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Yea Mark Brown on Saturdays, good LO and fun jumps. Darrell Light (sp) is around most days too, good LO as well and fun dives. With both these guys you will find a mix of exp. & anything from 4 to 14 ways, both are very friendly and will to work anyone. Have her ask at manifest those guys in the office will hook her up with those LO's. As for roads look at a map and take your pick, it's LA! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

That is the look at me game, stop surfing the net and play with us is the message they are sending you. My lab dose the same thing with socks, it's a big game she will play when I get home and don't spend enough time playing and loving her. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Yea and then they would sue you if you live or your estate if you die, for the emotional trama and mental anguish of having to throw you off the cliff even if you have a signed waver, ain't America great! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I don't leave out AAD's or RSL's for the record. However as I said I might agree with riggerrob's point of view, that IDK yet he has not posted his point of view, ie why he said that yet. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

oh young grasshopper, you so miss the point.....let me clear it up for you in laymans terms, go find you a crusty anal retentive grumpy old fuck like RiggerRob who will let you hang your FNG hat in his loft a few days a week and keep your mouth shut and your ears & eyes open and take notes and take it all in for as long as you can if you really want to learn sumtin, all the books in the world are great and all, but it's the indian tricks you can only learn in person by those who know the fine art of rigging from years of ed-u-ma-cation in the hands on learning enviroment and who have learned from the old crustys before who have long passed on, GET IT? Goood! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

The only info I don't cover unless asked is the radio, and yes I have had students VERY thankful I trained them to do on their own, this info has been said to me in person as well as the survey's that the DZO has handed out for the last 5 years. However I have been considering reducing the amount of info I provide to a FJC about the RSL, after having a number of students confused about it. Mostly the release part. We have a indepth training tape followed by live review of the whole system. 90% of students understand, it's the 10% that slow down the class. So I tend to understand (maybe) why RR said this, but he can speak for him self. Now me I can see just covering the basic of it's function (rsl pulls ripcord cable if you cutaway, as long as it is hooked up right, don't count on it to save you!) and leaving the "advanced functions" for "continude education" meaning those who return to do progression. This would cutdown on brain overload of a FJC student. It's kind of like learning how a carb works or learning how a carb works & how to rebuild one. While this only something I have been thinking about, not doing, I teach per the sims and ISP, but may in the future revise how and what I teach about RSL's in the FJC class in the next season,????, the season is winding down here so I may take the winter to talk to others I's as I travel this winter. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

A future dead one.... Big mean & ugly.... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Testing is already under way... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Go work in a loft and sweep up the crumbs, rigger Rob loves to have crumb sweepers give him a call..... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

It will be interesting to hear your thoughts after you get an instructors rating and have trained many many large classes of FJC's. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Don't listen to all the bullshit you hear about Dolphins sucking or about velcro on the risers sucking, because it's all bullshit! Dolphins are great rigs if your a noobie or a longtime jumper, their well built and very comfy too, customer service is top notch even if you buy a used rig Mike will take care of you and stand behind the products he makes and sells new or used. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

How did you get to be such a smartass, oh yet runs in the family..... Now shut up already! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

We had to keep it hid from you and the rest of the Prudue U dillholes, cuz you guys can't keep from tearing up equipment or even follow basic instructions, See what I mean, why do you think we had your fellow retards from Prudue U training the rest of the retards like you...... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

It could be a D-2 that will hold a 190 just fine. I have a D-1 with a 170 main in it & a 150 res. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

"Hey KID, if you see me pull my main, you better pull your reserve"! -Scotty Carbone you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Hans: "Why did you guys get out over there"? US: "We let Andy spot". Andy: "I saw a red barn"! Rest of the load & DZ: "Now you know WHY we don't let Andy spot"! I loved seeing the sights and the naborhood locals were friendly and inviting. Oh and my wifes fav...."your the 4th unplanned pregnancy @the farm this year".... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I tell them about when one it get's put the chest strap or if asked about it in class, I explain they will be trained how to do without and then I move on, beause it is a waste of time to dwell on it. The time spent in the parasim takes the class room CC and moves it in to real time and a virtual jump world and canopy control, we have had great success in using this training tool and have landed many students on the main LZ with no help via radio, because they did over & over in real time. I would rather spend my time traching them how to do it on their own and do it safe in class room and in the sim, then teaching someone to listen to a radio and build a false sence of security that they don't have to learn what the hell to do because "we'll be talking them down". Seen more then one person not take serious canopy control because they were told they have a radio and not to worrie someone will be talking them down. Your correct. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

We use a parasim in our training and I want the student to know from the start to do it on their own from the first jump. This was started because the radios were shit and failed 50% of the time or more. I have had not problem with students landing in the main LZ and getting soft landings with out any radio help at all, I see no reason to fix something that is not broken. Students spend their class time learning how to fly a prarchute, instead of thinking someone will be there to hold their hand via radio, if trained right they don't need no stinking radio! It's like relying on an RSL or AAD it's there to a do a job, but may fail. When the radio do work (we have nice new ones now) they follow the directions just fine. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

A smart instructor teaches class and don't train for the radio or even bring it up unless asked about it, at that point I always say, " I teach you do to do this on your own without any help from the ground, radios fail, battries die and you have to know how to get down on your own". Most insturctors I know train like this. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Go look in the photography fourm under post your best shot, I just posted a bunch in there. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I get your point and I was yanking your chain for the most part. But I still teach the SIMS in a FJC and have found it works when in use by students who fly off to the trees. No I don't expect someone to freeze to death, but I do expect them to stay put and wait for help with in reason. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

And your statements speak loudly that you sir have not and do not run student Op's or daily DZ Op's where each jumper is accounted for. I have never seen anyone hit a tree or stand of trees that went unnoitced and no one went out to assist the jumper out of the tree or trees. However I know of two people who hung them selfs by not waiting for the help that was on the way to help them get down. And two that died from being impailed by braches, so there is some good advice in there. While you say, Well maybe you could re-write it for us to read, "do to the large number of dead peoples skeletons hanging in trees and scaring the wuffo's that pass by we advise you to take action right away and do not wait for help and climb down, fall, jump, slip or any other type of escape from the trees because all the skeletons hanging around are making us look bad". you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Mr. Hicks, ya might wanna turn up your volume JUST a TAD! I mean if you want to cut it close dude, that's cool with me, just wanna keep ya posted!

Well first of all we can't post large files and second of all not to many people posting in this fourm are going to post large files and have their worked ripped off or give it away for free. However there is a big thread a few down "post your best shot" and you could always look through that thread and if you see images you really like you can contact the photographer via post's, PM's or websites listed in some folks profiles and ask them if they will get you a large file of the image. There are many here who sell their works. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Far out it worked! Was heard accross the dz....