RhondaLea

You're all of the above. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Well, there ya go then. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

sheesh, it must suck to be her. i can only imagine what a situation like that would be like. i made nine jumps yesterday, does anyone else reading this thread skydive? Then again, it's always possible she's totally whacked out and addicted to drugs, and she has nearly driven him to the edge, which would explain his rage and fury. If that's so, then he should probably take her for a drive and leave her by the side of the road. You clicked on the wrong forum, btw. This is the Bonfire. The skydiving forums are down the page. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Take the test and see. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I forgot to add: I'm schizotypal...well, not entirely, but I do have some of the traits of someone with schizotypal personality disorder. Edited to add, reply to Cocheese: yes. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I got tired of all the peeing threads. How whacked are we, anyway? http://www.med.nyu.edu/psych/screens/personality.html Also, for those who like to post tests, here are links to pages of them. http://www.healthyplace.com/site/tests/psychological.asp#abuse and http://www.queendom.com/ rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Even if it's covered under "freedom of expression", abusive "expression" does that concept a real disservice and it takes a real wimp to be ignorant and pissy in a childish gesture to then HIDE under the cloak of freedom of expression when someone stands up to them. That said, it also takes a childish cop to chase the other child down and find an excuse to ticket them for simple gesture of disrepect. In that case, I think the two would deserve each other. In that case, the cop would be in the wrong legally in abusing his position of authority, but both would be children. {I had to write this last sentence for those that are incapable of being able to separate what I wrote above from my taking any position other than this one). All agreed. But the point Jon wanted to make is that fear equates to respect, and this was his example. There aren't too many people of whom I've been afraid for whom I've had much (if any) respect. As a matter of fact, in giving it some thought, I'm pretty sure that respect is never engendered by fear. Self-preservation may dictate that we have to kowtow to those who are bigger and stronger than we are (figuratively and literally), but I can't think of an instance where such a reaction arises from respect. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

[reply At least in my state, there's not much he can do to you unless you happen to be speeding. It's known as "freedom of expression." No one was talking about spanking the teenager for her accusation, and a spanking is unnecessary. The judge is going to take care of her. Making false accusations is a crime. But you're wrong about what "domestic violence" describes, and it is most certainly applied to the use of excessive force in disciplining children. I'll bet you that she is an emotionally, if not physically, abused child. Her father clearly has a problem keeping his cool. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Um... I think if more people spent one day at a place where doughnuts are being made, fewer people would have a transfat problem. More than enough said. rl, who worked at Krispy Kreme for five months until she couldn't stand it anymore If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

If you go flats fishing in the Keys, you pee by hanging off the back of the boat. But peeing in the pool is not okay. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I don't have a problem with this generally (in my experience, however, it's true for both sexes, because people are lazy), but I do have a problem with it as applied to this situation. We have seen the show of temper. What this leads me to believe is that she moved from her home to his home (several states away) where she knows no one but him, and then discovered just how short his fuse can be. Obviously, her best bet is to return home, but I think that if she went to that much trouble moving to be with him, she's entitled to some slack about moving back out. As I said, though, I don't get the feeling it's safe for her to stay, or even that it was ever safe for her to be there at all. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Urine. It's not just for the shower anymore. Everything you ever wanted to know about urine therapy but were afraid to ask. And one more thing, funks, if you want to get rid of the green shit between your toes, you need to piss directly on them, not into the drain. You're wasting a valuable resource. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

With that in mind, I won't crosspost any more of Walt's base stories here for those who avoid the Bonfire, so if there's something else for you to be unhappy about, you'll have to find it yourself. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Had the two of you broken up because you're abusive? Throwing her out is the best thing you could do for her. Staying with you sounds unsafe. I get the impression she moved to be with you, got scared because your temper is obviously out of control and started to rethink the whole situation. She probably only stayed as long as she did to figure out how she was going to extricate herself with a minimum of damage. Two weeks isn't enough, but it's probably safer for her. It really doesn't matter who she had sex with. You're just making it an issue because you feel like it. It's no big deal; people meet the former sex partners of the their current lovers all the time with no ill-effects. There's more, but I'll leave you with this thought: if you don't want to know what people think, don't ask. rl P.S. You need to be very careful about evicting people. With your inability to keep your temper, you could end up being the one with no place to live. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Ahhh! acceptance from the great rl You're weird. I gotta hand it to ya, though. You're accumulating quite a body count. So...are you going to restart the thread over at r.s? rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I liked the Crystal Springs, but it has been a few years since I stayed there. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I'll know better next time. The next time I fly, I'm going to be thinking about the night you made the weirdest post I've ever seen. Thank you, dear. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Because of examples like the one I gave about myself, the liberals came along and made new rules that allowed to occur the example I gave about my daughter. The same applies to situations involving incest and inappropriate touching of children by other adults. Which is why a whole bunch of daycare operators went through hell in the 80s and why now, if a child makes an allegation, it is still believed, even though there is evidence to indicate that children do lie, particularly when they are oppositional-defiant teenagers. So while it's not the topic, it sheds light on the topic, and you can't just sweep it under the rug as inconsequential. Who makes the rules, who draws the line? Who decides? rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

The Holiday Inn is probably your best bet then, but I'd still get the housing list. The taxi ride from here to the Holiday Inn costs about $5. Damn - I was hoping for a date And I was so hoping to have a long, intimate chat with your lady friend. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Just a little too harsh. Depends. A spanking? But what about a belt? I remember the belt. I also remember being 14 years old and getting my face beaten into a hardwood floor--for telling my sister that she needed to stay out of my stuff. She was my father's favorite, and he protected her. From 15 to 18, I lived in foster care, a group home, a residential school. Some people don't know how to temper themselves, and someone does need to do it for them. But where does one draw the line? I spanked my daughter...one time I even wrapped my hands in her hair and dragged her to her room (try it, it's pretty painless)...but I never did it often and I never did it hard, and I never used anything but the flat of my hand. As far as I'm concerned, anything more than that in the way of physical punishment is unacceptable. The pendulum always swings before it settles. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Why do you know so much about Aqua Net? If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Depends on what walking distance means to you. I'd say it's about a mile away. It wouldn't be too far out of the way if a local who was also doing the jump fetched you on their way to the dz. How are you getting from the airport to the dz? I thought the DZ was at the airport. Isn't it? She meant, "How are you getting from Orlando (or Sanford) to DeLand?" Are you renting a car or taking DOTS? I haven't read the whole thread, so this may be redundant. The dropzone has a housing list. Write to info@skydivedeland.com and ask for the list to be mailed back to you. Or you can call 386-738-3539 and have a copy faxed. There are bed and breakfasts, private houses--both skydivers and non--as well as quite a few motels in the area, depending on how far from the dropzone you want to be and how much you want to spend. The housing on the list has been checked out by the dropzone. There are other places listed in a notebook on-site that have not been as well as people who post rooms for rent on the bulletin board in front of the gear store. There's camping on the dz (free, next to the landing area), or you can stay in the bunkhouse for a nominal fee (nominal for good reason). I'll probably be gone by the time you get here. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I'm just going to start posting links to Walt's base stories in this thread because he seems determined to post the in the Bonfire instead of here. I know some of you don't bother reading the Bonfire at all, but it would be a shame for you to miss these. Here's another good one: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2050420#2050420 If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

It's tied to the lunar cycle, which takes 12 years to complete: http://www.ofesite.com/spirit/chinese/origin.htm And here's an explanation of the origin and history of astrology, generally: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02018e.htm If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

The reason that beating doesn't work is that it doesn't work. An occasional well-aimed swat is a good thing. Regular spankings are useless. But there is an issue that you missed. In our zeal to protect our children from "bad touches," whether that means inappropriate sexual advances or spanking, we have gone overboard. Schools educate kids to believe that they have certain rights, and one of those rights is to be exempt from parental discipline. When Beck (who was oppositional-defiant at the time) was in 6th grade, we had a major to-do because she had missed the bus for the 7th or 8th time in a row. I took her to school in the car, and I yelled the entire way (this is also very ineffective with kids). There was a fair amount of mishegoss that went on in that 5 minute ride, but I never touched her. I did, however, do something heinous, for which I'll never forgive myself--when she got out of the car and stuck some stuff on top of it and started to brush her hair, I warned her to stop brushing and get going. When she didn't, I swept the stuff still on the seat onto the sidewalk, shut the door and drove away. One of those things was a cake she'd made the night before for her teacher's birthday. It landed upside down. She went in crying. Two hours later, the New Jersey Division of Youth and Family Services showed up at my door because the school had made an abuse report. I told the social worker exactly what had happened. She said, "Well, I understand, but that's not why I'm here." Eh? "Your daughter thinks you're going to kill her." Well, okay, I said that. "If you miss the bus again, I'm going to kill you." I don't know about all of you, but it was my mother's stock-in-trade phrase that meant, "If you don't cut it out right now, you're going to be really, really sorry." So think about it. We can't even say some things to our kids without expecting retribution in the form of governmental intrusion. And our kids know it. And the schools teach them exactly what to say to get someone to let out the dogs. I feel bad about the teacher, but in a way, it's an ironic kind of justice that the kinds of accusations the schools are teaching our kids to make are now being turned back on them. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb