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yeah but if he mentions skydivers and commitment again you go ahead and at least cough "bullshit". wanna borrow my magaphone? . glen

It is sad but I have sandles older than that! Glen

No don't leave us, what will shotgun do without you. Honestly selling parts in the aircraft business is NOT aviation, I think you know this. And like someone posted before railroad careers are better than gobment jobs. You are at the age now where your retirement bucks are really kick'n ass in a field that pays that benifit properly not justs promiss's to. Unless you are going to get some big inheritance I say build your future where you are doing it now, loaf later. You have long days off, and you are single so you can visit any DZ ( even outside Nevada) that you want too. You know better than I how this other business is topsytervy at its best. There is something to not really liking what you do and hating your co-workers is it that bad? Its your decision but I think and others that know you personnally will say you got a good lifestyle and some good friends too. glen

Was San diego going today? Glen

QuoteBig way camp Dan BC, Kate Cooper and Tony Domenico are doing another big way camp in Eloy this March. I went last year and can highly recommend it for anyone who even thinks they might want to do big ways. They teach everything you need to know to safely be a part of a 100+ way formation, and it is also an excellent opportunity to be "seen" by some of the top large formation organizers in the world. What about someone with very little experience or from another discipline? How would you recomend they approach this? How much 4-way, 8-way or other bellyflying milestones. I personally know some guys doing 20 and 30 ways for weekend joy, but I don't know what it takes to get there. Glen

I personally think the spectre is better than any thing I flew during AFF. Maybe its too " turny " for students but I feel I could have gone to it sooner. Loved mine want to get another. And at the same time world class vidiots fly them loading them as high as 1.9 and doing 520 degree high performance landings. Glen

Learn to play some Micheal Hedges. He is on the label Windham hill. Passed on a few years back, too bad. He would detune the standard guitar into a multitude of unusual tunings then perform finger slaps sliding harmonics and percussive strumming to make an acoustic sound like a complete orchestra. But if thats too hard there is always smoke on the water..... Glen

Then you are definately not going to like being point on a squad in a real life or death conflict in some shitwhole somewhere. Come to think of it I don't think I would like it either, and I'm crazy. Glen

Actually isn't Ron called the hedgehog?.........Glen Ciels- Michele

Yah now he just has to master the voice of " Kermit the frog here" and he will be just fine at any adult swing gathering.........Glen

Jumped at perris,with Jim Wallace. Drew, Tom, Cameron and some producer or maybe boyfriend. Heard it was Drew's Idea. Also heard Tom wasn't Quite his usual smart ass. Woulda like to be the video guy on that one. " Tom tell your mom and dad you are sorry for all the gags you've done to them, just kidding" Ya I like Tom Glen

Exactly but more specifically a freighter, something that can do the kesel run in less than twelve parsecs, can out run the big correllian cruisers something even fast for me......Glen

I think you're going to have to be continuously breaking the speed limit by quite a bit if you want to drive from Eloy to Perris in 5 hours. Figure 390 miles @ 78 mph. Dude thats just cruse speed for me: 90 is speeding. But that is only in the greater metropolitan. Take me out side these cities and we got a real game. Course the cops in ZONA don't take kindly to speeders. But they be lookin for you on the in bound lanes not the to LA lanes go for it! Glen

Get both! they're cheap to put on. Then decide which to keep after a lengthly personal performance evaluation. Glen

If she's not stable, then don't dock. Oh no I've been doing this wrong all these years. I've allways been told the unstable ones were the BEST dockers. Glen

We need an intervention. The WFFC will snap you right out of,,,,,,This Glen

You know you are right Tom . I was thinking about it even before Lisa replied I figured out that there is probably a person willing to take a racer or wonderhog and base it without knowledge. What I'm getting at is that your comment about regular skydivers being the most likely to hurt or kill themselves rubbed me the wrong way. I would tend to believe a regular skydiver would have at least a glimmer of an idea of whats required to do a real base jump, and probably more than the average wuffo. And I wouldn't want to jump with a skydiver that didn't. A great many jumpers take a leap from 13k very seriously. Its difficult to accept that one would take a more perilous leap from below 2k very lightly. PS: Flailing is just another form of expression and I'll also jump with you, as long as you are not dumb enough to take a wonderhog to base jump without any prior mentoring. Glen.

[However, the average reader of this site will have just enough knowledge and gear (i.e. skydiving gear and some number of airplane skydives) to really hurt themself. Tom who are YOU jumping with back at the DZ, when you do go to the DZ? Also, someone who is underqualified to BASE jump (and hence likely to hurt themself trying), but really wants to jump, will probably search sites like BLiNC, rec skydiving, and DZ.com looking for sites. They are somewhat less likely to just sit around looking for re-runs of RealTV, hoping to find a BASE site. Didn't these guys go away with the low pullers of years gone by? I don't know about other DZs but we got a ton of resources for the RIGHT way to start in BASE and haven't heard of anybody I know going into it without at least seeking mentoring. But on the other hand I have seen a great deal of base jumpers challenging the tactics and ethics of other VETERAN base jumpers. I guess the bottom line is that the average reader of a skydiving or BASE web site is in far greater personal danger from the site knowledge (and is a far greater danger to the site as a result of having it), than is the average viewer of RealTV. WOW all this to protect the average skydiver, or maybe just protect a site from being overused. Glen What do you call...? Actually, I usually call it "that popular East coast span," or "the popular West Virginia span." Not to be confused with the "popular West coast span", or "the popular legal span in the potato state." I've got a giant lexicon of euphemistic site names.

I bring both my upper and lower wings in and wait a nano sec before I briskly deploy. I do this pause because when my wings come in there is a change in my body's angle of pitch and I don't want to introduce a yawing movement at the same time. Then collaps my wings and arch my body in a pseudo base exit pose. The arch is reduced to just knees bent as the harness takes up my weight. Legs still closed so that my leg wings don't become a sail and start a twisting movement untill my slider is down. I like this better than deploying in a full track to minimize the trap door effect. With the exception of one helicopter jump pulling at three, I usually pull at four. I'm on a classic and can't say this would work on a GTI or Skyflyer. Glen

High= Helo bird man jump from 4.9k pulling @3. Low= I'm so high I can't think of any. Glen

Very nice Lisa, seeing you two hang out on Saturday I thought that she had other plans for you but hey a rig is good too. A just try to keep it out of the pond. Don't sweat the age of the rig either. Glen

Wattaya work at Nellis or sumptin? Glen

Hey have you used your rig yet ? Glen

Which ones do you have Lisa? Glen

Yup I was affraid of this. I'm no swooper and don't do anything other than a little carve on approach, so I guess I'll stick to little joggles in heading for fear of getting too sideways and not being able to get back under it. Glen