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Always a riddle. Always a tease. That's our Jo. Straight forward and direct just isn't on the program. But one can always hope. My list of promised Jo revelations is getting pretty long. May have to scan it and put it on a flash drive. So many promised blockbusters. The FBI doesn't stand a chance. They should surrender before she attacks. 377 Concerning the Cooper Unrelated project I am working on - perhaps the FBI does need to prepare for an attack. You did understand the current project is NOT Cooper related, but if I am right it will PROVE the FBI either hides things or just IGNORES things and lends itself to orders coming from elsewhere. THIS is real. Now unrelated information: I am trying to keep busy so I do not think about what I have done and awaiting the results. It is hard to keep secrets - frankly I do not know how WEBER kept his own secret for so long - but he did! It was self satisfaction that he actally got one over on the FBI - he didn't get caught. He was in his late 40's and he had no future. He always got caught. With his attitude and the illness creeping up on him - he just decided to do the BIG ONE. He did NOT expect to survive or GET away, but - SO WHAT! He was going to die anyway and would be living off of the street. That was his attitude at that point in his life....He knew the end was evident. (in 1970 dialysis was very primitive. He actually spent several months making the plans - something NONE of you knew. It was NOT just choosing a location - but knowing the location and being able to obtain the information needed. His adopted family was basically living from hand to mouth other than the support the kids recieved and what the wife made. He had been in the hospital (1969 - 1970)- but he met another person in that hospital - they became friends & shared hard times and ideas. The Emory hospital records in 1996 when I contacted the FBI were available, but I thought the FBI was going to be investigating this. Well - they didn't - but the ex-wife told me a few things but, I was never able to add the details - such as who was this other man and what was his name. Was he the same man Duane spent weekends with in AL (supposedly) or was he an OLD insurance agent who like Duane felt defeated. I do not know what the illness was of the room-mate. The exwife told me Duane spent a lot of wk-ends with a man who only picked Duane up and they would be gone all week-end. All she knew was he had DARK hair and about Duane's height. Duane NEVER brought the man to the door or introduced her to him. It was during this time Duane asked his wife to buy him some Dickies - work jumpsuits that buttoned or zipped up the front. Ok that is all of the unrelated CRAP I have to unload on U guys at this time. Have to get the phone line freed up incase I get a call this afternoon....but the materials might not arrive until Sat - at any rate staying busy so I don't over think and prepare myself for the fact this other project might NOT get off the ground! Even if it is a failed TAKE OFF - I will let you guys know what is going on. Then you can have a lot of fun at my expense while you laugh so hard that even after you pull that pin on the can - you can't drink from laughing so hard. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, Mark we may never know exactly what REALLY Happened, but what I have been involved in the last few days may provide a LOT of food for thought. Well, I'll tell you what, Jo: After our meeting last weekend with Scott Mitchell and hearing his story, you're one who doesn't run off when her story is challenged. Gotta respect that. Consider that a compliment, but who is Scott Mitchell? I try NOT to be repetitive or hound the witnesses or take Enquirer type pictures or show up on their door. Zero conversations with Florence, in 17 yrs. - 1 conversation with Tina. Then maybe 4 calls (in 17 yrs) I left warnings about a reporter we all know...and delivered a message from the co-pilot. Mitchell in 2001 and recently with the new pics. Some seem to alienate indviduals - and then THEY shut down. Some want to ring his neck as he FLOWERS stories with his own unrelated thoughts - and some people do NOT like that. If You present yourself as a report - treat the interview like that of a reporter. If you let them know up front - you are peddling a book or you will only tell the story your way (not as an objective reporter) let them know that up front also. Grey Cop sounds like several who have contacted me over the yrs. One guy contacting me the last 9 months - is constantly changing his story and has a melt down if I disagree with him. Better to just humor him and then get off and say out loud after you hang up "Damn NUT!" When strange things start happening - like Cossey's murder - you start backing off and double locking your door and setting the alarms and if you see a car come up and down your street in the wee hours of the morning - that does not belong - it can get a little hairy. Best thing about exploring the subject my way. You guys can't see me roll my eyes or stick my tongue out at you OR hear me when I tell you were to go. If I didn't believe and have lived with Duane for 17 yrs even I might think I was a little looney. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Yup. You got my number Jo. Why waste your time on what you refer to as an unrelated FBI matter? How will proving the FBI screwed up in some other case help you prove Duane was Cooper? If your remaining life is short you shouldn't pursue tangential matters. 377 Ummm Well, let's see! Uhh well it is like this - it is related sort of and ah ah real weird way. BELIEVE me as soon as I know YOU will know in a PM. Hell, it could be a DEAD end, but I will wait and see. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, Mark we may never know exactly what REALLY Happened, but what I have been involved in the last few days may provide a LOT of food for thought. I GOT fed up with the FBI and moved on information I thought would NOT be important in the investigation of Cooper and in my case Weber. It is very difficult NOT to contain myself and won't know the results for a couple of day. I have NEVER felt this good about a move (a risk) I have just made. NO I did NOT sign a contract or anything like that! IF I can debunk the FBI on regarding the investigation of a supposedly unrelated subject then it just MIGHT debunk the entire Cooper investigation. ALL I can say at this time. If it proves to be wrong - then I will spell out what I have just done at a later day and then you guys can laugh me out of the thread. I am following my GUT and I HOPE, doing the right thing. 377 - I can hear you thinking & you will verbalize - "OH, No! Jo is at it again". Well, I never stopped and I never gave up completely. What I am working on will NOT prove Duane Weber was Cooper, but it will unhinge the FBI's efforts regarding Weber. I started to call them and let them know what I was doing, but this post is as close as I will get to doing that at this time. Since Duane is NOT a suspect I do not expect them to be monitoring my contacts....other than to think "WHAT the HELL is she up to NOW?" I explored this part of Duane's life before - but, now a statement made by Florence to Geoffry Grey seems very appropriate at this time. "May you are on to something". Since I knew I had NOT lied or fabricated the things I told the thread & the FBI about my knowledge of Duane past - I knew I could not leave this world without making a stand on this Cooper unrelated subject. There are 2 individuals who know what I am doing - and they are excited. It could BLOW up in my face! My heart knows it will NOT put Weber on that Damn Plane, but will provide fodder for the FBI to reinvestigate Weber. IF I debunk the FBI regarding another investigation - What will that do to the Cooper case. What I am doing could also make a BIG fool out of me - but, I have let this one thing just ride along in my back pocket for many yrs. I was NOT pro-active and I did NOT follow my gut instinct. NOW since everyone thinks I am a complete LOONEY - I did what I should have done YRS ago. I was afraid of being proven wrong and laughed at. NOW - I don't care. When all has been said - WHAT did I NOT do and WHAT did the FBI NOT do? What SHOULD I do. I have put unrelated Cooper thing this into the hands of God. NO one will be made the fool of other than myself if I am wrong. What I think I know - may free someone else. I chased this memory before, but it was just gut feelings & memories unrelated to connecting Weber to Cooper. I unleashed this memory today - because I finally acquired the information to do so. THIS will probably blow up in my face like so many other things I chased, but for the first time I feel I am letting it ALL go - NO holds barred. I have to do this for myself and if I am right - Lucy, the FBI has some explaining to do...and I this does NOT infer anything Cooper related (at least I don't think so). Repeated it again - give me about 20 minutes before you copy my postings. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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You did it again and posted before I edited the post, Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

*** But, the hijacking did happen, so somebody did it. It's a great story and I'd like to how it really happened. Well, Mark we may never know exactly what REALLY Happened, but what I have been involved in the last few days may provide a LOT of food for thought. I GOT fed up with the FBI and moved on information I thought would NOT be important in the investigation of Cooper and in my case Weber. It is very difficult NOT to contain myself and won't know the results for a couple of day. I have NEVER felt this good about a move (a risk) I have just made. NO I did NOT sign a contract or anything like that! IF I can debunk the FBI regarding the investigation of a supposedly unrelated subject then it just MIGHT debunk the entire Cooper investigation. ALL I can say at this time. If it proves to be wrong - then I will spell out what I have just done at a later day and then you guys can laugh me out of the thread. I am following my GUT and I HOPE, doing the right thing. 377 - I can hear you thinking & you will verbalize - "OH, No! Jo is at it again". Well, I never stopped and I never gave up completely. What I am working on will NOT prove Duane Weber was Cooper, but it will unhinge the FBI's efforts regarding Weber. I started to call them and let them know what I was doing, but this post is as close as I will get to doing that at this time. Since Duane is NOT a suspect I do not expect them to be monitoring my contacts....other than to think "WHAT the HELL is she up to NOW?" I explored this part of Duane's life before - but, now a statement made by Florence to Geoffry Grey seems very appropriate at this time. "Maybe you are on to something". Since I knew I had NOT lied or fabricated the things I told the thread & the FBI about my knowledge of Duane past - I knew I could not leave this world without making a stand on this Cooper unrelated subject. There are 2 individuals who know what I am doing - and they are excited. It could BLOW up in my face! My heart knows it will NOT put Weber on that Damn Plane, but will provide fodder for the FBI to reinvestigate Weber. IF I debunk the FBI regarding another investigation - What will that do to the Cooper case. What I am doing could also make a BIG fool out of me - but, I have let this one thing just ride along in my back pocket for many yrs. I was NOT pro-active and I did NOT follow my gut instinct. NOW since everyone thinks I am a complete LOONEY - I did what I should have done YRS ago. I was afraid of being proven wrong and laughed at. NOW - I don't care. When all has been said - WHAT did I NOT do and WHAT did the FBI NOT do? What SHOULD I do. I have put this unrelated Cooper thing this into the hands of God. NO one will be made the fool of other than myself if I am wrong. What I think I know - may free someone else. I chased this memory before, but it was just gut feelings & memories unrelated to connecting Weber to Cooper. I unleashed this memory today - because I finally acquired the information to do so. THIS will probably blow up in my face like so many other things I chased, but for the first time I feel I am letting it ALL go - NO holds barred. I have to do this for myself and if I am right - Lucy, the FBI has some explaining to do...and I this does NOT infer anything Cooper related (at least I don't think so). Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Hard to find - I have one of a kind. A book marked and tagged on the phone with the author Max Gunther and at his request. I have everything marked that was actually relayed to him by Clara. I have letters from Max and he was a very genuine and comlex person. 99% of his book is fiction. I suggest YOU go back and read what I tediously posted in this thread. You grey cop are a phoney! Real reseaarchers do NOT ask to be rewarded - we seek only the truth and do OUR best to keep in step. You on the other hand SIDESTEP everything you say with statements that SHOW your only motive is to be heard and noted and that you seek financial reward for your nonsensical gibberish. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Go right back at em via Wall St eh? Boeing stock bought in Nov-Dec 71 has gone up roughly 10X at todays price. Not a bad call Mr Cooper. 377

You know damn well that I write and compose my post directly to the thread & make my corrections after I have posted (how well you know as you have responded in the past before I could catch my errors). I can only correct errors if I see them within a narrow span of time - such as the time I used your REAL name Georgie Porgie! Bruce adds too much "pork" to his writings about REAL things - other than this a pretty good writer. Reminds me of the 1st books edited by a local club. My sister is very active in a resort area with a book club there - she was the co-ordinator for the conventions and made attempts to write her 1st book. Never published & will not be until she is deceased. This is how I have met individuals such as James Patterson, Retired FBI writers...etc. P.S. I am not a writer & have never tried to write anything other than short articles...about life experiences. The Tangle Forest & Golden Locket & 22 Yrs Ago. I did WOW a college professor my first yr in college in 1958. IT was our 1st class and we had 45 minutes. He told us to write a true story about an actual event in our life. Hell, my life was nothing. Just school & the farm. These RICH kids in this highly esteemed college would not be interested in any story I had to tell. Well, we had our assembly which included ever student in this college & the professor read a story written by a male student & then announces he wanted to read my story. He had not been able to reach me for permission. He asked me right there in front of all of those RICH kids. By the way - I worked the dining room to pay for room & board. My father payed the tuition - I also worked in a department story on Sat. for spending money & clothes. He claimed it was the most compelling story he had ever read composed in 45 minutes. PROBLEM! "GLUP" Shamefully, The story was true! I told him this afterward & he reduced my A+ with a SMILE. He then told me it was still the best he had ever read by a 1st yr student considering my major was science...and to never stop writing. I started it truthfully, but I didn't know where it was going - it was just something I did everyday of my life ....and when I got down to the last line there was no ending - the time was up and I was in a corner with 3 minutes to end it or tie it together. I insinuated something that was not true and never happened...in that last LINE! The professor respected my honesty in coming forth and told me never to stop writing. Well I never gave it a thought - writing that is, but I wrote the two shorts NO one has ever read. Just things in my life I felt needed to be written down...they made me feel better. One was about my mother and the other about my break-up with a wonderful man who I ran into 22 yrs later...but the relationship was NOT renewed. How many words was this? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

(Sarcastically) THANK you for your concern. I can read and post but - it is very difficult. Every thing seems to be very light in color and very small and my co-ordination is off. This happened in just a couple of wks - ignored it until the last couple of days...also pain over my left eye. Thought it was medication I was taking - but nothing in the warnings regarding vision. Maybe the medication has cause a rapid acceleration of my cataracs, but the Dr. said with the last exam I was a 3 or 4 yrs away from that. Maybe the drugs changed that! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

We are still trying to connect to the Anglin sister - there are 2 of them. There has been NO results from the COLD CASE files and they were NOT interested enough to present the picture of Ed to them or acknowledge the request. If ANYONE can find a phone number or address for either sister - please provide it. I want them to have the picture of Ed from 1983. Wonder what the post mark was on the 2 cards they received after the escape? I think they should be the judge - not someone who never knew John who filters any information or leads they might like to have. I want them to SEE the picture and the relate the story of how Ed said he knew Duane. Period - it will be up to them to investigate it further. There are or were people still alive who knew John and went to his funeral in MS. He left behind a long time companion who was still alive 2 yrs ago. All I can do is provide them with contact numbers of individuals who knew ED - if they think the man in that picture was their brother. I have exhausted all I can to find them. Maybe someone else can get their contact information. They are in the 80's and were alive 2 yrs ago. They will know who ZONA was as that was the tattoo on Clarence's arm. Zona is a rare name Duane said his daughter was named Zona. Duane ASKED Ed how ZONA was that first time I met him in Denver, CO. At that time I did NOT know DUane's daughters name was Zona and to this day do NOT know if he really had a daughter named Zona. Born approx 1943....mother's name supposedly Edna....at least that was his explanation for the tattoo on his arm. Who was the Zona that Clarence knew and cared enough about to tattoo her name on his arm? My memory wants to say it was Tommy who Duane asked about Zona....but in 1983 I knew Duane's daughter was named Zona (so he had told me). Therefore it is logical that Ed was the one he inquired about Zona with. If it had been Tommy - I think I might have asked questions in regards to Zona. This again is one of my life experiences with the man I knew as Duane L. Weber also know as John Collins from 1962 to 1968. The information I relate regarding Duane Weber is true and NOT fabricated - if anyone can help me contact the Anglin sisters - PLEASE help. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Having problems seeing the screen lately so reading the post is difficult. Don't know if it is the medications or the other problems going on. In just a 3 wk period of time - the screen has become very difficult to read. At first I thought the DZ had changed something, but then I noticed when I make a right turn in my car I am cutting the corner. Calling the eye doctor tomorrow for a quick look at my eyes - just had them examined about 6 months ago. At any rate after reading all of the mumbo jumbo and bickering about opinions of who said what - glad I did not attempt to go nor was I invited. Beside everyone KNOWS I freeze in a crowd. Actually I go silent - surprised! As VOCAL and LOUD as I get in the thread one would think otherwise. I hate crowds and do NOT speak publically other than in this thread. When I TALK (vocalize) it is in ONE on ONE conversations. That is my LIMIT. Seems from all of the postings that the symposium was NOT fruitful. If it was filled with misnomers - it is a waste of resources. Sound more like it was exchanges of a lot of inaccurate information and propaganda. To anyone who is INTERESTED - JO WEBER does NOT give a HOOT were the plane was. I only tell what I know and what was told to me. What Duane said - the places he talked about, the places he took me too - that is all I know. That would be the trip in 1979. 2001 with a documentary crew - who did not know the area...and had NO clue of the places I described nor time to investigate. 2010 - a 15 day trip by myself and rented a car for 14 days. That one was the eye opener. Outside of this - is ALL I know other than the things I discovered about Weber in these 17 yrs....things he did NOT tell me. I truely wish I was able to make another trip - but that will not be possible. I actually do not have much more to add and to those who think anything I have told depends on any of the proposed fight paths - as I said I know nothing about this and how it affects where Cooper landed or didn't land other than what has been proposed in this thread. Has become too difficult and tedious for me to try to sort out all of the mumbo jumbo that has been exchanged over the yrs. Regardless of the out come any of this has - I do want Duane's ashes dropped from a plane over the areas he told me so much about and the areas he took me to. For SOME REASON they were important to him. I nor anyone else may ever know the answers and what I do have that NO ONE else has - is his confession. Only my EARS heard it - but I cannot imagine anyone confessing to something they did NOT do - when DEATH was just around the corner. When he told me - he had just removed himself from the machine and I was told he would pass in 5 days. I forget now how many days it took him to expire, but I have the old records of his hospital stays and the note I made in my planner as I sat by his bedside. Before I could rattle off the dates and the times - but NO MORE. I am tired. I have given it all I had to give and more. He has to KNOW I have NO more to give. I am very tired and it has become tedious and very tiring to continue to fight a battle I cannot win. I TRIED! I HAVE NO MORE TO GIVE! like the song he sang to me on our wedding night. YOU"LL NEVER KNOW IF YOU DON'T KNOW NOW I have told all I know and I refuse to MAKE - UP stuff to satisfy those who want it to be more than what it really is. I WOULD APPRECIATE IF NO COMMENTS WHERE MADE ABOUT THIS POST. IF YOU WISH TO EXCHANGE PERSONAL EMAILS AND DEMEAN ME - PLEASE DO SO IN PMS...NOT ON THE THREAD. Most of you KNOW no more than I do about the facts of the case. U may possess knowledge that gived you an edge (like being a pilot or living in WA), but that does NOT make any of your opinions more valid than those made by others......NONE of YOU were ON THAT PLANE nor did YOU witness anything on the ground. All anyone has is whatever the authorities have felt needed to be made public....and fragments of things from the media. The media dresses their articles - each trying to out do the other - yet things did filter down thru the media NOT in any reports ever made public by the FBI. IF anyone feels I should know - I would appreciate a copy of the FBI file's that were recently made public. Remember I am COMPUTER illiterate when it come to more than a simple search or posting on this thread or doing email. Thank YOU Shutter for the PRISON photo. I think I will remember that until the day I close my eyes for the last time....even when I can no longer remember - I will have that - and it is something I can hold in my hands. What Duane Weber was and what he became! Maybe that is all that is IMPORTANT. Duane in his last acceptance speech took no credit for his success, but let everyone know it was the GUYS who the Manager of the YR award belonged. Not a dry eye in the room that night. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

DO not get hysterical - just contradicts what the Co-pilot told me. As long at the path has some reasonability for Cooper to have landed near the areas Duane mentioned and for him to have had access to reach certain area. I definitely do NOT know were Cooper landed. I just know the places Duane spoke about and showed me. The little senario I wrote about what I thougt - means nothing....it was places he talked about and places he took me. You can bet if Cooper landed WEST of Battleground or WEST or near La Center - there are witnesses who will put you to shame that are still living. If it makes you feel better - Duane told me about a cemetary not to far from La Center and he also told me about Paradise Park and Toutle , It is a given the placard landed near Toutle and that Cooper could have landed between Amboy and Chelatchie. He could also have landed closer to Yale which would explain the Yale/Cougar siting. Even there the would have walked east and away from where they would be looking for him.He still went right back at them, but without the package - and with a change of closes he was ok. TOO many WITNESS - claimed the plane was over head an Below as it approached and area just BELOW Amboy. If anything Cooper was headed to a car left at Homan or another area near there. You are NOT aware that where the Pomerory Living Farms are located was an excellent place for Cooper to land. but once on land it was Go EAST Young man. I didn't get to all of the places,One palace had 4 witness's I he jumped at taht poing then ther put him drifiting To tired to talk about somehtin I know little I no about. I am falling asleep on the computer' FbY seeya later. HE still spent a night neaf at a tower off of Basketflight Road Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

If the FBI had asked the right questions to the right people maybe just maybe there would be evidence. If the FBI had told me when I contacted them - to give them the names of people they need to requestion - Maybe there would have been evidence. Example the girl who worked the garage sale - what did she do with the book that was NOT a book that Duane Told her to SET ASIDE. A book with a hollowed out center with papers in it. What happened to those papers and what happened to that book? Weber Confessed to the crime - that is something the "others" did NOT do and the "OTHERS" did not come to the surface until "OTHERS" decided there was MONEY & fame in declaring their suspect as Cooper. Jo Weber only spoke with the FBI and friends for several yrs after she contacted the FBI. She looked at, but rejected the offers - WHY? Because she wanted to know the truth! As for circumstancial Evidence - had the FBI approached Weber in earnest - they might have found evidence. Such as the BANK DEPOSIT box in OMAHA...just proof of its existence would have helped - but Carr said it COULD NOT BE DONE! Well, if the FBI had provided me with the JEFFERSON file I as his wife could have done so. BUT, the FBI chose to deny me the PROOF I needed to prove JOHN C. COLLINS was DUANE L. WEBER. 377 is an attorney - why don't you ask him about this. I did NOT have the money to pay an ATTORNEY to preserve my right and to go up against the FBI. Jo WEBER does NOT participate in FRAUD or Fabricate "stuff". SHE has sought the truth since day one, but the FBI provided NO evidence or records to facilitate an earnest search in 1996. The widow as at their mercy. She called and actually endangered her own life contacting one person from Weber's life who threatened her. The FBI was informed of that contact and what the man said to her. I do agree there are those who have facilitated and fabricated so called 'proof' their suspect was actually a suspect. I did NOT do that! I have tried to research Weber's past against all odds and risking my integrity and life in the process. Intergrity and honesty are 2 things I judge myself by. Without that - then life is a lie. Jo Weber has PROMOTED nothing and has not made one red cent off of this - and in the process sacrificed certain aspects of her life - financially and mentally and physically. WHY, because I need to know the truth about the man I spent 17 yrs with. I HELD the proof in my hands in 1994 - but THE DUMB BUNNY I AM - didn't know what I had discoverd just a few months before Weber died. Damn Me! SO DAMN STUPID! You are damn right I have used my age & illness because I have nothing left with which to fight the battle. WHY the hell do you think I exposed myself to this thread in 2006. Go back to the first post I made in the first thread. I wanted to know the truths about Weber and who the hell I was married to for 17 yrs. I certainly didn't do this for fame or money! I did not write a book or make a movie! I promote absolutely ZERO and have offered the bulk of anything that could result - to make changes in the penal system. Hoping beyond all hope it might save another man from making drastic decisions and bad decisions that harm the lives of others. I could care less about the flight path - it means nothing to me and if it did I am not skilled enough to understand it...I have exhausted my life and my livelyhood into doing what I could do. I am not the FBI - I do NOT have their records - INVESTIGATING Weber is what the FBI should have done. JO is one person and without the funds or skills to have lauched her own investigation other than the way she had done so - enlisting the help of the DZ and others. Hell, now I am speaking of myself in third person and second person. I jump from speaking of myself in the second person to the first person or is that a third person also. THIS journey has been COSTLY in terms of my health, my mind and my resources - but I do NOT regret it. IT does make me ANGRY that some individuals think this is just a play ground and it is a hobby with them. This is a personal JOURNEY for me and it has been costly - but, I do NOT regret the JOURNEY nor the cost. I regret there have been so many Jerks along the way and so many Cooper wannabe's given birth to who did NOT really care about solving the crime. They wanted to hear themselves talk and to created a suspects of their own to benefit financially. THAT was not my goal....THERE have been offers! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The problem with others versus what Jo Weber has said - is that she was Married to the man for 17 yrs and I will swear to you and any court of law - that I have NOT made up anything about Weber. What I have been doing recently is trying to tell everything I know and have heard about the man. Since his past is elusive - all I have is what family, criminal records, thing he told me and what friends have told me. Tracking Duane's past even the FBI failed at. They had lots of blank spaces they just summed into one space - even the FBI could NOT fill in the blank spaces....because now the records are too vague for certain periods of time. Too many missing yrs and yrs NOT explained. It is interesting how other try to blend the yrs together, but they are NOT looking at sign ins and sign outs and his life when NOT in the system. The loop holes from 1945 to 1949 are not concurrent nor intact. 1962 to 1966 is a total blank - the FBI nor anyone else has been able to fill in these blank yrs......ask yourself WHY? Perhaps they are under ORDERS not to go there - whoever THEY are. The broken record from 1945 to 1949 just does not pan out (there are records they just do not know where to look for them).Even the 1958 to 1960 has too many loops in it. The 1962 to 1966 he is off the map completely. HELL this thread had to produce the 1958 arrest in St. Pete. Sure you guys like to summarize - but too much of the time you are NOT looking at how the system REALLY worked for those periods. Sure there are some of you who think he was in custody during those entire blank times- but there is NO written trail presented. Just summaries. Duane did spend MOST of his adult life in prison or behind bars in one establishment after another....but, what You don't have is BLACK & WHITE sign in and sign out charts. Much of his time was spent in work farms and camps during these so called cloudy times - JUST who was he in association with and what was he doing to pay back society....was he picking apple or was he cleaning up and cooking at a jump camp. When he was incarcerated what was his work detail and who were his cell mates. Back in those days they didn't transport them to their destination. Duane's sister picked him up from Canon City - I have the damn detailed record...did she give him some money and send him hitch-hiking down the road or was he assigned to a camp to aid his transition back into society...how and why did he use and obtain the John Collins ID? Today a man is paroled and he has to report to a parol officer - NOT how it worked in the early yrs. BE ASSURED I am not twisting any records or adding any flowery stories about Duane's life. Things he told me and things the family told me. Duane was a puzzling man and I will state that up front. I do NOT believe he was lieing about his past - he was trying to tell me about his past - in 1990 he had absolutely ZERO to gain and he also risked my turning my back on him and walking away. Such as mentioning that he had worked for a carnival! It is now only in retrospect that I am trying to piece the little he did tell me about his life and get some kind of idea what it was like to live the life he chose. What made this man loved and respected by some and what made him hated and disgusting to others. Three known wives including myself - we each knew a DIFFERENT man....but the same man. Duane was NOT simple he was very complex. If I was trying to write a book as other do about suspects they never met and knew nothing about - one could say I was a vendor. I do not fit the category as a vendor. Cooper or NOT - I want to know everything there is or was about Weber. I want paper trails - and there are not many. Too many interpetation of the vague record everyone and the FBI has compiled. That is a given. In the day - some ex-cons seem to just disappear for long periods of times. If he was not a murder or rapist or some other type of violent criminal - the authorities didn't care until the next time he appeared under their radar. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I am saying Duane Weber fits the profile. Troubled young man who stayed in trouble and never fit the mold and was an out-cast by the family. His first experience with prison was in WA and a connection to the CCC's by way of programs to ease the over-crowding of McNeil during that time. These were HIS first CLOSE friends. Indians, War encampments, work farms, other encarcerated individuals, fair workers, road workers and yet he came from a middle class family and was taught manners and respect. He was actually a kind man - but to the underdog. He fought the establishment so to speak. The only friends Duane had during this time of his life until after the skyjacking had consisted of the types I have listed above. The only work he could get that allowed him to use his "manners" and not be doing hard manual work - was that of a food service worker - the mainstay of his employment until 1973. When Duane left Jefferson - he worked large Banquets - because of his manners & he was a hard think on his feet worker. One banquet he worked was for Bob Hope! Until his success in the insurance field - that banquet was the highlight of his life. He worked as a doorman in New Orleans and Colorado. This was a man who knew how to use his charm and manners to gain entry into a world he wanted to be a part of. His brother who worked for Boeing made sure Duane received NO funds from the estate of his parents.... 1971 - With a criminal record and the medial employment available to ex-cons & the diagnosis of a hereditary kidney disease - he BLEW emotionally. He had not made any money in 1971 and could not support his family. According to the wife he had one of his explosive episodes. She claimed she did not know where he was in NOV and DEC of 1971. Yet, they are back together for New Yrs even in N.Y. Duane wants more than she could ever be - so he gets involved with a woman from a professional background. When his wife is told of his affair in 1972 she has a break down and tries to harm herself. They divorced in 1972 and 2 months later he remarries. The new wife came from a professional family. He had actually met this woman before 1972, but obviously she had rebuffed him because of his associations (won't touch that one with a 10 ft pole). Duane could charm people with his personality, but eventually his lack of a formal education would show through. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. Duane's background became known to the woman - and that was part of the problem with the marriage. She found out what he was and this is when the BIG problems started. It was an on again - off again marriage for 5 yrs. His friend who did NOT know of his background told me he moved that hidebed one time too many. I met Duane after the divorce - in fact the day he had left divorce court. I expect he was looking for his next victim - but, something happened. Not sure what happened! I just know we made the marriage last for 17 yrs and it was NOT bad. We moved a lot, but I adapted and he was a great father...he handled situations I could never have handled. He was a great negotiator and could sell with his charm. He was a terrible lover, but he could make a woman feel like she was treasured and loved...it was just a chemistry created by his personality. I also did NOTdig into his past. No one is perfect. Something interesting I remembered - Duane had worked for a carnival in my hometown when I was a teenager. I didn't know this until after we were married and he made a comment on a trip we made to Ky when I showed him were I was born and where I was raised. I had been taught NEVER to talk with carnival workers " the traveling" men who could get no other kind of work. It was also very interesting that when Duane found out I was a Collins (on our first meeting) he became very interested in my family name. Of course I found out years later WHY - when a patrol man came to my door in 1990 asking if I knew the man on the blank license card with the name John Collins. This is when tried & did successfully obtain a drivers license under that name...and when he had to reveal to me the Jefferson prison stay as John Collins. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Since Georger didn't seem to read this - perhaps I need to repost it and the picture I attached. See Below. P.S. TWO white guys with an Indian, Mexican, Italian or German? Many do not realize that the Germans had varing colors of complexions depending on the origin. Duane was darker than anyone in his family, but he and his brother looked like brothers. The sister had a relatively fair complexion....Duane had olive undertones but then with a suntan it was called Ruddy in the prison records. As Clara stated - she described Cooper complexion comparing it to the color of mahogony - if I remember correctly. It definitely was NOT that dark but it would get a reddish brown with the gray/olive undertones. I never knew him to use any sun protectors Or tanning lotions. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

P.S. TWO white guys with an Indian, Mexican, Italian or German? Many do not realize that the Germans had varing colors of complexions depending on the origin. Duane was darker than anyone in his family, but he and his brother looked like brothers. The sister had a relatively fair complexion....Duane had olive undertones but then with a suntan it was called Ruddy in the prison records. As Clara stated - she described Cooper complexion comparing it to the color of mahogony - if I remember correctly. It definitely was NOT that dark but it would get a reddish brown with the gray/olive undertones. I never knew him to use any sun protectors Or tanning lotions. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Since Georger didn't seem to read this - perhaps I need to repost it and the picture I attached. Why are you so mean?

Since Georger didn't seem to read this - perhaps I need to repost it and the picture I attached. See Below. P.S. TWO white guys with an Indian, Mexican, Italian or German? Many do not realize that the Germans had varing colors of complexions depending on the origin. Duane was darker than anyone in his family, but he and his brother looked like brothers. The sister had a relatively fair complexion....Duane had olive undertones but then with a suntan it was called Ruddy in the prison records. As Clara stated - she described Cooper complexion comparing it to the color of mahogony - if I remember correctly. It definitely was NOT that dark but it would get a reddish brown with the gray/olive undertones. I never knew him to use any sun protectors Or tanning lotions. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger Stated: I have absolutely NO IDea what you are babbling about Georger. I am NOT wanting or trying to change anything to anyone. I just wanted you to LOOK at this picture - Perhaps you missed it. This is Duane and some men he worked with - it was only for the purpose of establishing how dark Duane's complexion was in the early 70's. I then told you not to ask about the ear - because the pic is blurred. I then made a comment for you to notice SOMETHING ELSE in the photo unrelated to Weber. Reattaching the photo and would like to have your opinion of what you see in that photo. Do NOT concentrate on Weber - just look at it in it entirety. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have absolutely NO idea how JT is doing and could care less. As for having Mr. Grey switch - NO WAY! The man is a fricking basket case. His spelling and grammar and style seems to mimic a couple of guys who have contacted me in the past. Just a couple of NUTS whose only motive is to complicate the issues with mumbo jumbo. I have been dealing with his twin brother in private emails using a different name. Happy Birthday Clara is NOT a quote from Ha Ha Ha by author unknown but, from Max Gunther's book What Really Happen Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber