RhondaLea

It's all good. As I said, I use it funny too. Confuses people, even if that's not my intent. "Time starts now" and all that, as long as you're willing to accept mine. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I'm confused by the emoticon, but I use it in unconventional ways, so I'll assume you did too. I thank you. And for the sarcasm that I returned in full measure (starting you know where) and initiated here, I also apologize. Now perhaps we can we can start having straightforward dialogue without more than the occasional barb.

You have my undying thanks. Let me know if I can ever return the favor. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

http://www.fudgedesign.co.uk/tuk/thyroid/hyposymptoms.htm One of the symptoms of long-term untreated hypothyroidism is dementia and there are many people diagnosed with dementia who turn out to have nothing more than hypothyroidism. Please note the other mental symptoms on the list above. If you take hypothyroid dementia, mix it in with a little PTSD and a husband who had been (unbeknownst to me) previously diagnosed by a psychiatrist with narcissistic personality disorder, you're going to end up with a lot of weird crap, especially if the mental health professionals you're dealing with are incompetent--working outside the lines of accepted practice--and have a fixation on such things as MPD and satanic ritual abuse. I was diagnosed at 14 with mild hypothyroidism. I didn't understand the issues, and the diagnosis got lost in foster care, so I went a long time without treatment. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1768720;search_string=hypothyroidism;#1768720 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1834949;search_string=hypothyroidism;#1834949 I was pretty ill by the time it all got sorted out. But in all that time, not one single doctor ever did a simple blood test--even while I was pregnant. And too, for a period of time, I was alternately hypo and hyper because of the antibodies. So no, in spite of the cheap shot, dear, I don't have MPD, but I did go through years of hell because there are many, many incompetent medical professionals out there, and I had the ill-luck to run into a long line of them. As cheap shots go, this one was in the basement. I'm sure you'll be delighted to know how difficult it was for me to type this post, because my hands were shaking uncontrollably. To coin a phrase: "First do some harm." Congratulations. You're a success. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I'm starting to understand why RL is stalking you.

All this for what is a patently obvious misunderstanding of the point that was being made. It's no wonder to me that people go to war. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

P.S. I'm wondering if you acknowlege my source as being valid. Just curious. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I guess I'll just have to go back to Med School for a few more years Nice structured argument BTW. As someone who has been on the receiving end of some really shitty medical care--including a misfuckingdiagnosis of multiple sclerosis and multiple personality disorder for what was nothing more than Hashimoto's thyroiditis--your medical degree doesn't mean a whole lot to me, and if your bedside manner is anything like your posting demeanor, God help your patients. Maybe you should re-read the post... Is that your picture in your avatar? My point is that you don't have a weight problem. Maybe you should go and do some thinking now. Aren't you the guy who also said that "The majority of people could loose weight if they took the above steps and made a real effort. It does take work but it is pretty straight forwards." When you consider the vast number of "medical exceptions," the use of the word "majority" contradicts your parenthetical exception. Since giving unsolicted advice seems to be in vogue here, maybe you should go and do some reading now. I highly recommend How to Win Friends and Influence People. Further, on a doctor's salary, you should be able to afford to buy a spellchecker. And one more thing. Any old time you decide that you're able to have a discussion sans the snide and superior tone, I'll be happy to go along. Just let me know. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Yes, but you can't avoid me. I'm comin' for ya. Soon. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Sunny, You're beautiful, you're smart and you're funny. Those are just three of the outstanding qualities I see in you...and we've never even met. Don't ever let me hear you say such a thing ever again, or you will be in more trouble than you ever thought you could be. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Are you sure? Anyway, my answer to this question is... In some of the situations I've managed to get myself into, I've been a really bad receiver. There was a guy who was just insistent about doing certain things to me, and it was all so clinical...well...anyway...he kept telling me what I liked. It didn't matter if I told him I didn't like it. He was well-read, and he knew what women want in bed, and I was gonna get it all. Hokey-dokey. That was just one of many reasons the relationship didn't last long. I'm not happy with guys who want to show me how good they are. Sex happens on a lot of different levels, and when someone is so focused on their own performance, it just goes flat. I mean, passion is wonderful. I positively adore lust. And if it's someone I really love, the spiritual quality is wondrous. But sex is also supposed to be fun. And a performance mindset just ruins it for me. So my answer is, sometimes. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

With all that anonymity going on, it's going to be difficult to meet anyone. Ah well, You've got one on the east coast, one on the west coast and one in the middle. Better start planning your trip. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

It's never safe in threads where Airtwardo has been. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

He is too. And he appears to be quite fond of his wife (as well as proud). He just likes to pretend sometimes that he's a real man about town. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Don't tempt me. (You spelled "inversely" wrong.) If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

One doesn't have to sacrifice good nutrition or starve oneself (which as you pointed out doesn't work well in the longer term anyway). As you also correctly pointed out if you take in more than you burn off you will put on weight and the converse is also true. One can place themselves in deficit and they will loose weight (I'm not talking about medical exceptions here) fat people will have a slower metabolism and often a slower transit rate but this increases with exercise and healty eating. The majority of people could loose weight if they took the above steps and made a real effort. It does take work but it is pretty straight forwards. You're wrong. It's that simple. You're just wrong. Pirana got it. You don't get it. And it is this kind of myth that leads to trauma for the overweight every single day of their lives. I'm glad that you have a good metabolism that works as advertised. But not everyone does. Please do not make blanket generalizations from yourself to cover others who are simply not the same as you. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I guess I was wrong. 5% is about 14 million. I had to google for it. I read on this subject all the time, but I don't keep track of what I've read and when. http://fcs.tamu.edu/health/Health_Education_Rural_Outreach/Health_Hints/2003/june/thyroid_disorders.php Recent research from the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism suggests that nearly 5% of Americans suffer from undiagnosed thyroid disease, with more than 4% experiencing hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid). Because untreated thyroid disease may be associated with osteoporosis, cardiovascular disease, hyperlipidemia [high cholesterol], and neurological disease, these findings have broad implications for the health of Americans (The Endocrine Society, 2002b). Here's another article that estimates 2 million (but that's not a figure I've ever heard before and there is no source given for the number). http://cpmcnet.columbia.edu/dept/thyroid/disorders.html rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

You'll never learn. I just hope you have more luck than you have brains, because I'd still be sad to hear bad news. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

If I do start jumping again, it'll be a pleasure. But I hadn't heard that you are fat. I was under the impression that you're the large economy size, much like my daughter who towers over me. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Can I touch it? rl Yes. You may stroke it. Do not fear its awesome powers. You just stroked me out... If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Of course you can. 2 more months and its yours Woo hoo! Uh...funks, dear...are we talking about the same thing? If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I think I can stop posting in this thread now. The last time we had this argument, I quit because it was hopeless. The fact that even one non-fat person understands the issue is heartening. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Well, there are between 6 and 8 million people in this country alone with an undiagnosed thyroid disorder. Now, some of those people are hyperthyroid, so they're not likely to be fat, but a much larger percentage are hypothyroid, and they are all likely to have a weight problem to some degree or another. That doesn't take into account all the other medical conditions mentioned in the link I posted. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Can I touch it? OMG! I live in fear that someone is going to walk by while I'm laughing at my monitor. I'm supposed to be doing someone's will right now, but I have a meeting in 15 minutes, and I don't feel like doing anything else before it happens. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Yes dear. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb