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I view the message as a product to sell. You want to hit people from all angles, and not any one angle exclusively. It is not like I am on the street with a sign recommending passers-by go rent the documentary film, Earthlings. I posted on a forum with a plentiful following, respectively, and where a lot of written information with links to sources has already been provided. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

I could not agree more.

I watched in two parts. I really wanted to "get it over with" all at once, but had a really tough time. I am happy I split it up because it covers a lot of material, and it was best to have a rest period to re-group and stay focused. I definitely think splitting it up in two to four parts is the way to go. I am OK with anyone eating meat & dairy, but would highly recommend and appreciate if they first looked into where it comes from and learn how that particular farm/business operates from the moment the animal is born to the time it ends up on someone's plate. If one wants to eat meat and dairy, I recommend checking out Local Harvest. I also really love Whole Foods Market because it gives people a way to get closer to their local farms in a traditional, familiar setting and way of shopping. It is a great step in the right direction, imo. Also for me, Whole Foods has the best variety of vegan options and alternatives (you know, stuff that actually tastes good or like the "real thing") and makes buying household products not tested on animals a lot easier and more convenient. I find the produce section is much better, too, with a ton of variety. For me the film really helped me get over my personal temptations in a way that simply reading about the processes could not. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

I think a lot more people would find the status quo unacceptable if they knew how unnecessary all of the suffering shown in the film is. For example, with regard to animal-testing: Most people falsely believe the majority of animal-testing is necessary to help humans in some way, thus having accepted this "necessary evil" they choose not to learn about--much less witness--what goes on in an animal-testing laboratory. In their minds--to use your example--why would seeing the gory and brutal image make any difference in the reality? Seeing such an image, however, would make most people cringe and ask themselves "Isn't there an alternative? Isn't there a better way?" Perhaps they might do some research and learn the answer is: Yes! It is about taking a look at something awful (that we as humans control) and not turning away, but rather asking questions, learning and discovering alternatives. It is_not_about going vegan. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

I would probably turn away as well. I do not believe the act of watching Earthlings--in and of itself--makes me or anyone else who watches a better person. After viewing the documentary, however, one might make decisions or take a course of action that makes them feel better or helps better/improve upon the status quo. I would argue your latter point, however, regarding understanding reality by witnessing it firsthand. Agree. I have no problem turning away to avoid watching the shark eat the seal. Again, you are trying to compare accepting natural vs. un-natural things. I think it opens a window to an otherwise-well-kept-undercover reality. A reality that rests in our hands (vs. the shark eating the seal) to learn about & improve upon. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

Has anyone seen it? Super-difficult to watch. There are certain emotions I manifest physically without being able to help myself. I nearly barfed on several occasions. My mouth remained dry and my eyes dripping tears the entire time. But, I watched and never closed my eyes or turned away. It is important to see. I read about the factory-farm norm all the time. Before the narrator would describe what was happening, I knew. But--just as a picture speaks a thousand words--there is no comparison to reading vs. seeing. It is a super-tough film to watch, but I would recommend it to everyone. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

Concur, with emphasis on Tuesday. I tend to have another drink or two of a Sunday and Tuesdays are less busy anyways.

Never heard of it, but sounds revolting.

This being a Bonfire-sharing-though-no-one-likely-cares-type thread: I like reservations, because I do not like to wait. In fact, I refuse to wait for anything. I am royally impatient--and I know it--so I go online and make the reservation or appointment, or whatever it is I am wanting to do. I purchase upgraded tickets to bypass lines. This is how I roll. But, I am with you about wanting to be seated sans masses. I do not like crowds or being in the thick of things. I was never a "bar-hopper" as is so popular with many people and even charity events--I always just donate my money and skip the hop-fest. If I find a comfy spot with good company I like away from the riff-raff one would have to pay me to leave. Again, just how I roll. For the record, though, I would never call myself a "diva". "High-maintenance", maybe. But for me that is just another word for a woman who knows what she likes and does not compromise.

After a shrooming-good appetizer, no doubt. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

I do not have kids, but largely concur. If I had children, I know I would make a big effort in growing my own produce and involving them. I am god-mommy to a beautiful boy whose amazing-mommy does all of that and more! My daddy did sort of the opposite. As a child, I was a rarity. I loved my veggies (though, canned) and did not like butter, milk or mayonnaise (which in our home was Miracle Whip). So, my father made me a grilled-cheese sandwich. It was HEAVEN. Then he told me he buttered the outside of the bread, "mayonnaised" the inside of the bread and loaded with cheese. It is still one of my favorite points he made to me--not because he got me to eat dairy-shit I otherwise did not want (even at such a young age--I think I was six-years-old), but--well, it is a good lesson about judgment. At least that was how I took it.

Agree!

While it is easy for me to avoid all land-animal meat, I have always loved seafood. I do not over-indulge, but salmon is a weakness for me; I admit. Farmed is NOT the same. Generally, however, I avoid any over-fished seafood, in addition to avoiding any from Canada or any that is not turtle and dolphin-safe. Whole Foods makes it easy to support my Key West fisherman.

I love Alaska--by far one of my favorite vacation spots, despite being a royal tropical girl. As far as produce, I would LOVE to just pick wild blueberries and huckleberries from my backyard. Where I live along the eastern-Florida coastline we ride bikes in the undeveloped communities and certain times of year spot blackberries we eat. But, while I enjoy gardening, I am not yet at that point in my life where I want to make an effort to grow my own produce. Sure, it was fun experimenting with peppers. I would save a ton of money if I could grow my own avocados. But, I am freshly 29-years-old and do not want to tend to a garden in the sweltering August-in-Florida heat. Even at the beach where it is 10-degrees cooler, I would rather be in the ocean. I know I will have a wonderful garden one day, though. I always loved working with my all my grandmas in their gardens when I was little--be it flowers, tomatoes, corn or otherwise. I wouldn't know much about Florida blue crab. I don't eat anything boiled alive. I can tell you, though, if there were abalone along the coastline where we walk daily, I would be eating a LOT of abalone. Jealous!

It is just so freaking cute. I still giggle ever time I click on the photo. I do not know why I think it is so funny, but it makes me smile.

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This made me giggle! "While visiting Banff National Park in Canada, two park visitors put their camera on a rock and set the camera's timer. The noise of the camera focusing caught the attention of a curious ground squirrel, who popped up in front of the camera in time for the click of the shutter." Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

Tsotsi was wonderful. I have seen the trailer for District 9 and warily put it in my queue... It is unclear what the OP was looking for in a movie, and you seem to be about the message. Me? I am not one to go for Hollywood special effects and fast-action scenes (though the Bourne movies were pretty good

One of my FAVORITE snack dishes is a salsa fresca with cilantro: In a large bowl combine two eight-ounce packages cherry tomatoes (preferrably organic)--halved or quartered if large, 1/2 finely chopped, small red onion, 1 chopped small green bell pepper, 1 minced serrano chili, 3 tablespoons chopped fresh cilantro (preferrable organic), 1/3 teaspoon salt, 1 tablespoon fresh lime juice, and 2 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil. Toss. I eat it as is. Some people use it as a topping for a spicey white fish dish or eat alone with corn chips. SO tasty! I love tomatoes! And I love tomatillos which are in season now. Here is a great recipe from one of my favorite chefs, Rick Bayless, for a tomatillo salsa. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

My favorite! With a sweet-spicey pepper sauce. No comparison! I encourage people to play with spices, herbs & peppers. I can create a "buffalo-style" seasoning/sauce for just about anything and it be completely vegan but not lacking in satisfaction.

I realize those who have not seen it will still comment, but ideally only looking for discussion from those who have seen the documentary film, Earthlings. Any and all comments and thoughts welcomed (from anyone who has watched the film). Thanks! Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

Oh my gosh--so funny reading my old posts. Yes! It is fantastic! We never did complete training as the trainer did not show twice in a row and we were doing really well on our own. First, let me say when we first adopted Roo (Cruzer) he learned very quickly. It took several weeks to get a tail wag and for him to "play" with us, but after that it really was smooth sailing... So, we have been thinking about adopting another for a long time and I made the mistake of doing a search on Petfinder.com to play around. I think we found our girl, but I do not want to say too much more yet. She is currently enrolled in an inmate program a couple hours away and will not be available for a few weeks... Cruzer clearly loves other dogs--so much so that listening to us becomes "optional" when he is off-leash on the beach and sees another dog. With the idea of adopting another comes the closer look at your own. Bill (my hunny) and I are always jealous of the other dog-owners on the beach whose dogs are walking unleashed right near their owners. They are not running off and going bananas like Cruz (eventually he always comes back, but on his own accord). So, we started NILF and went even further by going on

To my recollection, I have had one. But, speaking of which, where is Amazon (Jeanne)? Have I missed something? She always lavished in her warnings. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

I am with you as far as not needing "protection". I have never pm'd a mod for any such thing (and I have been here since the beginning), but there have been at least two threads which were "recycled" before I could even wake up to read what the offender said about me. There was this one thread about sky-kisses. No idea what caused the breakup--I was sleeping like a baby. Clearly I pissed some ladies off.

Thank you.