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Ok so in other words, Mike Mullins can say as a sitting BOD member that "USPA's stance on age limits is fucked in the head and anyone big enough to climb into a rig and jump out of a plane should be able to do so." He can say that as a DZO and an individual as long as he says / posts that without signing off as Mike Mullins USPA BOD.??? So that would mean if I felt like setting up a website about what a lier Glenn Bangs is and then I get voted in as a BOD member, I would still have a right to maintain my "Glenn Bangs is a lier" website as a citizen of the United States, would I not? As long as I don't use it to speak as a acting BOD member, correct? It would seem to me that if there is no clear line in the rules as to what can or can not be said or posted or placed on a website by a individual who happens to also sit on the BOD, then it could be said she was acting with in her rights to legally in act her 1st amendment rights afforded to her under the constitution of the United States as a individual citizen and individual uspa member and not as an acting BOD member of the USPA. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Say Gary, could you explain to those of us who may not be clear on this, the rules that apply to BOD members as to when they speak as a BOD member or as a individual. In other words, where is the line drawn, what is allowed and what is not allowed? you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Salute Go west, young man, go west, may we meet again on the other side. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

YEA, now that we quit letting him use the radios........ you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

This is true, it's who is sitting on the inside of the circle with mouth open waiting to get creamed, is the person or persons you have to look out for. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Well spoken, not entertaining. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Well yea, it's knowing what the clean end is, thats the trick.... I think I have a new sig line. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Spence, Mike G can speak for himself as to how he feels about things, I won't try to speak for him, but read between the line of my post up a little. I've talked to Mike & I understand his point of view & I agree, I think he would find it a huge burden removed to have you run to hold the seat or anyone else in the region. I think he would say he would like to see all new people take back the place in one big ousting. You can only fight the good fight for so long when out numbered. Martin & Tom Thanks for putting your money where your mouth is. Maybe we can hold the first burn your membership card boogie @ Tom's place, but let us first storm the castle gate just for shits and grins, be rude not too! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

You should down load a copy of "The Skydivers Information manual" or "sims" at www.uspa.org you can down load it for free or order the fancy one for 25 bucks, it will cover all types of training under each program that most USPA dz's and instructors would teach using the ISP, in the book is the answers you seek. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I'm sure he'll be thrilled to know Jan & her supporters will be gone if he get's her kicked off. You guys aren't "Team Players" and only rock the boat, so good riddens. I would rather see more stay and use their vote with their voice and make the change that is seems many posters would like to see, but I don't think it will happen. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

That is for you to figuare out as a member. We agree, maybe you'll see more names in the ring this time? Maybe not. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Well Ted, something is strangely afoot here at the circle K, word on the street is my RD Kip Lowmiller was asked to step down, yet as the prop turns, has it that he refused to step down and was going if front of the full BOD in a few weeks and that info is from "some what" trusted sources, (whom I think are being told what they want to hear), but I was asked to not say anything about that in public, so don't tell anyone. So with such wild talk about all that down on spinning prop street, I'm not real inclined to call up my RD and trust anything he or some ND's, have to say on USPA business, based on what is known fact so far and with such wild talk around, it's to hard to know who's word to believe, you have to wait for action to happen to know the real truth. In fact I have good reason to believe that some players of the powers that be, would like to try to pull a fast one on the membership of the mideastern region and insert a hand picked "puppet player" of their choosing at this up coming meeting, should the chance to do so come up. Depends on who you ask or believe, if you look close you can see bits of egg still on their face, depending on your point of view. Somtimes it's best to talk with other USPA bod members who are not known to be on the take or have a personal interest in the out come of a regional or national issue, as some BOD members do. Can we see a vote on that, who asked to turn off our voice? I know who I voted for and if any of them want my vote again they will hear the membership. You know is pretty bad when you talk to newer BOD members who tell you that they are ready to step down and not even wait till the next election because of the "good old boy" network being so intrenched that it's impossible to make any real change and that in his opinion it is a waste of time, unless your one of the "cool kids" or "Glenn's girls". Could this be why we see many people all full fire and ready to change the world, get a seat for a term and then by the end of the term their so burnt out on the bullshit they have to wade thru and blow jobs they have to give to get anything done, that their done spinning their wheels with USPA and they don't run again or nor do they want to hold the seat as a write in. So how do we take back OUR org, when they don't care to hear from our voice and turn off the email, who should stay and who should go? Who should we believe? To me and I think others who have been around for a long time, it's clear to us who holds seats on the USPA because it's some big ego stroke for them and has been for a long time and this is why they keep in the fore front all the time and maintain a full time PR program to remind everyone how great they are for skydiving. And then we have those who really work for the membership and do the right thing, it's up you, the member, to figuare it out and send in your vote. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Funny I see your name,........ Jan you been doing those under age tandems again, your such a boat rocker. Oh and when are you going to change out your gag for duck tape? We can still hear you muttering. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I don't how much it's being honest as much as it's is a reality check, you show me a skydiver with any kind of years in the sport and they will all tell you they got lucky once or twice or "I learned this, on this jump". Now days I find myself on the ride up reminding myself I have an AAD now & when it's turned on, so I can plan accordingly. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Why do you think she has been working so hard on the online voting, so we can have an easier way to get rid of her.......NOT! I sure hope a BUNCH of membership will see the light now, it's way past time for Glenn Bangs to GO with others! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Doctor's got him on some new meds and he's been dreaming shit up all week. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

2.5.......Miles, yea 2.5 miles, definitely twooooo point five miles, that's two point five miles downwind, yea downwind 2.5, 2.5 miles downwind...........unless your a mouse then 5 mouse miles.........definitely five mouse miles defintely, definitley downwind! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Ckret has left the building, along with Elvis, Jim Morrison & Hank Williams. That Ckret, well....... He got hung up in one of those Mickey Minnie Mighty Mouse traps while hot on their trail of mouse poo in Mexico. But have no fear Jerry the Mouse & his side kick Tom is here, to save the day! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

That's what I thought........Good thing I placed my bet. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

If your going to go in, you might as well go in looking good! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I'm not a member of the cypres club nor do I plan on being one. But yes it's easy to find yourself in the basement when flying with your head up your ass. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

USSA=United States Skydivers Association you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Would this be the same MR that packed Skinnys rig with the bent pin? Wait......let me place my bet! (Edit to add not dearly departed skinny's rigger Mike G) you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I can't remember the dudes name, but that is what he said as he stepped out the door and then tracked for the pea pit in Waynesville Ohio, he all most made it, well part of him made the peas but we're not sure what part it was, my vote was brains. You could also tell he hit in mid turn from the marks on the ground. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

It's clear their all from Canada, just look how their flying! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo