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This makes me wonder how long the money was at Tena's bar. The ever changing weather conditions and the pourous sand would cause the money to rapidly decay. Sometimes I wonder if the Fazio's are right. Their theory is the money had not been there long and was recently deposited with the tide. The area was a favorite fishing area and the money was found only 20 feet from the shore line to my understanding. Seems like someone would have stepped on the bundles or notice them. Technical problem with the money being deposited by the tide. It is my opinion that if the money was floating or underwater in the currents - it would have fanned out and probably separated unless it got to the Bar in a container. Option 1. A paper sack Duane threw into the river at the bridge 8 months before the money was found on Tena's bar. Option 2. Duane Weber not only threw a sack with "something in it" into the Columbia from the Red Lion. As Jo has stated - THEY did go to Tena's Bar and Duane Weber went to the shore line BY HIMSELF - and then out of site behind the Fazion home. Was Cooper making random deposits of damaged money or was the Tena's bar the only deposit. Option 3. Cooper lost the loose money in the jump. Optiion 4. Cooper landed in the Columbia or in an area that was dreged around the Lake and some how ended up in the Columbia....with only 3 packets ending up on Tena's bar. Option 5. The money was planted on the beach by someone who accessed the monies for a faulty storage shed and since it was damaged - buried in on Tena's bar as a salute to a man who lieved in the area. Option 6. Some kind of animal or fowl found the money and carried it to Tina's bar. Well, you guys can start to add and refine the options - but it all comes down to the fact ONLY one person has ever explained the money being on Tena's bar. A phone call to the FBI in 1996 - a woman who claimed her husband took her to Wa and to the Columbia and her frantic attempts to explain what she was talking about and in 1996 the woman had ONLY been to WA State ONE time and that was in 1979. I have found some tapes I made on a micro mini - but nothing to play them no and no ONE can even get me one in this area. These tapes I made after contacting the FBI and before I went to WA in 2001 - so they are untainted - only my memories and at that time I had acquired 3 books. Himmelsbacks book, Tosaws book and the first one I read a fictional book written by Max Gunther. Also acquired during this period of time from an UNKNOWN source. Ha Ha Ha by Dan Cooper. Some tapes are the micro mini and the others are the regular cassett size. ONE tape was from an anwering machine and it has a recording of Weber's voice during the yr (1990). He had gone "NUTS" and obtained a drivers license under the name of John Collins and then used that ID to access a safe deposit box in probably Omaha, NB. In the process getting himself detained by the authorities and taken by gun point to a processing center where he was not processed, but transfer by intervention by his physician to a 72 hour observation facility in a hospital were he was currently undergoing dialysis. 1990 Duane Weber was a desparate man - desperate enough to risk his freedom to obtain the drivers license he needed to access a box he opened in 1980 - containing his memories and momentos and part of his "savings". Monies he set aside to aid him when the time came he would be unable to provide for himself. Why in 1988 after we moved to FL he was hell bent on getting a shop - he needed a way to WASH his hidden cash. He would open that small business and when he was going on diaylsis he knew he needed to go then. Because of his health he had let his old license expire so he risked everything to obtain another license under the name of John Collins. One attempt failed and one was a success and I still have that John Collins drivers license and it WAS not a fake. When the FBI investigated they did NOT read the RECEIPT on that Collins drivers license. They never ever checked it out. If they had then they would have had the Jefferson pictures. Oh, Well - NO one cares about the truth except the one who he tried to tell his story to. He kept asking for a recorder - and I didn't have to money to go get him one. Someone brought him an old one, but it didn't work. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

READ TOSAW'S book! Himmelsbach told me not too long ago - I had become the GO TOO person for information. I was shocked since another person who posts on this thread had told me Himmelsbach does not want me contacting him. Frankly I do not believe Mr. H is two-faced. He has always been very honest with me. I have been trying to figure out who should get my "marked up book" Max Gunther walked me thru and his kind and some times kinky letters to me. One young man wants to someday do a book and when I wrote my will long ago - I did name him, but am rethinking some of that right now. His views were a little slanted. Did anyone listen to the program Bruce was interviewed by. I could not of course get it. I have NOT read Bruce's book. He sent me what he sent others and I read a few pages and then just let it go as the preliminary he had done on me was very biased and negative. Wonder how many of you will eat CROW someday and when you do be sure to have some Amaretto around and some Tia Maria and a good bottle of a sweet fruity wine....I have not been able to drink in several yrs because alcohol accelerates the symptoms. I won't be there. Of course some Seagrams and/or another good scotch to toast Duane. I forget now the names of the scotch and bourbons Duane drank....he like myself was unable to drink in the later part of his life. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I only have the energy for this one post. I do not know what you are talking about regarding 27K? Please send me a personal email regarding this. Whatever this is about is totally eluding me at this time. Now a message to EVERYONE: I believe I am down to the wire on time. Even though my health has been on a downward spiral - it has ACCELERATED. I won't go into any details because I won't have the final word for a wk or 2 and after some more testing. After reviewing some old records on my health - things I just mentally walked away from, but knew in my heart was on the horizon....it seems the sunset of my life has come. I knew it was only a matter of time and I have beat the odds for a long time. The last yr has been difficult. Things I thought UNRELATED to the original diagnosis in 2007 started to excellerate in June of 2012 - I had filed all of that away - out of site and out of mind. I don't need any lip from any of you at this time. I had all the papers on the disease and prior studies and convinced myself they were wrong and the diagnosis was wrong. Seems like it was DEAD on. The symptoms have progress rapidly since June of 2012 and the discomfort level is high. I ignored all of the warning signs - increase in flushing and sweats and heat intolerant (deliberately filed them away). I just didn't want to face the reality! The other symptoms are too gross to discuss on this thread. Will make another post about Cooper and what needs to be done to bring all of this to an end and soon. There is one thing I want everyone to know and understand. I have not lied nor told a fantasy story and I have not attempted to make monies off of this. I did what was the RIGHT thing to do. This 42 yr saga on Cooper needs to end and our own government needs to stand up and be accounted for regarding their complete indifference to the lives their "secrets" have created not only for me, but others. There are certain individuals I want to personally meet with on a private basis. God forbid why I would want to meet Georger - perhaps just curiousity! Do not know if I have the stamina to do this at this time, but I want to try. As for CKRET - no way. Curtis Eng only because he was kind to me. Snowman and Smoking99 are 2 more and of course 377. There is a person who lofts here. but like myself has not been well - I want to personally meet. The person who was assigned to HOAX me. I would like for Sheridan Peterson to be one of the individuals, but his health like mine will probably not allow this. Sheridan or any skyjumper who jumped out of Issagauh from 1962 to 1970 - needs to see pictures of Weber and some of his associates who were legitimate business men during this time. Some of these men had and flew their own planes. The FBI needs to make public the name of the business whose rental was found at the Portland airport. If Cossey was jumping out of Issaqauh during the time frame outlined above - he also may have thought he had met Cooper. I was contacted by many strange individuals who told me some strange stories, but nothing seemed to fit. One man who was present in the first thread contacted me and we had some unusual conversations. He then disappeared and I think he may have died. He - I believe knew who Duane was and remembered him, but told me the truth would never be known. I have his handle someplace, but cannot remember it at this time. If 377 catches me at a good time - perhaps he can off the thread see if he can identify the person. This man who contacted me was the only one over the yrs I felt had some kind of inside information regarding Duane Weber. I do not remember if he revealed his real name to me, but someone from the thread might know. Right now the temp in the room is 75 and I am buring up and flushing. My skin feels like I have been burned and I awake in sweats with a horrible rash that does NOT go away. The medication for the rash only intensify the other symptoms. This is NOT fun...I won't mention the gross parts. Add to that the degenerative old age things and it is worse. I try to keep the 2 things separate, but hip surgery would only cause the progression of the disease to accelerate. The 3 surgeries I had - may have contributed to the acceleration as one of the components used with anesthesia can cause a carcinoid crisis to occur. Medications used to control the rashes (prednisones and cortisones) also accelerate the underlying disease. Which demon do you choose? Now you know part of what is going on...and why I do not travel or do interviews. I took that trip in 2010 because at that time - I knew I had to do it. Wish I could have stayed for 2 more wks and then have approached the FBI with information that is probably now forever buried. The woman in Biggs and Rufus - and her nephew. Another man known only to Margie Boule I did not think pertinent to Weber - he is the one who later tried to contact the FBI, but wanted immunity. His name was not given and an attorney in the area who is deceased tried to make this happen, but the STATE said it had to be done thru Washingtion DC as the case was a Federal Case. This man died in 2004 (I think). Georger strangely enough KNOWS who the man was - so why does Georger NOT speak up. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Surgical glue not Super Glue. Area 51 - I did not know what they were talking about until I realized 51 was in the Nevada area. I remember that 1979 trip in lots of detail - yes, I do have a good memory or I used to. Age has caught up with me and the drugs I use to manage my health. My brother has a better memory than I do - I am the one who can tell you what I was wearing and what he was wearing on a train trip to Ohio - he remembered it and he was only 3 yrs old. Why he remembered it was the Chimpanzee at the Zoo in Cinnci. I remembered they gave us a lower birth so mother could try to get us to take a nap. I couldn't keep him in the birth - the nap never happened. I have explained how my father used to ask us question after a trip - he thought the best way to give us a broad sense of the country was travel. My memory is best at absorbing trips because of how my father was. Mundane things about every day life are just that. A trip I remembered and that is how it was when I was with Duane. ALL of the trips we took that were NOT a repeat trip. I might not remember the name of the town but I remember the street we parked on and the building on that street - such as Omaha, Nebraska. We were basically taught to remember a trip Daddy took us on and I never let go of that. Now age and medication is robbing me of my memories and WHY I tell as much as I can of what I remember. On a trip out west with my father and mother and my brother and my then 3 yrs old sister. She was standing between mother and father in the front seat - 1949. She had on a blue dress and she was chewing on it and she was hungery - because Daddy pushed us to the limit to chase the sun that day, Few potty stop - we had something to use in the car. DUHH! I was 9 yrs old. My memory is NOT photographic, but it is triggered by what I see. WHY my trip in 2010 was so valuable to me and even though I thought I would come home and the trip would wash all of this out of my mind. IT DIDN'T - it only reinforced things - So many changes and I would see a building I remembered, but none of the surrounding area - and I would find out it was a nursery Duane had mentioned and why I paid attention. It was like my father talking - I remembered the things he said and what he showed me! Even today I remember routes I travel by visual places - like a house - I never remember the street. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Need to correct this before "someone" decides this is a fact. FACT : It was presumed that Weber and Jo were in WASHINGTON state the LAST wk of Sept 1979 because it co-incides with the time frame Englebert was performing in Tahoe and the outfit she wore in pictures made in Salt Lake on the first day of the Sentimental journey. As for the above statement - I stand FIRM on that. I can prove I was in WA in 1979 - just find the records for a company known as Family Life Insurance Company whose home office was in Seattle, WA. There was a managers meeting in Seattle at the specific time I gave. TheH.O. in Seattle is now I believe defunct and the company no longer exists - I do not know and have not looked it up. BUT, surely some person who was a manager with Family Life kept and took pics. I do not the names of those in attendance at that Managers Meeting...but surely some of them are still around. The old reciepts and things like that are long since gone. I have the TAX report and the check stub for an award Duane recieved, but it has NO date. 1979 and multiple moves and getting remarried - one does not carry every little thing. A pack RAT I am NOT. 2001 and 2010 are easy, but since there are individuals still alive who were with me and some of that was filmed - NO NEED for me to bow to the DEMANDS of one of our posters. When someone makes claims that insinuate I am lieing they need to present pictured data of themselves in those same areas...and or stamped and dated pictures of those area taken by the individuals who LIVED there. The Fazio's have lots of those! Memory can be flawed, but NOT to the point I would lie about a specific thing. I had seen these ariels and had noted what seems to be buildings not there in 1979. I don't like arials because the are deceptive. What might appear as a building could be a temporary shed or large tent for a family reunion! I have A REAL hard time with ARIELS. My memory was from the GROUND! Show me dated ground photos taken at Tena's bar over the last 41 yrs My only post for the day - so please if you have something to say - do NOT attack me or call me a liar! Post pictures I can download and NO arials. Show me dated pictures of the Fazion property - in fact block out the date to send to me in a PM. I will more than likely be able to mark them - pre-skyjack, post skyjack, pre 1979 or what ever designation they deserver. The problem here and the lack of visual evidence is a PROBLEM for me. GET the pictures and then I will talk. There are several individuals on this thread WHO live in WA. I am sure the FAZIO's if taken out to dinner or compensated in some way would allow the interviewer to make copies of pictures of the old farm from the albums. Perhaps a family reunion and ask any of the family to bring pictures and the approx dates taken of the site to be put in a historical archive. I would if someone was going to archive the old home stead in KY. Rightfully it is the right thing to do because as it stands - The Fazio Homestead in Vancouver a place people will forever remembered & historically - it is the only area that ever revealed any evidence actually related to the this unsolved Skyjacking in 1971. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I NEVER EVER said the sack held anything of size. I described the bag like one they put ice cream in at a convenience store yrs ago. It was NOT a large bag - lunch size - Lunch size 1969's not today. I NEVER said it held anything of size - it was folded over at the top and not flimsy like bags today - so I compared it to an ice cream bag. Maybe 8 x4 at the base and perhaps 10 inches tall 2/3 of it was folded over at the top.,,,firmly! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The ONLY photos that impress me are snapshots - not ariels I cannot even read. YOU have never BEEN to WA and until you do and see ACTUAL physical pictures of the house and in the FAZIO family album - Oh and make sure they are dated on the back. Lots of photo were taken at the time of the dig in 1980. What I saw was from the parking area and from the other side of the gate in 1979. Somethings had changed in 2001, but the parking lot and the trees for the most part were still there. END of subject. YOU get on a bus and go to WA and make sure it includes a retro trip into the past with the Fazios with dated photos! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Do you know HOW many posts I have made when I have been exhausted beyond belief and sick to boot. YOU know that it was FINALLY established per the pictures and per the weather we were there either last wk of Sept 1979 or 1st wk of Oct 1979. I have described IN DETAIL that on the FIRST DAY of the TRIP to SALT LAKE and in the SALT LAKE photo I had on shorts. We spend that NIGHT in THE DALLEs and the next day I wear jeans but threw the shorts in the back seat. I was comfortable with the jeans and when we got to SEATTLE it had cooled down just as DUANE had told me it would. We established the dates of the trip through Englebert's performing in Tahoe. WHAT IS so complicated by this and why would you ever rehash this stuff? I posted a picture made in Salt Lake on that first day of our trip! YOU SUPPOSEDLTY live in Florida - HAVE YOU ever been to WA and to the AREAS discussed? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Are you saying I said Duane was NOT on Tena's bar? Are you saying I said "Cooper did not put the money there. it got there by the flow of the water"? I played DEVIL's advocate with a guy who told me NOT to contradict him - he wanted to prove the money was thrown into the river and got to Tena's bar that way. I had said before and in writing on another site and to others long before that and in this thread - Duane took me to Tena's bar and he went down to the river alone and out of my site. "I believe a small packet of money was thrown out over a bridge in Longview" 30 miles north of Tena bar. Correct I said that and think it was money - a small packet he passed off as a candy wrapper. "I never said Duane THREW anything in the river at Tena's bar. I said he buried it behind the house and on the beach behind the house." You ask what house on the beach? Then you need to get your head examined! Where the hell do you think the Fazio's lived - there was a fence between the house and the beach if you want to be TECHNICAL! The Fazio's lived on the river. Yes, I did explore the fact that the money could have gotten there from the Red Lion throw...and that is possible, but I had a problem with the money getting to the Fazios. I do not know what was in the bag he threw into the river. I will say that what ever he left behind the Fazio's on the river came from the same bag he threw into the river at the Red Lion. If I want to vent in CAPs I will do so. I have to go to bed - I have had a HARD day and tomorrow they want a lot of blood from me. You need to go back and re-read every post and not just thru a search that leads you to a post that is reflecting conversations prior to the post. YOU are not following the trail - you just want to hear yourself talk and to confuse matters. Well, you won't confuse this old girl. Everyone on this thread is quilty of playing with the facts - that is why we are here to explore. I explored the possiblities with the thread but ALWAYS went back to WHAT I believe and what I saw and witnessed. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I HAVE NO IDEA IF THERE WAS MONEY IN THE BAG HE THREW INTO THE RIVER - IF THERE WAS AND THERE IS A HIGH POSSIBLITY IT WAS - IS IT WHAT APPEARED ON TENA'S BAR OR WAS DUANE'S DISAPPEARANCE BEHIND THE HOUSE THE SOURCE OF THE MONEY. FRANKLY I THINK DUANE MADE A DEPOSIT AT TENA'S BAR AND AT THE RED LION! I WAS ALWAYS AFRAID TO MAKE THAT CLAIM, SO NOW YOU KNOW WHY I STATE I BELIEVE THERE WAS 4 DEPOSITS - ONLY ONE OF THEM WAS FOUND. You can look at fricking arials all you want - I know what was there in 1st 2wk of Sept 1979 and in 2001. You could access the beach from a gate to the water from a parking area under some trees. The gate and the parking lot were closer to the road and the house was closer to the river and on my right. Since you have PROBABLY NEVER EVER BEEN THERE - WHY DON'T YOU SIT THIS PART OUT. PROVE YOU PERSONALLY WENT TO TENA'S BAR IN 1971, 1979, 2001 AND 2010 THEN YOU CAN HAVE BRAGGING RIGHTS. USING PICTURES OR ARIALS THAT JUST MIGHT NOT HAVE THE RIGHT DATE IS NOT A GOOD THING. THE ARIELS USED COULD HAVE BEEN EARLIER THAT THE COMPLIATION OF THE MAP OR THE AREA. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I AM NOT STATING THEM DIFFERENTLY YOU ARE TAKING PHRASE FROM A POST AND NOT LOOKING OR READING WHAT WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT NOR THE TIME FRAMES. IT DOES MATTER WHEN AND WHERE AND WHAT YR. - THINGS CHANGED FROM 1971, 1979, 2001 AND 2021. IT IS NOT WHAT IS ON THE THREAD IT YOU TAKE INTO CONCEPT WHAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED BEFORE THAT. you STATED: YOU ARE DAMN RIGHT - WHAT THE FRICKING HELL TO YOU THINK I WAS AYING. THERE WAS NO BUILDING OR A LOTS OF EQUIPTMENT THERE IN 1979. IN 2001 WHEN I WAS TAKEN BY THE CREW AND WITH MR. H. THERE WAS STUFF THERE AND THAT WAS CONFUSING ME....ALL OF THAT STUFF WAS NOT THERE AND THE AREA WAS PRETTY CLEAR IN 1979. IN 2001 THERE WAS CLUTTER - THINGS THAT WERE NOT THERE BEFORE....BUT ONLY TO MY LEFT WHICH I GUESS IS EASTWARDLY. REMEMBER SINCE I AM NOT FOR THE AREA....WHEN I LOOK ACROSS THE RIVER AT TENA'S BAR - I FEEL I AM LOOING SOUTH - SO SET YOUR DIRECTION BY MY ORIENTATION WHIC IS NOT CORRECT, BUT HOW I THOUGHT THING WERE IN 1979. YES, I NOW KNOW THAT DIRECTELY ACROSS THE RIVER IS SW, BUT IT MAKES FOR CONFUSION WITH MY MEMORIES TO MAKE THE DIRECTIONS CORRECT. AGAIN - WE NEVER EVER STOPPED ON A BRIDGE - HE THREW A PACKAGE ABOUT THE SIZE OF A CANDY BAR OUT THE WINDOW OF A MOVING CAR. THAT WAS NORTH OF VANCOUVER ON A BRIDGE THAT WENT OVER TO ST.HELENS OREGON AND HE THREW WHAT EVER IT WAS OUT ON OUR WAY BACK TO WA. AND TO THE HIGHWAY THAT TOOK USE TO VANCOUVER. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

*** I am ready to start CUSSING. I have never stated WE STOPPED ON A bridge and I have clearly stated the route and the stops. I do NOT need this kind of harassment as this time and I could use some NOT to lady like words to tell you where to go right now! NEVER HAVE I INDICATED DUANE DUG UP ANY MONEY AT TENA'S BAR! I GAVE THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS AND YOU CAN'T READ THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM, BUT STOP INTERPRETING WHAT I SAY TO MAKE IT A TOTAL FARCE. DIGGING MONEY UP I WAS NOT WITH HIM. YOU CONFUSE THE TRIP TO SEATTLE WITH THE TRIP TO VANCOUVER - DAYS APART. THE DISTANCE BETWEEN TENA'S BAR AND THE RED LION ARE IRRELEVANT! UNLESS ONE BELIEVES THE RED LION TOSS MADE IT TO TENA'S BAR. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE I KNOW HE MADE A DEPOSIT AT TENA'S BAR AND THEN IN THE RIVER AT THE RED LION....MAYBE IT WAS ONLY TRASH, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS THE MONEY! NOW GO DO WITH YOURSELF WHAT EVER YOU WANT - BUT LEAVE ME AND LEAVE THE THINGS I HAVE SAID OUT OF IT. SICK OF READING THE WAY YOU TWIST THINGS! I AM TRYING TIE UP LOOSE ENDS! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I only backed off from Tena's bar because a young man told me to do so, but that WAS for a brief period of time. Since DAY one you can look at EVERYTHING I have including the letter I wrote to Himmelsbach - I kept saying it was Tena's bar - so I do NOT know what you are after. You sound like JERRY THOMAS who denied that I was at Lake LaCames - and he denied the Green Mt existed and then I found them when I found Lake LaCames in 2001 AFTER the crew left with locals (one being law enforcement ) you can verify they did exist and I am the one who took them there - the driver only followed my instructions. I didn't find that littel Green Signal Mt until 2010 - but is was ALL there. JT kept saying I said this or That and denied anything like that existed. They did and WE found them! Granted I explored things with you guys but I only backed away for Tena's bar when a certain poster asked that I back off in the thread - I thought he knew something I didn't know so I went along and IT WAS AGAINST my better judgement. JT also caused me yrs ago to back down - after all these guys lived there - I didn't. I thought maybe I got turned around but I DIDN"T and since I went back in 2010 I have NOT waivered. When it comes to memory time and space mean nothing. I do NOT know and have not looked up the distance between Tena's Bar and the Red Lion. I know it is not too far by water and the ride didn't take long at all. With the Crew and Himmeslbach in 2001 we were there fast - but a lot was going on in the car and with the activities. I do NOT know and I have not looked it up. I keep hoping that one day I will get back, but that is not going to happen. Besides with all of the developement what one could travel in five minutes now takes forever - same with the current area I live in. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

If in 2006 when this thread started if anyone of you had put bundles of 1$ bills in different places - we then might understand what happened. Wonder why Sleuths have NOT done this over the yrs? Just because of aging books and books that have been wet and then dry and stored in not such good conditions - I have seen a lot of this. Wish I had been able to do it and in the conditions as they are in WA and in several locations. After 8 yrs the answers would have been there on Cooper's river money! After 7 yrs you take the controlled cash from it hiding places and put in on the shore and see what it looks like 1 yr later! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, that was not very informative as Palmer never did any tests on the money and obviously the FBI did NOT follow through either. I am almost positive that Tosaw and Palmer had some discussions about this - but, Cook maybe the only only one who has any records - pertaining to this. It is a given the money was NOT in the Columbia for 8 yrs - science has proven that - but where was it? In order for the money to have been so compacted - it had to have been in place in a damp area without motion - NOT in the river. A damp leaking storage shed fits the bill on this, but were the hell was it! I am sure the storage shed was solid and dry in 1971 when Cooper put it there - but SHIT happens! Duane mention 3 place in OR where he knew people and all three he could have gone to on that morning at the DALLES! I will have to find a good OR map to find one of the places Duane talked about - it was on a river and before you got to Vancouver and on a road going to Government Camp in OR. The other place was near Hood. Anther place I think was too far inland, but a place he could have gone and returned in those missing hours...from The Dalles. I tend to think from something Duane said on our return trip after went thru Vancouver - a place he turned around and asked - "You want to go to Tahoe?" Something he said at this point or another point has bugged me for yrs. IF I feel like it later on this wk I will pull the best OREGON map I have and see if I can find the road. He mentioned knowing some guys who had a cabin in that area South of the point he turned around. Now that I think of it - maybe I should pull property records for that area. Seems like I did this excercise many many yrs ago and did contact some individuals in the area. I have so many damn files you guys would never believe any of it - 1000's and 1000's of pages of research - and they are only kept chronoglically. I would have to remember what yr I did that search on. I just never thought this would go on for 17 yrs and that I would get OLD doing it - I thought it would be over by now! If the FBI had tracked me in my search - it would be over. I have gone where NO one has ever gone and explored things NO one ever even thought to explore....all I was doing was trying to uncover the what I thought was the past of Duane. Some of these things have NEVER been discussed in the thread because I never considered them relevant. I remember I talked to some men who lived in this specific area - I remember the atmosphere as being hostile. What went on there was private! Some guys owned a cabin in OR and I found one or a man who knew the area. I hope I discussed this in the thread, but I doubt I did....if I did I would not have mentioned names otherwise some innocent people would have been harassed by Cooper searchers. I frankly believe it was PRE - DZ. So that give me a starting date - 2006 and go back. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

My appointment yesterday was with the hemotologist and I was supposed to have some blood work done yesterday ordered by another physician. The hemotogist added more tests and by the time I got to the lab it was too late and I was too hot and too tired. If they had drawn a drop of blood out of me yesterday - I probably would have passed out. Should have gone to the lab for test today, but was just too tired and they are coming to do the shutters at 2 PM today. The tests are to be done tomorrow and then the radiology is scheduled for next tuesday...unless they get an opening before then. It required 8 hours of fasting. I am on a list for any cancellation they have and if I feel any worse I am to go to the ER - per the radiology department - WELL, I have had two experiences with ER's in the last 7 yrs - so the only way anyone is going to get me into an ER is if they take me in an ambulance. They don't call me TOUGH COOKIE without cause! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Not sure about the levels. The level we entered on was the entertainment area and encompassed that entire level. Duane told me about the 2 master suite & second bar below and I do not know if there was another level below that. Some where on this boat which I think was aft of the main level was the preparation and chef area. I was only told about them and did not see them. THE BOAT'S NAME WAS commented on by Duane and he told the lady it was VERY appropriate. I do not remember it as I did NOT see it. I remember what I see and then what is said in relation to what I am seeing. I have never been able to pull from my memory the name of the boat - why I searched HIGH and LOW for the names of boats registered to someone by the name of Meier, but perhaps the boat was NOT register to them personally but to a Co-operation or an enitity as the man did have to cover some of he assets, because of what-ever crime he was convicted of. Duane asked about her children - specifically a daughter. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have explained this one before. I was upset with the crew because they wanted me to get down and pretend to be pushing away sand like the picture made of Brian in 1980. A lot was going on and there were lots of people and cameras (I am camera shy and do NOT like lots of people around me). The appearance of the beach from the parking area was the view I remembered. In 1979 - I did NOT leave the parking area and did not go down to the beach. How it looked from the beach is a hell of a lot different than it looked from the parking place. I wanted them to show me other places so I would be 100% sure this was it. Some things were there in 2001 that WHERE NOT there in 1979. Trees had changed and some building and equipment on my left as I faced the river....It was after left the crew on the river and went BACK up to the parking lot - and was alone that the doubts left me. I had absolutely NO doubts and after I asked Himmelsbach a question about a building on my right along the river as we drove to the Red Lion. We were in the back seat and I doubt the crew heard or cared about what he and I were talking about. Conversations were going all over the place...and At one point before we got to the Red Lion and on the North Side of the road they started to talk about Flushing channels, but we had passed whatever was being pointed out by the time I looked in that direction. (THEY drove VERY fast by my Southern standards). They were trying to do a lot in the few hours we had. Much of the conversation was over my head and remember I had not been there since 1979 with Duane. Each time I have been there - things have changed. 1979, 2001 and 2010. There is a difference between - expectations and memories and to revisit an area 22 yrs later.......! Frankly I doubt you youngsters could have done this - 22 yrs after the fact. Try to remember a place you visited in 1979 very briefly and then 22 yrs later GO back. THINGS change and you have to look beyond what is new and ask questions if this was not there or was there at specific times. THIS is what I did. I ASKED them to take me to similar places - I wanted to be sure and I have NOT changed my stand on that...I needed to be re-assured that it was NOT a similar place and nothing else was even close. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Mr. and Mrs Meier lived in Vegas and Chicago . Mr. Meier had to do some time and went to Canada. I did not under stand their conversaiot and tey took the ocnversation out of my range of hearing. There was a comment about the name of the yacht - 4 stories TALL - BIGGEST AND ONLY YACHT i WAS EVER ON. THE BOAT'S NAME WAS THE CENTER OF ATTENION, BUT I do not remember it. Havin a bunch of lab test tomorow and an abdominal ultra sound.Hopefully I will report back I still have a heart, but they are looking for the big boys - carcinois masses. That will mean starting on injections into my addomin - understand it is very painful. Don't talk to badly about me while I am away - the injections whoud be in a hospital about an hours driver was and then I still have to get home - just keeping my fingers crosssed. Like to get thru one whole day with a smile on mu face, /very tired! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger it makes sense there was some kind of paper work. Palmer and those people did NOT volunteer their time and I am sure the FBI asked for help on this. Yes, if there was a report one would think the FBI had it. Unrealistic to think a man who takes on such an assignment - be it volunteered or paid, would do all of that work and NOT make some notes and preliminary reports of some kind. Like the cigarette butts - LOST! This Palmer thing goes back to 1980. Any one doing that kind of research and asked to state an opinion of his find - would have done a report. LOGIC! It may only have been consider a letter of opinion, but you can be assured there was some kind of paperwork and if there was and IF Galen is telling the truth about his relationship with Tosaw - that is where it is. I guess I should dig up all of my old communications with Cook and see if that is not where Palmer's opinions where first stated. I kept paper copies of all communications with Cook! I thought he was a sneaky snake in the grass so I made sure - I printed the emails we exchanged. Perhaps it was in a verbal exchange with Tosaw, but he and I had only a hand full of conversations in the yrs before he died. Before I met Duane's brother in 2004. John and I discussed Tosaw at the dinner table and I told him I had no use for the man as I felt he was very opinionated. This is when John told me he and his wife personally knew Tosaw from bible study and church and a boat club prior to their moving to their then current address. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You mean Duane was an iceberg? Worked with Santa? Knew Rudolph? Holy Moses! Cook was GLACIER BOY not COOPER! Yea, Weber did work with SANTA - in fact he like to play SANTA leaving packages and bags of groceries & gift for families who HAD nothing for Christmas. Weber had a GOOD heart! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

This has been said before and I will repeat I explained the hows and whys and at that time I even went BACK to the posts referred to. I do NOT have the stamina to do that anymore, but ALL of that was explained and I expect it is probably very close to the explanation I offered in the post just prior to this one. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Number one - If I said Duane was NO where near Tena's bar - it has to be taken out of context or something stated in pure frustration. I have maintained since get go the place Duane took me. I described it in detail to Himmelsbach and I didn't even have a damn map and any picture I saw at that time were in Max Gunther's book. The only thing about the 2001 trip with Himmelsbach and the media - WAS the APPROACH not feeling right. The beach was dead on. This could have been when JT was harassing me also. The arial pictures posted on the thread - the house did NOT seem right. BUT, visual pictures of the house and the house I saw in 2001 was the same house I saw in 1979...the same beach and the same fence & trees (except larger) and the gate. What threw me was the approach and Himmelsbach and I straightened that out after we got back in the car and headed toward the Red Lion. I asked Himmelsbach (he and I were in the back seat) about some building on my right along the river. It was the approach. They didn't approach Tina's bar as Duane and I approached it. I have also explained that I am very very camera shy and the confusion that was going on with the crew. I wanted them to take me West of there - because I wanted to be sure, but I did NOT change it. IF you go back to the conversations - I believe this was when JT was giving me a hard time on the thread. THere was also someone else in the thread around that time who didn't want me to blow HIS theory out of the water. In frustration I may have thrown my hands up and just went along for a short period of time. I did this to appease another person, but if you go further you will find I walked away from the confusion and stayed with what I knew and remembered. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

U guys have been at this for 7 yrs now and NOT one person has ever seen the report (actually it was a letter) Palmer did to reaffirm to Tosaw his findings. HA! I just as well give you a little something else to think about! GALEN COOK supposedly was given some things that Tosaw left for him - but, NO ONE knows if this is true. Cook who was a kid when TOSAW did his searching - supposedly helped on the river. I do NOT remember from where I found this information or if it is true. Only Cook knows the truth about this. Tosaw does not mention Galen by name in his book! Oh Well GLACIER BOY really got around. Why do not one of you ask Cooper why I call him Glacier Boy? I did NOT learn about GLACIER BOY with out a lot of HELP, but my knowledge of this - sure did impress Galen Cook! Nap Time for this old lady at 4 PM on this Tuesday in Sept 2013. Think about Glacier Boy and the Palmer information - IT was 1980 and I assure YOU there was a written accounting of this man's findings as they were done in an official capacity. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber