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Mainly I don't see the point of constant attacks on other folks in this thread. I got tired of it, which is why I moved from active posting to mostly just reading this thread. And my friend and techie advisor Greg set me straight on some issues regarding AB and DZ, as it were. He was right about everything. I won't say I've NEVER come down hard on someone, but I try not to. The only one I ever got mad at really was Marla Cooper, but she wasn't here long anyway. People blame that on me, but the truth is she was busy elsewhere and didn't like those pointed questions. If not from me, sooner or later they would have come from someone else. You know...like when she said Agent Eng told her they were closing the case soon and that he told her he was sure LD was the hijacker. I never believed that. Getting work done: Since Friday I finished another 5,000 words on my new book. Not Cooperland. I have shelved that for now. This one is non-Cooper. Before that, it was 1,000 words in the space of two months. That's not writing, it's pecking out a word here or there. I was also getting little real work done with other authors except for Sandy McQ. Side Note/Non-Cooper: Just over a year ago, Auburn Days committee participant Brian Love was killed by a drunk driver right out in front of the place where we have the meetings. I'm not sure if anyone remembers this when I posted it originally. Everyone on the committee was very upset. Brian was loved by many. The guy who blasted his cab in downtown Auburn at 60MPH pleaded guilty today. Sentencing range: between ten years and thirteen years, one month in prison. It's expected the judge will give him the max because this guy had just been released from a ten year stretch for first degree assault. Hundreds of messages and letters are going in to the King County Victims org. Those are forwarded to the judge. I wrote one. Kept it simple. I said there was absolutely no mitigating circumstances for this Gonzalez guy. Brian Love's girlfriend lost the house because it was Love's cabbie job that paid the mortgage. She lost everything. The whole thing just sucked. To Georger: Next time you need a question answered about this or that feature on a 727 you might try eBay. Hell, they sell so many little parts there for a 727 it's possible to build your own Cooper Certified Aircraft. (that's a joke, although the part about eBay is not)

Exactly - you've nailed the issue at stake. Will fill in details later. Thanks. See what you can come up with in your manuals if you don't mind -

No such thing as a Cooper expert. They are all Cooper guessperts, myself included. 377 so what's your guess concerning the cockpit side of the interphone? speaker? no speaker?

who knows!? who can know!? All we do know is the day and the weekend existed, came and went. What these people did or did not do is totally unproven. He said she said another said this or that. Not one word from the principal parties involved and one of those is dead. IF someone said the other was with the other, maybe he was just covering for the other. There were marital problems going on with the one - that much is for certain. Maybe one spent the weekend with a girlfriend in Philadelphia? And his friend covered for him? Or maybe they were both off doing their own thing, then one covered for the other later, after a martial issue came up? No INDEPENDENT verification of anything, in any event. But it can be discussed ad nauseum for four years here! That much is certain and we have proof! ps: Anyone know if there was an intercom speaker in the cockpit of the airplane _ something you could actually hear if a person at the rear intercom pushed the button and said something? Or was it all over earphones, after a light came on in the cockpit indicating someone on the rear "interphone" was saying something? The system is referred to as an "interphone". ??? With all of the Cooper experts in residence surely someone knows something so mundane and basic to the Cooper story?

Blevins, I am Sorry, but this wishy washy statement had me ! Glad to see you are up and posting. What's the situation down there? Frankly was a little worried about you - G

Tokyo Bay? Reims? 377 Has anyone heard from Jo after the storms?

That's fine. I'm planning to be there. I only feel the need to respond to you when you make some sanctimonious comment. laying on a bit of public pressure to have the FBI actually check out Christiansen. Amazing! Just amazing. So Blevins finally admits he is a manipulator. So Gray did know what he was taking about! Sound familiar? Jo Weber-esque?

But, since you don't claim Lyle, you have no witness that will declare affirmatively that Kenny was involved in the hijacking. And, you have no interest in pursuing property records to support your financial claims. You're right. We shouldn't compare your claim to Marla's. Exactly! Marla opened herself up to examination. Blevins refuses to and argues on endlessly, and Blevins wont even get in the car and drive to the County records to prove he's full of shit! Blevins is more interested in protecting Blevins than anything else. Blevins will never back down! So get ready for a 50 year ride. Blevins will be in a Day Care still proclaiming and fighting. Hopefully they will drug him just to shut him up!

Sad but true. It is the best argument against the death penalty as the error then becomes irreversable. Can't let a dead man out of jail or give him a new trial. Blevins wrote a very compelling editorial arguing against the death penalty. One thing bothers me about Sheridan Peterson. It is clear (at least to me) that he did reside with Sailshaw for a brief period, even the FBI knew that fact. Why does Sheridan deny ever having know Sailshaw or lived in his house? Sailshaw (then a Boeing engineer) claims that Sheridan pumped him for info on the 727 ventral stairs. Sailshaw was working on the 737 and couldnt answer the questions. Sheridan then gets a job at Boeing in the technical documents department. It doesn't prove Sheridan was Cooper, not even close, but does raise eyebrows. And why has Sheridan pulled his book off the market. Try to find a copy now. he was once bemoaning the fact that so few copies had been read and it was offered for sale online. Now it's like it never existed. 377 Could all be pure synchronicity - at any given time a number of people are ALL working on the same or related problem/issues, for a variety of reasons. Maybe he was just beginning to think about jumping jets. Not do a hijacking. Investigators run into this kind of thing all the time. "Every invention has a thousand fathers". Most inventions can be shown to have had a number of independent inventors_some known some not known until later_some in the mainstream, some not in the mainstream. What distinguishes a "credited person" is he or she is the one who was able to carry a thing to a concrete conclusion ... and there is usually concrete evidence to prove the connection: like money in the closet, particle and fibre matches, dna or mtdna, etc. Subjective or anecdotal assertion of the Blevins-Marla kind just don't cut it. It has to be something 'material', but everyone with a brain already knows all of that ... Very likely you will never prove anything, unless Petey talks, or until the FBI decides to talk. Neither seems forthcoming any time soon.

You're not being realistic. I can name you half a dozen screenplays based on factual events that speculate a solution here or there. It's not a new concept in film or television, I assure you. BLAH BLAH BAH BLAH BLAH................................... In other words, we may not be able to hand them Kenny as Cooper on a silver platter, but we can certainly give them the key to where the silver is kept...

I didn't send Galen anything - I do NOT tolerate snakes. I know how to use a HOE if I have to. Remember I was raise on a farm. We all know you are secretly in love with Galen - have been for years - and wished a working relationship with him. Galen sends his regards.

been watching CNN .... stay dry Jo. Here's a link I use all the time: http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php Click on any State in the area you live in and the page will open to your closest USWS Doppler radar station .... Your area is clearing out finally, JO.

I guess you are targeting Galen Cook with your "bomb" Jo. Hell hath no fury like Jo Weber's. Just ask Ckret. So what did you do Jo that will bring Galen to his knees aplogizing profusely and begging for mercy? Fill us in. Where can we witness his surrender? Tokyo Bay? Reims? 377 Your post does NOT deserve an answer at all. The FBI will be made aware that others are representing themselves as acting on the behalf of the FBI & claim their information is from & sanctioned by the FBI. This involves multiple individuals! Why even bring Ckret up - I didn't! End of discussion. Jo ... you may have struck an empty house! I happen to know that Galen is on vacation ... and having a good time far away from Kooperlandt. Trust me on this!

Jo, I will say it again as I have said before, as Sluggo tried to tell you: If you had INDEPENDENT PROOF that Duane said, "I am Dan Cooper" on his deathbed, your road would have been smoother. If you can still produce INDEPENDENT evidence of Duane having said this clearly, a nurse, a witness, anything! .... then people would support you. There is no doubt about that. 377 and Sluggo and others have been at you for years to include this independent evidence _ I also! _ so the offer still stands. Produce the independent evidence you claim, and support will follow. Have not had tv on all day so don't know about your storm. Good luck and be safe whatever it is.

YOU Blevins are very wrong. Georger is not an attack dog for that other place. Georger is just being Georger. He tried to tell you something in the post he referenced, but for some reason certain things just fly over the cuckoo's nest in this case. LITERALLY! Well, let me simply replay Farflung's response to Blevins on the subject of Lyle's interview with Mike Simmons in 2007, following Gray's article on KC; and here we still are with daily recitations of pure fabrication being peddled by RobertMBlevins, the House Cleaner Guy (Its Time to Call Bob!) and putative editor/part owner of something called Adventure Books of Seattle run by somebody named Gayla Prociv who founded the HouseCleaning business! Farflung Sep 17, 2012, 1:29 AM Post #36279 of 52991 (20779 views) Re: [RobertMBlevins] Our Long Thread Nightmare Is Over [In reply to] Can't Post YOU asked for a ‘station’ and a ‘DJ’ for reasons unknown. You were supplied both and did as predicted; deflected, minimized and denied. No shock that the brother of YOUR prime suspect has said that the whole Kenny tale is fiction and bunk. You have the energy to prove Cook and Marla wrong but are rendered cripple regarding Kenny. I would suspect fraud and you know full well that Kenny is a joke, just like most others know this who ridicule and laugh at you. You show no concern about the truth as Lyle said Kenny was NOT Cooper in 2007 (that’s five years ago). You must apologize to Georger. Georger helped you be aware so you would not make a total fool out of years of interviewing LIVING, bat shit crazy people. You should thank Georger, right after you send him a nice fruit basket or some jerky like you owe Bruce Smith since you lied to him about the Co-pilot who you never interviewed because that was another fantasy which didn’t come true. You never called the Co-pilot who you lied about out of fear, the same way you fear calling Mike Simmons in Spokane regarding how Lyle lied about Kenny. My goodness, so many lies and so many fences to mend that were dry humped into oblivion. Where will you begin? Lyle said Kenny isn’t the guy, so should you. You don’t know Kenny better than Lyle (his LIVING brother) and he says that Kenny isn’t Cooper and that’s the end of that silly story. It’s time to bag and tag the sorry ass story of Kenny now. He’s dead you know. We all agree on that. You should verify what was broadcast on 920 AM by LIVING people in 2007. But you won’t. Because of fear and shame you feel. I’d be embarrassed too, but that’s why I don’t engage in that behavior, so I don’t have to make up….then cover for more lies than I can remember. Like hairy arms. Why would that piss someone off? Oh yeah, because they lied about it and got caught. Ha ha. Attachments: Wanted Accuracy.jpg (151 KB)

I don't know why, either. Your argument has no merit. Was I angry at Marla? Did I refuse to attend the Portland event because of her? Yes to both. And the reason was simple. You have all these people presenting this suspect, or that suspect. Maybe they are right, maybe not. But Marla was the only one with a planned agenda intended NOT to solve the case, or to add anything to it...but to cash in. I have presented more than enough evidence to prove that. Making money on Cooper? Me? That's a joke. Between the lost editing jobs (I get paid between $350 (ms spellcheck) and around $2,500 (complete book packaging from raw ms) for my editing work. Instead, I stopped doing that for over a year and tossed nearly $10,000 of my own money into checking out Christiansen. AB was weeks from going broke. We've made back less than that on the book, and that doesn't count the editing losses. And I still give it away free to anyone who emails and asks. There was also the time that the film production company represented by Paradigm's NY office offered us $25,000 for the complete rights to the KC story. I turned them down because they had plans to take serious liberties. (Looking back, I'm not sure if this was smart or not. Maybe I should have just done a Marla and taken the money.) Only Marla was in it strictly for money. I just wanted to find out if KC was the guy or not. And what she did hurt civilian investigators of the case, even today, even two and a half years later. Hell, I have more respect for Galen Cook than Marla. He may have made up a few things about me and Porteous in anger, but at least he has tried, and he hasn't lied about his investigation just to cash in with a big publisher. I will give him that. Robert, this is not a personal attack, but I gotta ask - aren't you now going to do exactly what Paradigm was going to do and take serious liberties with Kenny Christiansens story? Also, doesn't that kind of negate the whole "I just wanted to find out if Kenny was the guy" thing? I certainly respect your right to your opinion that KC was Cooper. But to move forward with a screenplay naming him as Cooper, when he hasn't been proven to be, seems slanderous to me. The guy isn't even considered a suspect. According to the title of your post, did you miss the part about: "I only thought it would be a good idea for a movie script" ? Lyle's radio interview with UWash Journalism prof, Simmons? Or, is RMB Santa Claus? Robert's first defense was to deny the program ever existed. Robert's second defense was to call Simmons & Cook LIARS! Robert's third defense was to call anyone who heard the program a LIAR! Therefore: Robert is Santa Claus.

How many more years do you plan to post up non-Cooper crap aimed only at OTHER posters. LOL. You did notice that some folks were asking me about Marla, making comments, etc right? I know that sort of posting is foreign to you and all. (A Cooper-related subject) But that's not really my problem is it, Georger? ------------------------------------------------------ 'The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is...' Winston Churchill Not my problemo either Rumpelstiltskin! Your gold fleece is a fake! Go back and READ!!!!!!!! what the poster said to you, then come back and launch a personal attack AT ME! It's your problem, and the question still stands: HOW MANY MORE YEARS ARE YOU GOING TO POST THE SAME SHIT................. that the poster responded to and you didn't read or answer! Don't forget Blevins. I can actually read and write! I don't have to fake it or fake personal abuse like you do!

I don't know why, either. Your argument has no merit. Was I angry at Marla? Did I refuse to attend the Portland event because of her? Yes to both. And the reason was simple. You have all these people presenting this suspect, or that suspect. Maybe they are right, maybe not. But Marla was the only one with a planned agenda intended NOT to solve the case, or to add anything to it...but to cash in. I have presented more than enough evidence to prove that. Making money on Cooper? Me? That's a joke. Between the lost editing jobs (I get paid between $350 (ms spellcheck) and around $2,500 (complete book packaging from raw ms) for my editing work. Instead, I stopped doing that for over a year and tossed nearly $10,000 of my own money into checking out Christiansen. AB was weeks from going broke. We've made back less than that on the book, and that doesn't count the editing losses. And I still give it away free to anyone who emails and asks. There was also the time that the film production company represented by Paradigm's NY office offered us $25,000 for the complete rights to the KC story. I turned them down because they had plans to take serious liberties. (Looking back, I'm not sure if this was smart or not. Maybe I should have just done a Marla and taken the money.) Only Marla was in it strictly for money. I just wanted to find out if KC was the guy or not. And what she did hurt civilian investigators of the case, even today, even two and a half years later. Hell, I have more respect for Galen Cook than Marla. He may have made up a few things about me and Porteous in anger, but at least he has tried, and he hasn't lied about his investigation just to cash in with a big publisher. I will give him that. ----------------------------------------------------------- 'The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is...' Winston Churchill (This post was edited by RobertMBlevins on Apr 29, 2014, 10:45 PM) How many more years do you plan to post about this here? 2? 5? 15?

I hope the NBA treats the flip side of the coin in the same manner. After all, they want to live by a single standard, right? Matt You probably have a good point but what it is? White players get equity? What's the flip side? There is a reason any race winds up in sports or some other venue of life ... it's usually the venue open to them. Liek Chinese used to have to do manual labor (railroads), same with the Irish (manual labor), Italians ???, Swedes ???, Poles ???, ... Indians got the reservation! My ancestors on the other hand have always been Royalty, a special people, going clear back to the Pleistocene. We had that covenant thing; the rest had another covenant thing. But covenants none-the-less going clear back to Konan-Georger Ordinaire III. We always had speech and writing _ on rocks and sheeps hides. and if you believe that I have some swampland for sale too! Yee shall earn thy keep by the sweat of thy brow saithe the Lord - none are exempt!

NBA bans Clipper's owner Don Sterling - FOR LIFE! Sterling may not participate in any of the functions of his team or even be in team facilities! ... controlled by the NBA. He may not attend games, for example! He may not even sell his team under NBA auspices! Sterling has been fined $2,500,000.00 dollars. It's being called an unprecedented WOW! moment in NBA history. This after an NBA meeting and a polling of team owners and coaches.

And I told you what I thought five times over three years - go back and read the thread. It's just one more case that you dont accept what people say. I guess you are so dense and so self-occupied you just don't read what people say and mean, even when they say it over and over and over. All you want to hear is what you want to hear, not what people are saying! In addition, hard as it is for you to believe, you were not the only swinging Jericho looking and examining Marla! You were in fact just one. The most VERBOSE ONE to be sure. But I and others were concentrating on what others less verbally active were saying and doing .... you just missed that in favour of your own story. That's your fault - not ours. And your own story and claims about KC were falling apart right in front of you at the same time! The story of Marla and her downfall is NOT the story of YOU! Not by a thousand light years. You just want to take credit for it! At the end of it all your own KC story is still in shambles. So what have you gained? Nothing. You are further behind than when you started by most people's accounting.

Imagine how Marla could have benefitted from your talent Robert had you not decided to pop her story. 377 Everyone with a brain realised early that Marla's story had holes in it! Popping what was obvious was/is not much of a "pop". Marla's story popped itself! Nobody discovers square wheels are not round! Meanwhile Blevins' own KC story was being "popped" even as he popped away at Marla! That is the beauty of hypocrisy. Even more interesting that the investigator hasn't touched Jo's story, with a 1000 yard pop stickle even as it has sat there being run daily for years right in front of the investigator's nose ..... with hard evidence available right in his own State! Even personal witnesses and tapes of phone conversations, including a retired FBI guy, or three or five or seven ! Apparently some stories have to fall like 500lb corpses into one's lap before being noticed? I guess Marla's story just had better younger hips? So popping is as popping does. And not all pops are alike. One standard of pops for one - a different standard for others. Whatever greases the wheels of poppage for some but not for others. Why rock the boat when the boat is conveying your own carcass across the stormy seas! Everything is political!

Not Yrs. - Just since your real name was published in Grays book! so. Gray's book was Published August 9th 2011. Today is April 29, 2014. 14 minus 11 = 3 years. And you were alleging connections between me and Duane in 2008 after I joined! You said I and people I knew had information about the uniformed man in your mystery photo you and Duane took in Utah. Then you bugged me about some photo of a child you said was Tina Mucklow in an album you said Duane had .... And your curse goes on and on and on ..... all launched from Dropzone.com.

Say what? Are you now connecting Georger and Duane? That's even more amazing than Duane's JFK, RFK and MLK connections. Care to disclose any supporting evidence Jo? 377 Well the post is titled: Gibberish. Ive noticed Jo trying to make this connection for years and just never responded to it. Its ludicrous and funny. I just let Jo blather .... because I know saying anything is pointless. Likewise any assertion by anyone that Cook and I are a team doesn't know 'squat' about Galen Cook, or me. It's just one more piece of Dropzone "smut". There never seems to be an end to it! Jo is just upset that Galen finally cut her off - no more Jo Weber phone calls accepted, as Galen explains it. Jo just doesn't like people saying "no" to her. Jo evidently thinks Dropzone is her cotton plantation and people need to jump when called! You've been making some good posts here lately, 377. Who knows. Maybe they will cool people down ? Off topic: Did you also notice this in the news? Some good forensic work is flowing from this - plus a few geneticists have already issued opinions on the possibility of extracting mtdna. http://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2014/apr/23/shakespeare-diary-john-baret-quadruple-dictionarie Note the New Yorker link in the above. (a non Gray article)

Come on, Georger. That makes absolutely no sense. What people are trying to tell you, in my humble opinion, is that your each and every post for some time now... ...has been all about harping on everyone and almost anyone who posts practically anything. I'll give you this much. You don't play favorites. You pretty much go after everyone equally. And sometimes people are going to come back on you about that, as I did earlier when I referred to what you used to do for a living. In reality, I'm sure you were a fine instructor/teacher etc. But I said that to try and wake you up a bit. Are people at the Alternate Cooper Website putting you up to this stuff? Because they can't do it? Because they are either banned or 'on vacation'? If so, you are being manipulated. ***"What's 'vacation' mean, Mama?" "It means you go somewhere...and you don't NEVER come back."