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All the Cessna "horror stories" that I have heard have had nothing to do with the plane, and everything to do with the jumper not knowing how to exit the plan properly. If you're not sure about how to do something, ask someone, and even practice it a few times if you think it will help. I haven't been in this sport very long, but it seems to me that if you are in it long enough, you are going to have bad exits from every kind of aircraft. If you steadfastly refuse to jump a plane after you have a bad exit, eventually you won't be jumping from much other that a picnic table.

John Travolta and his wife Kelly Preston skydive on a regular basis.

Aside from cobaltdan's original post, this is the only other worthwhile thing said in this thread. So I wanted to try to bring it up again, and I am specifically interested your views on this, cobaltdan, since you consider it a superior manufacturing aspect to restitch a whole seam if you run out of thread before the seam is finished. In an argument, you can never prove you're right. The best you can do is prove that they are more wrong.

Andrea, I just pm'ed you but I don't know if you got it, cause the PM system gave me the error that seems more common than not. In an argument, you can never prove you're right. The best you can do is prove that they are more wrong.

Just cut and paste what you have already done, from the header that you have already done into the first page header on a new document. Do the same for the footer. Then just save it as a template. Tada! In an argument, you can never prove you're right. The best you can do is prove that they are more wrong.

when you click on the "different first page" box, you should then be able to edit the first page header and footer, independently of the header and footer for the rest of the document. Just make sure that "different first page" box is checked and click on OK. then go to View -> Header and Footer, and it will give you the chance to edit the first page header. Scroll down for the footer, and down even further for the header and footer for the rest of the document.

My kinda girl.

No need to "lie to yourself." The hamburger patties are 100% beef, and the chicken, while processed, is still chicken. Course you'd be hardpressed to find me eating in a McDonald's. Their food is as disgusting as it is unhealthy.

Baby. In an argument, you can never prove you're right. The best you can do is prove that they are more wrong.

UPDATE: I did my checkdive on the sunset/nightfall load on Friday. I mentioned the discrepancy in the SIM to my instructor beforehand and he said he wanted me to do a figure-8, backloop, figure-8, and then dock on him. On the jump before the check dive, I had done a solo and did figure-8, backloop, figure-8, left barrell roll, right barrell roll, and still had time to track for 10 seconds or so before opening at around 4k. So I wasn't too worried about being able to do the needed styleset. The docking was the only thing that worried me. Anyway, did the jump and had the manuevers and dock done by 6k. It was 5 minutes from dark when I landed, but the jump was successful, and I was able to get my A license proficiency card signed off, just in time to drive up to Chicagoland Skydive for a non-stop weekend, that included 11 more jumps.

Ah... Good old static-line course.

so what you're saying is that all the lightweight floaty jumpers don't matter huh? In an argument, you can never prove you're right. The best you can do is prove that they are more wrong.

Funny how you seemed to mention all the dz.commers but me. Well, I was there too, just in case anyone cares. In an argument, you can never prove you're right. The best you can do is prove that they are more wrong.

0:14:9 Was part of the DZ.com crowd at Chicagoland Skydive in Hinckley. This DZ kicks ass! The weather turned out to be way better than expected, except for the funky winds on Sunday afternoon. 1. First time riding the plane back down (forgot goggles on a planned 4-way) 2. First jump without my cypres turned on 3. First time pieing someone (FallingMarc) 4. First FrankenOtter jump 5. First Porter jump 6. First jump in an RW jumpsuit (which I ended up buying at the end of the weekend) 7. First reverse-rodeo (compliments of sunshine), and we held it the whole time, which is good considering it was only the second time I had intentionally flown on my back. 8. First tube exit/dive 9. First successful 5-way (1 point and tried for 2) Things that weren't first's but still damn fun: -A hardcore spinning 2-way with Vallerina -A sweet 3-way hybrid, straight off the plane with canopycudler and Andyman -Contributed to FallingMarc's 100th being a zoo jump instead of anything recognizeable. (note to self: Don't take a deep breathe right before the count, especially if you are supposed to be giving the count.

Well it's not a huge deal. I can do the style set with 2 figure-8's or 1, but my thinking is that if I only have to do one, that will give me more time to dock, which is the only part of the dive that I am concerned about. It looks like in the process of revised the SIM something got overlooked. I'm just wondering which one is the new requirement.

Nope, the card just says, "A license proficiency dive." In an argument, you can never prove you're right. The best you can do is prove that they are more wrong.

Well, I am considering doing my check dive this afternoon so that I can get signed off on my proficiency card, but I seem to have found a discrepancy in the 2001 SIM. It is as follows. On page 15 under the heading License Exam Instructions it says that an instructor must make a dive with the student to test their basic abilities (the check dive). It then lists the flow of the check dive. Number 4 in the flow it says the student is to perform 2 figure-8's and a backloop. But then on page 96 under the heading USPA A-License Check Dive Flow, the 8th bulletted item says that the candidate must perform "a figure-8 and backloop." So which is it? 2 figure-8's or one. Any opinions on this one? In an argument, you can never prove you're right. The best you can do is prove that they are more wrong.

Well, I am considering doing my check dive this afternoon so that I can get signed off on my proficiency card, but I seem to have found a discrepancy in the 2001 SIM. It is as follows. On page 15 under the heading License Exam Instructions it says that an instructor must make a dive with the student to test their basic abilities (the check dive). It then lists the flow of the check dive. Number 4 in the flow it says the student is to perform 2 figure-8's and a backloop. But then on page 96 under the heading USPA A-License Check Dive Flow, the 8th bulletted item says that the candidate must perform "a figure-8 and backloop." So which is it? 2 figure-8's or one. Any opinions on this one? In an argument, you can never prove you're right. The best you can do is prove that they are more wrong.

Pythons are like goldfish. They will only get as big as their living space allows them to get. So it's not much of an issue. Boa's are the ones that keep growning no matter what. In an argument, you can never prove you're right. The best you can do is prove that they are more wrong.

*peeks around the corner* If a certain celestial body YahooIM's me today while I am at work, I may end up showing up after all.

*Sigh* Fine. Even though I told you ahead of time that that was what your response would be I chose to give the examples anyway. You used the "all things being equal prepose," and so was I. All things being equal, even if rape was socially acceptable I still wouldn't do it, and it would have nothing to do with my penis size. I feel like this discussion is going in circles now, because you are saying things that I already expected you to say. I don't know how else to put it, so I come back to what I originally said. I think you're sociological theory is wrong. You can disagree with me if you like, as I am sure you do. But society can't develop originally from society. Somewhere it starts with individuals who have their own views that are simply based on them thinking things through and making decisions based on that for themselves. Based on how I understand your version of social conditioning, there would never be changes in how society views anything. In an argument, you can never prove you're right. The best you can do is prove that they are more wrong.

Even if rape were "socially acceptable," what would stop me would be my empathy with the person who does not want to have sex with me. Regardless of what my desires might be, if she didn't want to be with me, then there would zero pleasure gained from my forcing myself on her. Understanding how she felt would severely mute or obliterate any desire I might have had to be with her (regardless of society saying that it is ok). Sex is more complicated than just a physical act between two people and in order to have good satisfying sex, the emotions and desires of the two involved need to mesh at some level. This won't happen with rape, even if society says rape is fine, and thus I would not rape her. If you care about your fellow human beings then what that one person feels about what you do will be more important in the moment than what has been deemed allowable by society. Another example: Our society has deemed it appropriate to report crimes that you find out about to the proper authorities. However, that doesn't mean that if a close friend came to me and told me of a crime that he committed, that I would then report this to the police. Doesn't mean I wouldn't but it doesn't mean I would. Once again, emotions and relationships that are completely independent of society come into play. So there are two examples.

Ok here's the problem. Any example I come up with, you will just be able to dismiss by saying, "Well that example is based on sociological values that you have learned, and thus can't be used." The only problem is that you give all these hypotheticals about rape and stealing that simply can't be tested. That is why I was asking for an example of something that society has deemed acceptable, and because of that everyone does it. In an argument, you can never prove you're right. The best you can do is prove that they are more wrong.

I just wonder if they would let you fill the cabin to capacity for this type of flight. In an argument, you can never prove you're right. The best you can do is prove that they are more wrong.

"I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast." "You eat shit for breakfast?!" "...n.. No!"