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I think Jerry is US Army retired, Special Forces. Sheridan Peterson was a Marine. 377 Wether he is a retired Marine, Special Forces or a Park Ranger doesn't friggin matter to me. He still comes off as a stalker IMHO. Regardless of what one thinks of Jo Webber she still is an old woman who doesn't deserved to be tracked down like a wild animal to the point where she feels threatened. Are you giving a speech in Portland also?

13 Sept 2011 - "Why did Bernard Geestman (alleged accomplice) say on History Channel that he thought Kenny was the hijacker...AFTER he called the book a work of fiction and me a liar? " So Geestman is a wholeaale liar, but is also one of Blevins primary witnesses and telling the truth (on the one ocassion). This is an example of how Blevin's analysis is deeply flawed and a house of cards. What is being registered by Blevins truth analysis? Truth and the truth of Geestman, or Blevin's personal feelings at being jerked around by Geestman! ? Because it is obvious Blevins plays it both ways, depending on the situation. What is missing is an independent measure of truth and consistency in Blevins truth-detector process. And its all Blevins and nobody else. I suspect Geestman is actually irrelevant in Blevins' truth process. It could be anybody! The trigger seems to be lack of cooperation (or tangling with) Mr. Blevins. That's all it takes. That means there is no analysis at all. (Just as there was no real analysis in Dvorak & Myers's work). It's a common error that amateur truth sleuths make coupled with "Large Claims"! The same thing applies to the "25-reasons". These are not "reasons" which have any causative or logical force based on proven facts, but mere "personal opinions, reactions, and allegations" on Blevins' part. Kenny was a convenient target. He couldnt talk back - he's dead! If Geestman trully was Kenny's friend, that may be one of the actual "reasons" for Geestman's responses/reactions to Blevins. To wind up in someone's History Channel Decoded Show only makes matters worse. It's amazing Geestman showed up at all. But Teddy stood his ground and got interviewed also. There must be a pattern at work! They can't both be DB Cooper for prime time sweeps ? - of course they can.

[ For the record: I have met Geoff Gray. He is a nice guy. We get along fine. . You posted too quick, sillyman. Better back up and read it all ... corrected and amended. You use me being banned as a shield from which to attack behind! Maybe you will be banned! ? For your information, sillyman, even Larry got banned for a brief period here. If Gray and you get along as you describe then somebody is a liar and a hypocrit posing for the media. You preach about civility but then dont practice what you preach, Rev. Blevins. Get off your cross, Blevins! PS: Just got this from a DZ reader who says: Quote: "I took a peek at the DZ tonight. You nailed it. The reason I pretty much tuned-out is because of Blevins. Others too. He's an obnoxious prick who knows everything and the DZ just isn't interesting anymore with Blevins in the game. There is no longer any deep-rooted discussions about theories or evidence, because every time someone tries to launch one, Blevins jumps in and spoils the conversation for his own benefit ......... and I don't even know what the "benefit" would be.....because Blevins knows almost nothing and according to my sources Blevins hasn't even sold 300 books. He can't give them away according to a book dealer in Seattle. So, Blevins is just happy as shit that he has any audience of a few from time to time at DZ. I wish he would keep his off topic BS to himself and let people alone to talk freely! Seems to be the last thing he will allow as if he was in charge! Later.. hang in there. "

Geoff Gray is a nice guy. I've met him and we get along fine. You certainly have nerve saying that. . Im just stating a fact. A fact repeated by Geof Gray several times, in fact. Maybe both of you are a couple of liars? Im just staing what Geof Gray said (his evaluation with examples) on several ocassions and he was very specific and does not like or trust you (in the extreme) - Geof seemed to have several very specific examples in mind. And to be crystal clear about this, homeboy, I am not the only pone he gave the same evaluation to. People have shared notes, silly man. Everyone knows its a risk being here with you, just as it is Jo Weber. That is why I have always said you two are similar and the basis of the comparison. Compared to the "nerve", ie. gall,. you have displayed here my saying the above requires no nerve at all, nor is it inappropriate or untrue, in your case. Its well deserved and all true. Because nobody is as stupid as you pretend to be or if they are ... God help us! I thought you had settled own but then you attacked on 9-11 again, of all days, and accused me of avoiding your question(s) because I said I would be gone for ten hours (to attend a 9-11 memorial!)? You and Geof Gray sort it out. As for the rest of your "shit". Go fuck yourself.

And what Geof Gray said about you when I asked who you were - is not fit to print - and that's a fact, Jacko. Turns out he had you nailed, just as others have described you. So, you can stop with the Voice orf Authority act, silly man.

You have it all wrong. They were talking about my cat. And who are 'people?' This is not good. If you had met my cat, you would understand. 'Siame' might actually go looking for them. Hey Blevins: why dont you take your mental issues to a therapists office and get off the Internet? suggestion... Sure. I might even see you around. I hear the therapist's office is across the street from the Anger Management office. We can wave at each other through the windows. (*laughs*) Not likely. You wont be waving with handcuffs and a suicide vest on! TYrying to skin and cook a chicken on the floor of the therapist's office. However thanks for confirming you really have taken overe this forum - in crazy Weber's absence. You never miss a opportunity to advance by pissing and marking "your" territory. Good luck you giant Troll nothing. Who fucked you up = your Mommy or your Daddy? Or was it drugs?

You have it all wrong. They were talking about my cat. And who are 'people?' This is not good. If you had met my cat, you would understand. 'Siame' might actually go looking for them. Hey Blevins: why dont you take your mental issues to a therapists office and get off the Internet? suggestion... And WHY!? does an author like Geof Gray have anything to do with a piece-of-shit like you? What's the answer, idiot?

Master RobertMBlevins (robot): Can you give us a date by which you plan to take-over this forum and send everyone packing and extinguish it to your own personal use? Who designed you? Snowmman? 377? You have WAY too much time on your hands. Let's face it. You are becoming redundant. Every time I post up something, no matter what it is, you have an insult waiting. Yada yada yada from Mr Jerry Warner. I'm willing to bet that even some of the other folks who post here are tired of reading your latest yada. I think you are in need of a serious vacation. Either that, or you might need to cut down on the caffeine. (*laughs*) Besides, Mr Warner...in the world of insults you are an amateur. You should see the emails I get. Some of those are REALLY imaginative. So why are people calling you an ASSHOLE, a "prick", and "mentally derranged"? Beats me!

Master RobertMBlevins (robot): Can you give us a date by which you plan to take-over this forum and send everyone packing and extinguish it to your own personal use? Who designed you? Snowmman? 377?

Well, I don't remember teasing anyone regarding 'soon to be released blockbuster evidence'. I've already presented the case on Christiansen. Book and The Short Version. I haven't done any more interviews and I am no longer actively investigating the case, although I'm willing to discuss it. Basically, AB has moved on to other projects. I'm going to show up at Ariel, but that's about it. The only thing new I have on KC in some time is this: Two FBI agents out of Boston who have previously worked with Skipp Porteous asked for a few items from him. Copy of KC's Army discharge, some of the pictures in the book in full size, and a couple of copies of the book itself. Porteous sent these items along with another copy of the list of the true names and addresses of the witnesses in the book. After examining these items (all this happened about two months ago) the agents sent them on to the Seattle FBI. I haven't heard anything since, and don't expect to. ok. I see a pattern here.

Oh... Yeah, yeah. Ken Christiansen could have been the skyjacker. Almost forgot. (*laughs*) Wouldn't want people to say I went off-topic. Woo hoo. RobertMBlevins(@), You vastly underestimate the FBI's power to ignore Christiansen stuff. You'll see. They won't do a thing besides a yawn. You've been teasing about soon to be released blockbuster evidence for years. You never deliver the goods. We've all grown accustomed to your MO. (above borrowed from 377 w/o his permission)

Jo, You vastly underestimate the FBI's power to ignore Duane stuff. You'll see. They won't do a thing besides a yawn. You've been teasing about soon to be released blockbuster evidence for years. You never deliver the goods. We've all grown accustomed to your MO. 377 Jo doesnt care - it just for public consumption. The whole thing may have been for public consumption with Jo always probing to see how far she(this) would go. Gray made an interesting observation - Jo is very organised. Jo may have been in control all along and knowing the limits involved. Jo even has groupies and cult fans! Usually, the leader of a flock must have good vision and perceptual acuity ? Yes? But great post anyway - may I borrow this?

Are you a man for all seasons or just a Bottom feeder? Cough it up if you know so much about Tom! I'd like to hear it, Momar. Where is Gadhafi? Take your time Momar - I wont be back for at least 10 hours. I have a life, unlike you! You may have a life and all, sure. But you didn't answer the question. Running away from that question (your theory on the money) by saying 'I'll be gone for ten hours' is IMHO pretty frickin' lame. You are big on picking on theories, but it's obvious you haven't any of your own. Or if you do, you are afraid to take the heat for those theories. Either way...still lame. Master: Rather than go through this shit any more - I now concede that RobertMBlevins has fired me from my position and knows more about the Cooper case and 1980 Money Find than I do, and always did, and I "aint got nuthin"; And that RobertMBlevins is now Tom Kaye's spokesperson and holds the true keys to all matters Tom or anyone else needs to know. Good luck to Tom and Robert's science team. The forum and everyone else should now turn to Mister RobertM 'Hollywood' Blevins for all information regarding these matters. Sadly I say..... Es iz nit geshtoygen un nit gefloygen . (translation: you cant roller skate in a herd of Blevins.)

Okay, Mr Smart Guy. You've spent a lot of time shooting down theory after theory. Let's hear YOURS. And you can stop picking on Tom Kaye anytime now. We both know WHY you may have certain resentments about him, right? Are you a man for all seasons or just a Bottom feeder? Cough it up if you know so much about Tom! I'd like to hear it, Momar. Where is Gadhafi? Take your time Momar - I wont be back for at least 10 hours. I have a life, unlike you!

I still say there is NO POOF! I agree completely - no proof whatever of anything Jo Weber has ever said. The only proof is that she said everything she has said, which is a lot by any standard stretching out DECADES! Liking Jo Weber is not proof of anything except you like and support Jo Weber.

RN99 replies: Incidentally, I do have some experience with how sand is influenced by flowing rivers including the Columbia (actually, it was mainly experience in a river that flowed into the Columbia a few miles later). Blevins writes: I believe Tom Kaye hit on something with his simple fan test and by discovering that the numbers on the bills were still aligned, even to the point that the ink from those numbers bled into each other perfectly. This does NOT point to the money being washed around anywhere from anywhere else. reply] Dont be too quick to assign great meaning to print being perfectly aligned? as evidenced? by 'bleeding directly-perfectly' between bills perfectly aligned?. Its all too circular. What guarantees the bleeds occurred after Cooper jumped and not before? Would bills piled in stacks at any bank show bleeding between bills? BTW it takes a set of conditions for bleeds to happen one of which is temperture. Was there something special that happened after Cooper bailed that would cause cross bill bleeding, in pefect alignment, perhaps something specific to Tina Bar or some other location ? All Im saying is there has to be more to the story, and something which escaped the FBI's analysis of the bills at Quantico? Jo was quick to jump on this suggesting it has something to do with chemicals in paint cans ... or Duane's PKD medication? Maybe the Weber Effect ? Things just happen out of thin air in and around Duane and Jo. Has any sign of Ice Cube been found in the money and was Duane trained by Ice Cube as say a rap artist? The bundles or portions of bundles (as distinct from bills in bundles) that were found, were not perfectly aligned when found and that is a fact. The Ingrams pryed portions of bundles apart on their kitchen table trying to get to individual bills that could be turned into a bank for a refund. What in the inks bled and what did not bleed? Silicon. Iron? What exactly does this bleeding consist of? There was some order in some of the bills found - that I agree. Just not the wholesasle perfect order (especially of bundles) now being interpreted because of Tom's remarks. Remarkable claims require remarkable evidence.

It's even possible that some OTHER kid (besides Brian Ingram) on that Tena Bar beach found the money first and playfully buried it in the sand. Who knows? RN99 replies: You are kidding aren't you? Interesting Blev would only focus on children finding money - apparently adults inhis view are too stupid to find it at Tina Bar prior to Brian! So we are told or not told, or anyone knows - as the case may be. But once again Hollywood Blevins runs off at the mouth about things he knows literally nothing about in spite of Tom feeding him info (which I thought in advance would be useless remediation). Blevins is not in this to be educated but to do his Hollywood thing. Remediation? Forget that.

Proof he asks!? Apparently the poster cannot read. As to your deficeit? Incurable at your age & the technology does not yet exist. You will have to live with it, I guess. And so young too. Damned shame.

Yes there was a landing EAST of I-5 - and I would put my life on the line on this! Jo, How long had the fragments of money that were found under two FEET of sand been there? How long had the bills that were found under two INCHES of sand been there? For starters, I would suggest different lengths of time. And that means that the money deposition at Tina Bar was a repeatable event. So you are now claiming that Duane buried money at three different locations including near the Portland Airport. The last I remember, you were only claiming that Duane threw a paper sack, contents unknown, into the Columbia River. I have not read anything by Cook (Galen Cook?) and have no idea what his theory may be. Jo, If you are betting your life on a landing east of I-5, then I would suggest that you get your affairs in order. This will go nowhere, as you well-know. Jo is not going give up her con game. She enjoys the positive side of her celebrity too much and the world is too ambivalent to stop her, faced with its own problems. Everyone is persuing their own ideology. The gridlock must continue because it is sickenly delicious in a free range perversion of reality, and Jo knows and relies on that! Duane's terrorism of the world continues . . . Will ANGLE UDELL STOP IT! ? Angels are funny that way. They enable and save you one minute then lop your head off the next. And not even Jo Weber can predict what Angle Udell is thinking and going to do! Jo will laugh at my saying this. But she knows I am correct and experienced. Jo made a critical mistake inventing Angel Udell. Now she must un-invent the Angle and she can't! Angels have their own way with things ... even Paul Quade knows that! Its common knowledge. I didnt invent this about stuffing angels back in a box once losed. My advice is everyone stand out of the way while a pillar of salt and her stories goes poof! No need for collateral damage. That's my advice. The stories and the person became one. Jo's own words were: Yes there was a landing EAST of I-5 - and I would put my life on the line on this!

To quickly recap a few things, isn't the entire search based on only a few things...flight path (unknown for certain), point of departure (also unknown), findings of Dr. Palmer, and physical description of Cooper by the stewardesses? . How is the FLIGHT PATH based on 'findings of Dr. Palmer, and physical description of Cooper by the stewardesses?' Why do you omit bleach and the Magna Carta?

Have no fear - this thread has nothing to do with DB Cooper - there is noting to expose.

Now go put your head in a bucket of water and count to 100. . I refuse!

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Amazon, Please note that Jo was talking about the highway between the Bridge of the Gods and Vancouver. I have never driven between the Bridge of the Gods and the area of the intersection of I-82 and I-84 west of Pendleton. So if the higher elevations that you mention are in that stretch of WA Hwy 14, I will concede the point. If not, I'll still concede the point but now I have to figure out why I didn't notice the higher elevations on Hwy 14. I think the pont is: Jo does know what mountains vs hills vs Florida saw grass is (are). Remember: Jo is a saavy Kentucky girl. They knew what relativity was before Einstein did! The rest is: FOR SALE-smanship. Jo can create "jobs" faster than moonshine boils.

even Georger knew what it was if he indeed spent many yrs in WA. reply] Ive never lived in the State of WA! More false info being spread by landlord HOMES4YOUBYJO, in this Weber tenement. How high will the rent get!