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Quote Not true. Read the Transcript. Tina relayed messages for him via the interphone - on at least one ocassion he used the interphone himself. Would the crew recognise his voice if they heard it again? Yes. There may even be a recording(s) of his voice! He didn't hide his voice! There is one old rumor that Himmelsbach listened to a recording of Cooper, other agents also, and this is the basis for H saying Cooper 'used filthy language and was profane'. Tosaw asked about this rumor but apparently could not get it confirmed ... there is no mention of it in his book! If that is TRUE, WHY in the HELL did the FBI not release the tape to the TV. If they had a recording all of these yr and did NOT release it - that sound like dereliction of responsibility or a COVER-UP. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Damn RIGHT on that ONE! Cooper did survive and in 1971 Weber was doing laps morning and evening and he was going to AL on the wkends with a man in a van and with dark hair. The wife told me he asked her to buy him a couple of Dickie jumpsuits. He told her it had something to do with the work he was doing in AL on the weekends. Yet, he was supposedly during the wk selling insurance, but the 1971 taxes showed barely any income for Weber. This is all a puzzle to me - when you look at the taxes 1969, 1970, 1971 and then 1972. It pretty much tells a story - it is posted in this thread. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Yea, Cooper had a grudge. Promises made to him that were NOT kept and the fact he had just been diagnosed with the same disease his mother had die of! He did NOT expect to be alive in 5 yrs and he could not afford the medical treatment. He would have been living on the streets and in homeless shelters. He did NOT care if he died...and if he survived then the system would provide him with what he was used to - medical treatment, food and a bed in a cell. It was actually all he knew. He had spent all of his formative yrs and most of his adult life in a prison. He survived and then he changed his life - it was a gradual process as medical treatment for the disease became more accessible and he ended up staying out of prison and with GOOD health insurance. He would live for 23 plus yrs. Yet, in 1971 he felt he was a dead man walking! He spent the rest of his life feeling like a very very LUCKY man and even turned down being put on the kidney transplant list in 1990. He toured the facility in Birmingham when he went for evaluation to be put on the list - and then told the doctor "I cannot take from these young people their chance of leading a normal life." He accepted the fact in 1989 that he had less than 5 yrs to live. It was in 1990 after starting dialysis he went to a place where he retrived some things and set about living what was left of his life - and making sure that others were provided for. He had put away something to be used when those days came. In 1990 when he went on the machine he made a trip to Omaha and Kansas and retrive the funds he had set aside....He made a huge purchase of mechandise for the store he had started and even though the business did NOT seem to thrive - we never did without. When he died he had less than 500 dollars in his personal/business account. He asked that I stop by the bank on the way to the hospital and then he handed me what he had left in his personal acct. I had money in our joint acct and until a month before he died - I had a good income. During that last month I could not take care of him and also do my job justice...and my boss was aware of this. He had been doing a lot of my job for about 2 months...to cover for my time taking care of Duane. I allowed him to dismiss me for low production due to my husband health so that I would still have some income. These people really treated me right...I won't go into detailsl, but I will never forget the compassion they showed for the predicament I was in. I still had income, the time to spend with my husband before he died and a sizeable unexpected policy the company provided for Duane....I did NOT know anything about it until my boss told me. I frankly always believed it was a GIFT! During those last few yrs we had kept our monies separate because Duane wanted to do so....because of the shop. The shop I will always believe was a cover for the monies he had put away, because I never saw a lot of merchandise move. It was a place for him to go and to feel useful. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

WE DO NOT KNOW THAT COOPER HAD BENZEDDRINE - JUST THAT HE MADE A STATEMENT TO THE STEWARDESS WHEN HE WAS TOLD IT HAD BEEN A LONG DAY FOR THE PILOTS AND THE CREW! NO ONE INDICATED COOPER HAD ANY BREATHING PROBLEMS OR EXHIBITED ANY FORM OF A LUNG ILLNESS! STOP fabricating facts! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Big BIG difference between tobacco stained finger and YELLOW NAIL SYNDROME. Seriously DOUBT the crew reported that Cooper had YELLOW NAILS. No mention was made of his coughing. You have taken this from stained fingers to YELLOW NAILS! THIS is just too much and IT is NOT funny! You are becoming a FABRICATOR of things that did not and are not part of the Cooper case. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I like Bruce but he has a way of going overboard on things. NONE of us like what he did with Tina and then her brother in-law and another relative on the opposite side of the U.S. He is after all a writer and sometimes take TOO many liberaties. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo STATES: 1. 8 smokes under the circumstances is NOT a lot of cigarettes and does not make Cooper a chain smoker. 2. Where did YOU find a statement thathat Tina said Cooper was a chain smoker - a chain smoker would have smoked more than 8 cigarrettes in 4 hours. 3. Yes, Tina did say that Cooper was giddy when the money arrived and as inspected the package, offered the stewardess a tip...NO mention has ever been made of COOPER jumping up and down. WHERE the HELL are you getting all of these statements - SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO CREATE MORE CHAOS AND DISTORT THE FACTS EVEN MORE THAN THEY ARE. Have U actually spoke with Tina and Florence - THERE are and have been known interviews where they stated the certain thing, but NOTHING about jumping up and down. You ARE a fabricator of myths. If these things were actually said - state date and time and person doing the interview and what publication it appear in! Until you make the above information public then STOP creating MYTHS. This case already had to many myths - and the last thing it needs is a CREATOR of MORE MYTHS! You are a writer not just someone interested in helping solve the case. I can smell a GALEN COOK a mile away! A fabricator of facts! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

How the HELL would on deduce Cooper (not Coop) was a heavy CHAIN SMOKER. Stress causing one to smoke more and I would have done the same thing Cooper did. By the way 8 smokes in 4 hour did NOT make Cooper a chain smoker. He was under stress and needed to keep his hands busy - so as not to touch things and he needed to stay alert. Truck driver often took medication if the had an overnight run. Three of my uncles where long haul truck drivers who rarely smoked except when the did over night hauls...it does help to keep the system alert. Look at the times and look at what Cooper was doing. There were on 2 whiskey bottles place in their drink cup. One Cooper spilled and the other he evidently drank. He wipe them off because they FOUND NO prints on them. Tina told the searcher where she put the cups and they FBI found them and they were tested. This comes from TOSAW who actually had the only extensive inteview ever given by Tina other than the FBI. With Tosaw she was not under the stress she was right after the incident. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

WE do NOT KNOW if Cooper was a HEAVY smoker. I do NOT remember reading a statement his fingers were yellowed from smoking. Maybe he had airplane glue on his finger tips and why the prints are not viable to identify Cooper! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

NO, it is not SAFE to conlude a specific drug was used! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Dead on with that Statement: I have the research to prove it! I did all of that yrs ago - Intermountain Communication use a lot of these guys! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

We DO NOT know Cooper had BENEZEDRINE on him. We think from a comment made to the stewardess that he has SOMETHING to help keep himself and possibly the crew alert. YOU CANNOT name a DRUG and expect it to be THAT DRUGThere were other things we used in 1971 to stay awake for tests or to keep us alert if we were pushing to make a destination by car or plane in the wee hours of the morning. YOU CAN not prove what drug he had on him! So for you to DECLARE it was a prescription drug - is making a declaration that ONLY Cooper could have known! You have no profile and your handle is self explanatory - who put YOU in CHARGE and You DO NOT KNOW what Cooper had on him! This attitude of yours to make statements that are decision making statements - makes you a writer, FBI or someone only on the thread to create a rumor and/or declare your statement as fact! These guys here have a mind and they can see through individuals who come here to scams the readers into taking false info as fact. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, in 1962 a certain operation had several men who where in their late 30's who in 1971 would be in their late 40's. Why don't you check out the KNOWN participants with Intermountain Operations in the mid 1960's. How old do you think Paperlegs Peterson was in 1962 and in 1971. He recruited individual he had met in the N.W. and he also recruited a few ex-cons - perhaps unknowingly, but I think he knew who 3 of them were and they were NOT squeaky clean. Paperlegs had a wife who was with him near "In Plane Site" and some of the others has women visit them. Because In PLANE Site was so isolated they got to have a guests at a little place about 15/25 miles from the site...never disclosing what they were doing there. Supposedly it was a grave yard for planes of source - but, there WAS more that went on there. It was a location NO ONE would question planes going in and out of. Great location to conduct a secret missions out of! HOW DO I KNOW THIS! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The few times I have flown in my life I never filled anything out. Before the computers the clerks did all the writing and now it is computerized. I do NOT know where this guy is coming from with some of his 'stuff', but so far it is a NO regardless of my stand on Weber. He makes it easy for me to be very objective about his suspect. I think he is a TEST to see just HOW GULLIBLE Cooper seekers are and how easy it is to lead us around on a leash. I want to take this chance to remind you guys about the Jack Anderson files and to ask a question. Did the FBI or CIA successful obtain the records from his wife Olivia. I know they tricked her and the voucher was for ALL his file not just the one pertaining to specific 1970's files. I think they took all 200 boxes and I wondered if she EVER GOT them back. Anderson was the journalist 2 individuals from the Lousiana area went to see and to give depositions regarding Kennedy. One was already using an alias. Seems like this just WENT AWAY! NO one very knew what REALLY HAPPENED! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

That is what I was saying and there were things out there one could obtain to keep you awake without a script in 1970. It is a given No Dr. would have prescribes something like that for anyone with hypertension and kidneys that were not functioning at full capacity. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

WELL, have you ever studied the Reno papers. The coded message which told them to decipfer the message and they could find him. It was a combination of Weber's army and navy number. The fbi denied he was in the army until a journalist and myself produce the ARMY records and then the FBI conceded. Had it not have been for old family records and a sharp journalist the Army record would have stayed buried just like the Jefferson composite was buried. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robert99 stated: The pills you speak of were Benzedrine. That is an amphetamine that required a prescription in 1971. Jo Replies: I do NOT remember getting a prescription for it in the 70's and it may NOT have been Benzedrine - it could simply have been caffeine tablets. Since Weber had been diagnosed with Polycysitic Kidney he probably was on medication, but I have NO idea what he was taking in the early 70's. I am sure what put him in the hospital was hypertension and that is when they found or confirmed his kidney disease but he would NOT need further assistance until 1987. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I skimmed thru it the other day as a refresher and I have not put it away yet. If not in that book in multiple other places! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Uncertain where you got the information, but I think it falls along the lines of medication. Before I mentioned a dentist and dental work that may have been in progress with the skyjacker and that he might have worked briefly in the laboratory in exchange for services. Cleaning the lab and simple jobs maintaining the equipment. On another NOTE - remember that rubber gloves where OFTEN use by cleaning personnel in public establishment - this includes airports and planes. May have just been co-incidental. Just too common if it was that chemical. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Belvins Stated: Blevins - you never actually got a copy of the report. You perhaps got a summary letter Palmer did, BUT not the COMPLETE file he used to come to those decisions. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Thank all of you for your offers of help. After this month I might look at getting something connected to my phone company. AS for getting cell signals - well, in certain parts of my home I cannot use my cell! 5 yrs ago I had to go outside and stand between the 2 houses - but, a new tower finally fixed that. My sister was unable to use her cell in parts of KY on her trip to a family reunion. NOT every one is connected everywhere, but it is happening. ANYONE ever think about this KC supporter being a SET-UP? If it looks like, smells lie and acts like a set-up it usually is. Blevins plays the part where he claims NOT to believe the other party - just to win favor from the others. Then he has a legitimate excuse to get back inside and repeat the story to sell his book. Hope to be getting some help out of WA to obtain documentation. Putting Weber in WA & in a chute was not enough for the FBI....and won't put him on the plane, but it should raise eyebrows if validation was publically presented. I re-read Tosaw's book and the green plastic in the briefcase was not there. So I have to check the phone notes. If it was NOT Tosaw then who was it> I would be amused if it was in Himmelsbach book because everything in his book has been discussed over and over and over. Also most things in Tosaw's book.

I can view medical DVD's but never tried to play music CD or view a DVD - wouldn't know where to start. It has Light Scribe DVD writer/CD writer on it but I don't know how to use it or what you use if for. I bought a portable DVD player - 9 inches to view Cooper DVD's others sent me...such as Sluggo. Expect I could view those DVD's on here, but do NOT have a clue how. I am a real DUMB ass when it comes to technology and remotes. I have a VCR that no one can figure out how to connect because of the converter box. Now that mean I have a really old TV. But it works. I just need someone to teach me how to use this thing. The classes are 30 miles away and at night (I do not drive after dark) nor that far unless it is a medical situation that cannot be handle locally. The classes I went to in 2000 only taught me the basics of being on line and doing some files for real estate. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Thank You but the problem here is the operator (yours truely). I have a AMD dual care 3800 HP processor with 1 GB of memory and 200GB harddrive, windows XP. My problem is the dial-up, but that is okay it will see me thru...she is 7 yrs old, but she keeps on trucking. I just do NOT know how to use it...and I have AOL because I refuse to give up my filing cabinet! If I got one of those faster services I would have to continue to pay aol to access my filing cabinet. The AOL and the dial up and me are the problem - I think! I understand this machine is capable of things I do not understand. Not being able to see videos is the dial-up. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The new poster thinks Cooper was his father, but he has yet to state this on the thread. His father if still living and sound of mind is 88 yrs old...same birthdate as Weber. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Shutter stated: Jo States: I am not afraid of this man's story, but because of who I think he is. Read your PM then you will understand. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber