level, and or working for cash. This will mean they will qualify for healthcare subsidies.
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Allow me to simplify: That will happen when I can fire monkeys out of my butt. There. Now it's just a matter of calculating the odds. *** You may be loading up sooner than you think.
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I was wondering, that since Obama has repeated over and over, that no illegal's will be eligable for healthcare under reform; what happens if he grants amnesty to the 12 million illegals? They will then be"legal" and now eligable. I lik Obama, but if he did this or tried this...........
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I did my AFF at Hollister, and had a great experience. The AFFI's are great, and I have seen people finish in 2 or 3 days. The DZ is also very student friendly.
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Still waiting for Hannity to go through with his waterboarding. I still love the argument from the right, "Hey this is the same thing they do to our special forces" http://www.sott.net/articles/show/204349-Stomach-churning-details-of-CIA-waterboarding-crimes
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Both of my grandparents were not born here, they always referred to their native country as the "old country" for a while I did not even know what country they were talking about. I don't hear the " back in the old country" phrase much these days. What I do hear is the " back in my country" . I work with a lot of immigrants from all over the world and the vast majority refer to their native country as "my country" even though they are now citizens here. I know I should not let this bother me, but at times it does.
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I like this site: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
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[parody] That's not too far off the mark, I do work nights.
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P.S. Jclalor, your a much bigger man than I. I hope your rewarded richly for your merciful efforts. sincere gratitude... for what its worth. Thank you and everyone else for the kind words, I just consider my self very forunate to have this job and to be able to work with such amazing children. When I started nursing, I never thought I would ever be able to work with sick children, but now I could never imagine doing anything else.