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+1. The FBI has more pressing matters. Check this out. A CA state senator, Leland Yee, has been so anti gun that he wanted mandatory registration of 3D printers that can produce gun parts. So Senator No Guns gets busted by the FBI trying to set up a multimillion dollar arms purchase to supply Muslim rebels in the Philippines. You couldnt make this stuff up. http://www.sacbee.com/2014/03/27/6274946/affidavit-details-sen-leland-yees.html What's ironic is that the only FBI scrutiny of this Dropzone forum was ended by Jo's complaining to FBI brass about Ckret. 377 WHAT WAS IRONIC was Ckret NOT disclosing all of the things about Weber and leaving out the important things - such as the JEFFERSON FILE and THE PICTURES attached to that file. The truth is - he never looked at them. Other things were NOT Ironic, but purposely done to exploite and disperse the FBI's files... He NEVER disclosed the where abouts of Weber from 1962 to 1964 - because he had NO ACCESS to those files. Even if he had them and could not publicize them - he was authorized to provide the widow outside of the forum all of that information. The FBI did NOT allow Weber's pic from Jefferson to be publicized - but, a smart Cookie named Mrshutter found the pics....and the detailed files. I have a printed format of what was available when CKRET posted here and IT had little to no information. You can defend CKRET all you want but what he was doing was not right and the FBI knew this - why do you think he got reassigned? Can you imagine the stir that picture would have created when MARLA was twisting her butt infront of the media! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, You have NO idea what I have been doing....not at all. I did contact family and now they are all deceased - I am the last one. I don't give a hoot about Christiansen, but Geestman is of interest, only because of things Duane said. You seem to ignore the fact that I discussed long before you ever came to the thread and on 101 about the Paradise Park and the Guys - but I didn't know the name of the park. I knew the location. Geestman's past and that of his wife is of concern to me. I even asked you to do something regarding a musuem when you last went to see Margaret in Twisp - you were right there near that musuem, but didn't stop. Perhaps it was all a ODD co-incident I had been looking for that Park & the woman who Rode Horses for 17 yrs when you told your story. I asked you to produce a picture of Margaret between the yrs 1990 and 1994. If it was the same woman she made a trip to FL during that time and I actually met her. Her hair was dark and it was short and it had been set - she was not white headed at that time. She was also not as heavy as the picture you produced. But, she was a woman from Duane's past who came to see him and her husband was not with her but she was picking him up...he introduced her as a friend from his past, but I do NOT remember the name. She was wearing a medium blue suit. It was more than the looks it was something Duane told me about her and how amazed I was. I only had a few moments because I had to get back to work. WHY I need to find Margaret Geetsman if that is her name. But I do not think that was the name given to me. When I saw the picture you posted or her at the ranch - that is what got my interest....except for the hair and her age and the weight - the woman who was sitting in Duane's office looked like that woman. I want to see a picture of her taken around 1990 to 1994. I would know her in a heart beat. I know that without proof I do not have a story - and WHY I have NOT done a BOOK or a MOVIE or anything like that. I KNOW what I saw and what I HELD in my hands and the strange sequence of events I experience for 17 yrs with Duane...all cuminating in a confession I did NOT grasp. At least I never made things up about people I didn't know and write a book about them. God has a reason for my plight - and I don't know what it is, but I was chosen to tell these things he tried to tell me and he left things, but I was so fricking clueless it was not funny. Maybe just maybe the answers are right infront of me. Find Pennington and find Harris and find what they did - I am not able to travel to WA to finish this. So the Fricking truth will probably die with me and I would like to spend a little of what is left of my life on ME! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have done my homework and I have chased all of the information on Geestman and it leads to a dead end. If you have been intouch with them in the last 2 yrs you are out and out throwing up a shield to protect yourself. BY your own admission you do NOt know where Margaret is. AS I hinted early - maybe they are in CA doing their own thing! Remember you claimed they would make ZERO on your book. There is NOTHING to keep them from doing a Movie based on a book writer who approached and misled them. The Fleecing - The Dark Truth about the search for D.B.Cooper. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

NO, U are the reason they are posting there because you disrupted every conversation they tried to do regarding the flight. Those who are discussing the flight path are doing a good job without the disrupting posting from other such as yourself and me. Since you cannot even view the site you have absolutely NO idea what is being done. The Work on the flight path they do NOT agree on, but Homid has produced some information not discussed before. They are studying old maps and developing what appears to be more of an easterly route for the plane and they have found an explanation for the time lines. These guys get a way too technical for me to follow, but I absord as much as I can. You couldn't keep your 2 cents worth out of the conversation long enough to allow them to have an intelligent conversation here. Everytime the conversation was going in a positive direction - you came in with CRAP completely off subject to promote your book or rattle on about private stuff. I couldn't post there if they allowed me to as it is too difficult to navigate and the flight conversations are WAY over my peon mentalilty. There is only one person there who was banned from this site. All of the others are there by choice and if they had a specific category for me - I would try to post, but I am more comfortable with the DZ and I will stay as long as I can - but, it won't be much longer. THEN you can have it ALL TO YOURSELF! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

That is an EXCUSE and U know it. When was the last time you contacted Geestman? I have the same phone number you have and the street address and the P.O. Box and Geestman DOES NOT LIVE THERE. I have unlimited long distance and I contacted a lot of people in Port Angles and GEESTMAN does NOT live there. If he does it is in a retirement home and/or nursing home. It was of the opinion he was back with his wife and living in CA...if you have other information then produce it. I was not going to be critical of you or put you down....What I wanted was for him to view ALL of the photos I have of Weber and others Weber knew - nothing more. I was going to include pictures of other individuals associated with Weber and these pictures are confidential and would require his signed pledge never to share them or make copies and to mail them back to me... I firmly believe the only reason you provide FALSE information is for the perservation of your book which you know if it is found you co-ersed or produce false information that you would be held liable. The public deserves to know the truth and not the story you have probagated for monetary reasons. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You know the physical address is not his and that the P.O. box is not his and the phone number is no longer his! Evidently you haven't tried to contact him. No organization there knows where he is and believe you me he didn't live in a shell. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I just went over to Shutters site read it as I usually do and this is what popped up: "Sorry, but the administrator has blocked registration from proxies. Other causes of this error include using an intranet (school connections), registering on a cell phone, or using a browser that does not support compression or does not accept encoding". I do NOT post there but I do read it. Now I am not even allowed to READ it. I guess that is because I contacted the FBI about WHAT Cook said about me! The only thing I was interested in was Homid and R99's conversation on the flight path. Never have used a proxie and or any other connection other than my usual AOL. Perhaps someone could explain to me what this means and if I violate some protocol they have there? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Consider that Geestman and his wife made sudden changes in their lives. All attempts to locate them went POOF! The post office box had NO forwarding address for Geestman. No property listed in his name. Phone numbers are non-exist. Even their son's number is non existent. It is like they VANISHED off the face of the earth. WHY! The rumor is they are working with a HollyWood producer in CA.

Only using parts of my post from below, but I REALLY need some help to locate the professions and the connections the men below had to WA & OR & ID. PLEASE HELP: I have been looking for 2 men for yrs. These men would have been the fathers of younger men Duane knew & kept in contact with for yrs. Jumping was mentioned regarding both men. Subject 1. Phil Harris Sr. This man WAS a jumper in the Seattle area & other areas of WA. SO MANY Phil Harris in WA area it was impossible. The son - Phil Harris Jr. is supposedly decease so I have been told...he did live in 1979 in the Seattle area. In 1978 Duane was talking Harris Jr. & asked him about his father. The father was still alive at that time, but was not jumping because he was too old. Guessing the older Harris to have been born between 1914 and 1924. I want to know the occupation of Sr. Harris & what his connections to Weber consisted of. Subject 2 The other man's name is very common in the WA area. Pennington. No 1st name for Sr. Pennington (as he may not have been a Sr.) HE would be about Duane's age probably born between 1914 & 1930. One of these sons looks like a miniature Sheridan Petersen. Image a youthful face on a man about 5'7" with staight glossy dark hair. Duane inquiring about the fathers of these two men is a piece of the puzzle that might bring the past of Weber into focus. NO idea how these fathers were connected to Weber (aka Johnnie (Dusty) Collins). The fact they were jumpers is what interests me. Harris was connected maybe connected to Foresty & definitely jumping. The remark made in 1979 by the son was "He's too old for that now". Regarding Pennington I heard the first question Duane directed at the man regarding jumping - the man motioned for Duane to come closer and walk away from where I was stand, but I still caught some of the conversation. Some conversation was about his father, no mention of jumping in relation to the father...I did get the impression WA was involved. The younger man THANKED Duane for what he did for his father regarding employment. I never understood how Duane had any say over who a Big N.W. Company hired. NONE of this meant anything to me until I found out who Dan Cooper was. Duane knew every airport in OR, WA, ID and UT & locations of places near them. In WA he knew every tower, the Vor, gravel pits, rivers, camp grounds, fishing camps, swinging bridge, bridge &stores in OR & WA. by name and looked for a woman in St Helens OR who had an antique shop near the river. Her name was the name in 2 of the books Duane had! Joan Garrity (not sure I spelled that right, but will look it up later this week). Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Good work Jo! Amazing... Blevins' quote referring to Gray's article gives himself away when he says: quote Blevins: and other things that pointed to KC, I've read Gray's article and seen the same photos and I can't find anywhere where Gray says "and other things that point to KC". Gray never uses those words in reference to Kenny or makes such an allegation at all! Those are Blevins' words! It's just one more critical example of where Blevins puts words and thoughts in other people's minds they never said at all! Those are Blevins' words and thoughts - not Gray's! It may very well be it was at this point, Blevins describes above, where Bernie realised what Blevins was up to, and the full implication of Blevins' deceits. Blevins even describes it! quote: " he turned white as a sheet right there on his front porch." Blevins' attribution to Gray above is just one more deceit. Blevins never gets anything right because he's always too busy and compromised with his own deceits! Shame on Blevins. Why Geestman ended the subject very abruptly was something he saw in those pictures, but only Geestman and his wife KNOW the answer to that. I was aware of Geestman's statement & the pictures he viewed. Decided to unload my thoughts on the subject as Blevins promotion of his book became extremely frustrating. Did the Geestmans KNOW who Cooper was? I believe after the incident in 1971 they may have had suspicions. Their encounter with Blevins was life altering & age was catching up with them - but, both Geestman & his wife stopped all conversation with Blevins? If what Blevins wrote about Geestman turning white & ending the conversation after viewing Greys book WAS true then, what in that BOOK made Geestman END his conversation & further participation in the subject? Was there something in those 4 pages of picture that screamed at him - STOP! Suddenly Margaret sells her ranch & he made sure No one could contact him. He is not listed as a resident or homeowner in the area Blevins claimed. He had a P.O. Box and even that is NO longer active. Poof! Seems to the operatis modem for anyone who claims to know who Cooper was! What was on those 4 pages other than multiple photo? Did it become evident to Geestman - that he could be implicated if he even recognized any one suspect? Was it the notariety the book would cause & the interuption it might create in their lives? Lots of reason Geestman ended the communications with Blevins! Maybe he suddenly felt the need to make a trip to the men's room. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Precisely the BULL I said you would promote! You are your own worst enemy! Because the nature to the subject it was YOUR responibility to determine the truth as U used it to attempt to accuse an innocent man of a crime he had NOTHING to do with. The dishwasher thing was a JOKE, Geestman was telling you this, but U did NOT get it. U were so gullible he just kept it up. COUNT 1 DID the Senior Executive of Foss Tugs presented U with PROOF what he was saying was true? I surely do NOT think he had the work records from 40 yrs ago & did not personly know Geestman. U didn't even do the math. Detailed employment records from 1971 were NOT available by anyone at Foss Tugs. Perhaps U need to recontact this executive and ask for PROOF. Did you ask for his business card and did he give his name? COUNT 2. Foss said Geestman was gone for no more than a week to ten days at a time and then received comparable time off at home. No one from Foss Tugs made that statement. COUNT 3. $5000 loan - so what? Geestman is an old man - he may not have remembered arranging the loan. Did U ever see the NOTE? What PROOF do U have there was ever such a loan? Does Kenny's detailed financial affairs show a NOTE to the woman? (surely U checked it out) After all you are accusing the man of a skyjacking. COUNT 4. Geestman questioned the loan? He thought Kenny made good money? Geestman tossed Kenny odd jobs? Geestman worked for NWA? Take the above summaries and add them up - YOU are the one doing the BULLSHITTING! Geestman approached Kenny for the loan, but he provided odd job for Kenny! The MORE U talk the deeper U dig yourself in. COUNT 5. In an interview Geestman state: 'You're asking me for MY opinion? Yes. He looks exactly like the picture the F.B.I. put out...' If one DID NOT KNOW the description - height and eye color and complexion one might make that statement above. It was U who later tried to explain away the hair, eyes & height! COUNT 6. U do realize that it was probably hunting season for game that wk. Did they take family photos - use those to excuse Geestman from being at home. U have NO proof! COUNT 7. Geestman sees Kenny before he died. What difference does that make. So what is the big deal on that - I am sure there was NOT someone with him 24/7. COUNT 8 Geestman made the remark regarding his wife and Kenny: " 'They were thick as theives. They had secrets...' He added that shortly before the time of the hijacking that he came home to Bonney Lake and discovered Kenny was living in the spare bedroom." ARE U not able to see thru this? Geestman and his wife had differences. What difference does it make that Kenny spent a few days in the spare room? Maybe the weather was bad and he spent the night - he wasn't in their bedroom! COUNT 9 You claimed Kenny bought the house from the same couple Geestman served as best man for in Puyallup. Name the couple and prove this - since it was in the county records you supposedly searched - give the name! COUNT 10 You didn't know they had lived together in Twisp! Then U did NOT interview all of the people together. Did you ever ATTEMPT to get them all together. IF they were ALL together today - WOULD they tell the same story you have told. NO NO NO NO! YOU were PLAYED! YOU claimed Geestman broke into his wife home BEFORE U interviewed her??? YOU gave the impression they were already separated and divorced! DUH! COUNT 11 Read your account of of what you said: It makes NO sense at ALL! "He was perfectly aware of the location of the ranch. It was a good thing I refused his offer. I found out that his last visit to Twisp (it's a few hundred miles from his place in Port Angeles) was to kick down the back door and retrieve some photographs and other items during the time he was getting divorced." So you are claiming Geestman and his wife got their divorce AFTER U started all of the interviews and question? Then U turn around and make this claim: "This, according to Mrs. Geestman, happened within a month of Kenny's death. When I interviewed her, his wife said that if he ever showed up again, she would come to the door with a shotgun." So you are saying at the time you interviewed Geestman he was living else where and they got DIVORCED after that and before you went to her home in TWISP! CLARIFY! Then you pit Dawn against her own Brother - SOUNDS LIKE TO ME YOU BROKE THIS FAMILY UP with your contrived story! You charmed to old ladies into lies they thought would harm no one. MAYBE the FBI has already talked to Geestman - and your story is contrived! You seem to be in contact with no one but the Sister. She just liked having someone come see her - she didn't realize she was getting everyone in a lot of trouble.

I tried to make a reply to this post, but it would not post - said something about debugging? Blevins knows how to find Geestman and obviously Geestman does NOT what to talk with him... I believe Blevins twisted the story. Geestman is an old man and not in the best of health - that was obvious from the documentary. I am sure he would love to have vindication. I would suggest 3 individuals: Bennett, Vicky & 377. The approach would be that they would like to help him clear the air. Geestman does not use a computer so he has NO idea about all of the garbage & slander Blevins is stating on an internet medium or that Blevins is doing a movie script The individuals involved in the story Blevins wrote have not a clue about this thread and have no defenses. Blevins was NOT up front with them - that is my take. One can already hear Blevins repeated answer to that. Geestman wanted copies of the book. I asked for a copy of Gray's book & I protested the mistruths in this thread. Geestman does NOT have this capability and all the so called "witness" are unaware he continues to probagate the story & unware he is doing a movie script. Geestman would love the opportunity to vindicate himself without going public & would probably sign a statement to clear himself of the harassement & clear his name....they like myself do NOT want to face the media and the media is NO longer Interested and Doesn't want to be involved. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Young Lady or young Man - you claimed a disability when you came to the thread, BUT that is NO excuse for the POTTY MOUTH! Seems like all you do is spout out off the wall remarks. This is a forum & we are basically all adults, but you are supposedly a child with a disability. Time for your parents to monitor your langage on the thread. Not sure you are a child! I have a 24 yr old disabled granddaughter & I would never approve of her being in this thread and making those kinds of remarks. She plays games all over the world & I am sure her parents would not approve of her being in this thread and talking like that. Not feeling comfortable with a child using the verbage you use. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have been looking for 2 men for yrs. These men would have been the fathers of younger men Duane knew & kept in contact with for yrs. Jumping was mentioned when Duane spoke to these young men - on 2 different sides of the states. Phil Harris Sr. The man was a jumper in the Seattle area & other areas of WA. As a young man or later in life. There are SO MANY Phil Harris in the WA area it was impossible. Phil Harris Jr is supposedly decease so I have been told. In 1978 Duane was talking Harris Jr. & asked him about his father. The father was still alive at that time, but was not jumping because he was too old. I will guess this man was born between 1914 and 1924. I want to know the occupation of Sr. Harris & what his connections to Weber consisted of. The other man's name is very common in the WA area. Pennington. I have no first name for Sr. Pennington but would think he was Duane's age so I can only guess his birth would be also between 1914 & 1930. Searched on my own for yrs off & on. Some of you have sources & capabilities I do not. One of these sons looks like a miniature Sheridan Petersen. Image a youthful face on a man about 5'7" with staight glossy dark hair. Duane inquiring about the fathers of these two men who were about my age was a PUZZLE - this is a piece of the puzzle that might bring the past of Duane Weber into focus. You guys know how to PM me or email me. If one of you contacts me that I feel I can trust NOT to misuse the information I will give you all I know. (not much more than what I have just written other than employment of the Jrs). Have NO idea how these fathers were connected to Duane Weber (aka Johnnie (Dusty) Collins). The fact they were jumpers is what interests me. I would bet Harris was connected to Wa Smokejumping or the forestry division and have a feeling that Pennington was also. The conversations the younger men did NOT want to discuss infront of me and one answered with "He too old for that now" The other took the conversation out of range, but I heard the first the question Duane directed at they man & then they walked away, but I still caught a few words. This meant nothing to me until I found out who DAN COOPER was. Vickie & Bennett seem to have good resources for the WA area. Do NOT put your searchs into the thread - run them by me to see if there is even a remote chance. No need in causing hard feelings with these sons - but, I do NEED to know the histories of the 2 fathers. Needle in the haystack with Phil Harris Sr and the name Pennington - I have NO idea what his fathers name was. I have tried to research every corner of Duane L. Weber's life. No one Knows WA & OR the way Duane did without there being a solid long term connections to the areas. Duane knew every airport and the resturants near them. He knew every tower, the Vor, gravel pits, rivers, camp grounds, fishing camps, swinging bridge, bridge and stores in OR and WA. by name and looked for the woman in St Helens OR who had an antique shop near the river. Her name was the name in 2 of the books Duane had! Joan Garrity (not sure I spelled that right, but will look it up later this week). Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

me too. Jo Dittos that - felt with his weight and multiple heath problems he was either dead or in a nursing home...Glad to know he is still around! He went Poof like Snowman and Farflung. One always wonders what happened to those we never hear from. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Good Morning to all: Most of you are able to handle or ignore my postings. But, even that did NOT stop Blevins from continually using the thread to promote his book. That other Thread: I read the thread, but do NOT post and have NO desire to do so. They are NOT getting enough feed back that is NOT slanted from other pilots and others who have actually piloted the 727 or jumped from one. NOTE: Inappropriate postings (repetitive or inflammatory) in any category and with out an invitation would be grounds for jail time and perhaps terminal execution in the thread. I read, but have NO desire to post there. Reading the thread I was learned about the actions & words of another man who is NOT allowed to post here. This provided this certain individual a place to show himself. This individual was by his claims NOT able to even READ the DZ. This person is now probagating false & inflamatory information in one of the categories regarding specific individuals & discussed with the FBI in their office. Inappropriate conduct on the part of the FBI office in Seattle! Discussing and Relating information regarding another individual who contacted the FBI about Cooper with another person with his own agenda is very inappropriate. The FBI is not suppose to discuss behind closed doors another subject & share information about others involved in the case. (Very Unprofessional). An attorney (with an agenda of his own) the FBI discussed Other? Is the FBI so miss informed that they do NOT understand his agenda - confuse and disfuse THIS attorney has been writing his own book for over 15 yrs & no book yet! He needs for anyone who could expose Cooper to be deceased... Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The remark Galen said about Jo Weber and the FBI - do YOU really believe that? Of course not and if you could see ALL of the many inches of emails I exchanged with Cook, then he would be labeled just as he claims the FBI labeled me....I intend to see they get the proof of this...COPIES of all of the emails Cook exchanged with me & they need to NOTE the dates. Was still playing with some theories & Galen did also. When the FBI communicates with Galen Cook, they are communicating with the DEVIL himself as I have. Emails I shared with COOK way before he ever went public in anyway. Cook uses PUPPETS and that is how the expression puppet was used by JO WEBER. Cook even used me as his puppet until I STOPPED it. The snake convinced me he was trying to help me - but, what he was doing was using me. A lot of things have been said about JO, but when I can prove someone is lieing to benefit himself with the authorities - they HAVEN'T been around a angry woman armed with a rolling pin. Two major tests today & I am tired, but I did address Cook's tactics in an email which I am sure the FBI will never read! I don't need to be a twisty butt like Ms Cooper or a sneaky snake like Cook. With all the documentation of deception & cruel remarks made by persons such as Cook and Jerry T, I don't need to play games or be coy. I no LONGER have time on my side....I need to take my last stand and do it right. I will remind you guys of a statement in the form of question I fired out a few pages ago...and some of you need to put some thought into the question. It was about the plane and the lowering of the aft way and the after effects of up drafts and down drafts after the plane stairway was down. The FBI has NOT revealed & younger agents have NO idea what is in the witness testimonies (not all of those conversations where released to the public). Many never made part of the media. HOW and WHY do you guys think there was reports of food and other item strewn about the cabin? I suggested Cooper had a temper tantrum to get a conversation going - BUT, no one seemed to think it important enough to think about! I made a remark to Mr. H many many yrs ago about something Duane said - but until I read about the food and other items strewn about the plane when it landed in Reno (in this thread) - I did NOT know how important this was - but, I was the only one who heard all of the ramblings of a man dying a slowdeath so it will be again my word. I tried to tell others about the rambling, but no one seemed to think they meant CRAP. I didn't understand & did NOT remember all of the ramblings. Anything I would say I will be accused of making it up or be called a LIAR as JT has echoed many times. NO one cared about finding the man who live in a homemade trailer not far from the Corner Tavern....I won't know till someone comes forward & I have waited to late for the clarity of some of the things to ever be proven as so many have passed away over the yrs. WA wants the fantasy to promote the state. The Authority do NOT want the truths to ever be told because it might make them look bad & of course there is the alternative Cooper just might have been part of some actions NO one was supposed to ever talk about. I felt the remark the FBI agents supposedly made needed to be known to those agent. If that is the attitude of the FBI - to believe the ridiculous & to sanction the things Cook has done over the yrs - they needed to see all of the emails I exchanged with Cook and see how much of his "stuff" he highjacked from Jo. I am informing the of Cook's harassment of Tina through B Smith & I can support the accusations I have against Cook & his tactics. Bruce did NOT find Tina on his own. Cook had already paid Tina a visit & I have the EMAIL to prove it. He pretended to be someone in need of her services & went to her office. He never made it clear if he told her who he really was & his purpose for being there. Jo is upfront & NOT behind your back. Yea, I have had to keep somethings on the QT to protect others & myself - but never contacted a witnesses on false pretences or helped smear her picture all over the internet. What you see & what you get with JO WEBER is a real person who stood up for what she believes. YES, a definite yes, I play with ideas and in my DUMB OLE WOMAN ways try to find the truths & NEVER have I borrowed anyones research or idea or suspect. Over the yrs I got some wires crossed or someone was harassing me & I would blurt out things I should not have & should have been more careful, but the thread is like conversations and others interject things and we explore them. I played with all of the theories like everyone else in the thread ---and many times you guys have taken something said that got lost in the context & I live with those. I am not good at outlining things - I was stating on the thread something and I made error, but I always tried to get it straight. Over and over the trip I made to Wa in 1979 with Duane and the places he stopped. I know the order in which these things happened - but in the long conversations interupted by other posting some things are taken out of context. Regardless of how many time I tried to correct you guys on this - it was my error. A poster CLAIMED I said something differently than how it was meant. When I tried to argue with you guys - he TOLD me to go along with him. I did NOT realize the consequence this would bring & after that I was adamant about the subject and refused to BACK down. A lot of time and energy was lost on my part because of I trust other. NO one can take one post & let it stand on its own - one has to take into this other conversations over a period of time. As it stood I got raked over the coals. What I had said had been misunderstood - I stood my ground...but NO one went way back to see how I stated it before. Theories - I played with them, but my heart was always in the right place. I had come to even doubt myself on things - but, it has been 19 yrs I have dealt with things like this & most of that in an open thread such as the DZ. Jo teases a little, but she is a forthright person and a very honest person. Always have been and will always be that way. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Cook Referenced the FBI stating this: "They were the ones sitting around and reading the report and then made a comment that went like this, "He makes Jo Weber look like a sane, normal person." The joint erupted with laughter. Leave it to those fun-loving agents. Snoop". I have a lot of medical test tomorrow, but I will be talking to the FBI in-person. I have ALL of those emails Cook exchanged with me - LET the FBI see those and see who the MENTAL case is. I don't care if it takes my entire monthy check to have copies made and delivered to the door by courier to the FBI's OFFICE. IF that is what they are saying in their office in SEATTLE - it will have a STOP put to it. I want their acknowledgement in writing they have READ every last ONE of them and then Galen Cook can put his lawyers license in the GARBAGE can. I will probably be contacting the "others" also. If those agents actually made that statement - it is extremely inappropriate and if that is their attitude then I AM GOING PUBLIC! I am tired of fighting this battle behind a keyboard and I want to see PROOF and I do mean PROOF Weber could not be Cooper nor that he was not involved. IF Cook is privey to what goes on in the FBI office and he can make a public statement like that - that is NOT FBI policy! Nor is it Government Policy. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Ok Guys - this is all putting me to ZZZZzzzzz! I stated a fact with this statement: "Galen stated many times - he did NOT understand how and why I had access he could not get. He was ticked as HELL when I refused to give him Tina's contact information...I try never to violate confidential information.....but sometimes the DEVIL gets into me. I did NOT tell him how to find Tena - I just told him where to START - at point A - her divorces files. Then he got one up on me and because of his attorney status got to talk to the FBI & have access to things I did not....just how much I am unaware of....that is when our email relationship fell apart." Then I went on to make other remarks, but one one of those remarks was meant to get anyone attention so I will REPEAT it! One thing I said is VERY important: "Duane's brother & Tosaw belonged to the same boat club & went to the same bible study classes....The brother & Duane had not spoke to each since Duane's release from Folsom/SanQuentin when Duane was living with his mother so it would be after 1958 and before 1960. Not one of you gave that any thought - not even Galen!" Now the next statement is very important, but again NOT one soul even read it: "The flight made a slight change because of the wind just about the time the aft stairs was deploying ...They had to! All of you pilots and know it alls THINK about this statement! The tail is going down and you have wind and rain! This is when the cabin got trashed....Cooper didn't do it!" Not one person seemed to think it was ODD I made that remark. As I have said I am now stating things I have sat on. Remember all of the postings WAY BACK WHEN? When the plane landed in Reno - there was supposedly food and other item all around the cabin. I suggested Cooper had a temper tantrum! But, there again were NO replies to amount to a helluv beans. Those who actually have contacts with the FBI need to review your thinking on this if it is indeed a given FACT. Evidently we do not have a pilot in the thread who has ever piloted a 727 with the aft stairs being lowered and in turbulence. Seems like 377 mentioned a plane with the door removed and the sound the jumpers made when they exited....but what happens with the door is lower in a storm 10K up. Even more of a question - did Cooper ask the pilot to make a directional change? Remember NOT all of the communications where shared with the public. What happens when the plane is in a storm and the aftstairs is lowered - consider the storm winds and the direction of them. I do NOT know anything about what really does happen under these circumstances. I have NEVER revealed all of the ramblings Duane made during his last days on this earth. Why? Because some things did NOT make any sense to me and even though I have given a detail almost word for word what he said after he told the DR. there would be NO MORE of the kidney machine. The following day he was heavily doped and I didn't pay much attention to those ramblings. The woman who worked for Duane was there when he was rambling about not being about find the bucket and referencing a sum of money. a sum of money and couldn't find the bucket. I told her he had been rambling like that before she got there but none of it made sense. We did NOT have a clue what he was talking about. He made other ramblings, but they just did not seem significant to anything other than the morphine they started after he refuse anymore treatment...and had sufficiently informed the Dr. that he was of sound mind and knew what he was doing...then he asked the Dr. if he would want to live in under his body. I never discussed the other ramblings because they made NO SENSE to me. Most of them I do NOT remember because they were so outlandish. Swoosh! Cold! Wet! Ascarded (I know there is no such word, but that was a word he used and not just in reference to his impending death). What was the verbage between Tina and Cooper????? Not one soul has asked her and the FBI never provided a detailed statement regarding what Tina and Cooper talked about. Per Mitchell they were talking and per Tosaw they were talking. ANYONE privey to the FBI files regarding the private conversation between Tina & Cooper? NOT even GALEN nor Gray are privey to this & the FBI is NOT saying one damned word. The FBI does have detailed - never disclosed statements she made after the event. Things she can never talk about! If someone has access to them or can even communicate with the FBI - ask them about verbage used by Cooper. Ascard was one of those words and a conversation about death. Cooper felt he has NOTHING to live for - and there was a discussion about GOD. Tina could NOT let him die - without trying to save his soul. God is the only way she thought she might reach him. Did he diss her? Did he actually consider the things they may have discussed? Did she have a book with little religious quotes among the simple recipes? I have that book! Cooper took it with him or he sought one out in stores - but there were ONLY 3000 copies of it made. Would have been a VERY tedious and expensive chore to have found that book. That book and it's little sayings was as close as Weber came to a bible during our marriage. The picture of the little girl does LOOK like Tina - but, I have not sent her that picture or sent a copy to her sister....Why don't one of you do that. I just can't do it. I have posted a copy of the picture over one of the pages. I have asked about the BOOK in this thread, but not one nibble. Probably if I even tried to tell the FBI I got a rookie or mouthpiece who didn't have a clue about what really happened on that plane....I usually talked to a RECORDER and not a human being...The things I told them were never acknowledged nor did they ever acknowledge the emails I sent. NOW HOW MANY OF YOU ACTUALLY READ THAT LONG POST? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Anything anyone says to Blevins is like trying to douse a RAGING forest fire with a bucket of water! He only thing that can stop him is a tell all book or movie endorsed by the crew & the FBI. Was it not Blevins who claimed to have worked for a mental facility? Maybe he was a resident & not a worker. This coming from the Crazy, Delusional Off Her Rocker OLD lady! Maybe not - what do you think? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

*** Not to mention that it is entirely possible that Tina knew or at least crossed paths with KC since she mostly flew to Japan for the last 5 years or her NWA career -- until she retired in 1981 and joined the convent on Valentine's Day becoming Sister Ann Marie. (approx 1976 - 81) The article mentioned the yr 1981, but I saw nothing about 1979. Why was there rumor she was in Gresham in 1979 working in a home for the elderly. Even Mr. H & and media said she was working in Gresham at the time of the money find? This leaves a mystery. As you know she is in Eugene now and NO longer a nun. Perhaps she was on assignment to Gresham at a home for the elderly, it was my understanding it was after 1979 that she went to the convent. As for me - I only knew what I was told by Mr. H and everyone knows I strongly disagreed with the stories told by Bruce Smith - the smut writer. Thank you for the article - I will treasure it because after she spoke to me in 2004 I refused to intrude into her life other than to leave a message 3 times - one to warn her about Bruce & the other to deliver a message from the co-pilot. Another was to say how sorry I was about Galen Cook finding her & that I felt responsible. The only time I ever spoke to her was when she contacted me because of a letter I SENT her. I sent NO pictures nor made any demands. I sent a donation with that letter for her to use for whatever charity she wished. I still have a copy of the letter I sent her....it was short. Tina was kind enough to call me. What we discussed was and will always be between she and I. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

HA HA HA - Ask Vickie what I told her in a PM! HAHAHA. I knew the address was NOT correct. Remember I kept asking if u had an answer & u offered up flimsy reasons! Sort of guess you didn't really send anything. Mitchell would go to the FBI - not U! You listen to no one other than that voice in your head. The witnesses or anyone who reads this thread - would NOT give your story the time of day, much less a response! Why can U not see the handwriting on the wall? Blevins it is OVER! Spending money and time to write a screen play! DUHH! How gullible do you think the world is? NO on second thought just how gullible are U? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins just did NOT get it. I didn't want a response just to curtail the discussion about a subject that is not part of the Cooper Story. To stay on subject. That subject has Zero to do with Cooper! The other "place" except for the quiet discussions going on about the flight path seem to be standing still. Galen is doing his job making sure some facts get buried & to probagate the confusion....and puts in a little twist that he KNOWS I will get. In 2003 Galen had NOT spoke to the co-pilot...and the Co-pilot HAS NOT gone on record saying the plane was WESTof I-5. The co-pilot NEVER said that....if he did it was referencing the very beginning of the flight. Galen has never been as obnoxious as other parties I have spoke to, but he is a SNEAKY SNAKE in the GRASS. He knows I have told him this for yrs - even when we were communicating by email & he knows I have the emails to prove it. I say this almost affectionately as I attribute this to the little boy sydrome. Galen stated many times - he did NOT understand how and why I had access he could not get. He was ticked as HELL when I refused to give him Tina's contact information...I try never to violate confidential information.....but sometimes the DEVIL gets into me. I did NOT tell him how to find Tena - I just told him where to START - at point A - her divorces files. Then he got one up on me and because of his attorney status got to talk to the FBI & have access to things I did not....just how much I am unaware of....that is when our email relationship fell apart. I still THINK he does or did UNION work & inherited something he didn't know how to deal with. He basically grew up on Cooper! Cook was a kid when he helped Tosaw on his boat.....did any of you guys know that? Galen inherited certain things when Tosaw died. Duane's brother & Tosaw belonged to the same boat club & went to the same bible study classes....The brother & Duane had not spoke to each since Duane's release from Folsom/SanQuentin when Duane was living with his mother so it would be after 1958 and before 1960. Cook earned his brownie badges & he knows why I call him Sneaky Snake but he was in wonderment HOW Jo had access to somethings before he did. That one got him! BUT, being the sneaky snake and game player he is - maybe he was my RobbieClampett how sent me Tina's address....I only had ONE maybe and one guess on who my RobbieClampett was. YET, remember Bruce baggering me about this and treating me like I was a common criminal. Just the memory of that give me a very bad taste in my mouth. The flight made a slight change because of the wind just about the time the aft stairs was deploying ...They had to! All of you pilots and know it alls THINK about this statement! The tail is going down and you have wind and rain! This is when the cabin got trashed....Cooper didn't do it! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Dear Mr. Blevins: This thread is NO place for you to talk about weapons of violence! Take your gun conversations elsewhere, Please. You're scarey - there was no conversation in this thread to prompt you to make such a statement. In the past you have done this same thing, but this time I felt I needed to respond to your impromptu posting. Random uncalled for postings about guns does NOT seem normal....not to me. Random postings about GUNS after confrontal postings is alarming & I have sensed a pattern....I no longer feel comfortable ignoring. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins stated: "Over the summer of 2010 I made several more trips to Twisp to interview Katy. I tried several different lines of questioning to pin her down on whether Kenny was the hijacker, but I had no success. However, she consistently pointed to her ex-husband Mike as a person who was definitely involved. She was caught between a rock and a hard place regarding Kenny. I had presented considerable circumstantial evidence against Christiansen, but Katy kept trying to point me toward other people she knew as being the actual hijacker. None of them panned out. I kept coming back to Kenny as the most likely suspect." How did he work in all of those trips with his car and posting to this thread! "Over the summer of 2010 I made several more trips to Twisp to interview Katy. I tried several different lines of questioning to pin her down on whether Kenny was the hijacker, but I had no success" Several Trips to Twisp - well, we know one time - she was already GONE! Wonder if Blevins will EVER tell us who the other individuals were that she named? Of Course, not! Blevin has perpetuated a false hood and a book for profit - and I HOPE someone NAILS him for it. They like myself are up in age - you can bet the house & your IRA - they would if he had anything to sue for.... Right now they just want to be left alone to live their lives out! Margie and Geestman - went POOF! ONE has to ask WHY? Unbelievable Blevins is actually going to do a script - hope that Tina (his screen writer) reads this thread! Perhaps then she will just write her OWN screen play about the biggest liar in the Cooper saga. But, like the man who contacted me - they want ACTION and there is just NO action in the story about Cooper - none! I won't be around to fight my battle, but hope someone in this thread or who reads the postings will finally come forward with some information conclusive about Duane Weber.... ANYone know why or how Magie just went POOF with NO ONE having any clue where she went? Maybe she didn't go POOF! Maybe a VIP has been in contact with her about the REAL story. Maybe Blevins should be all shook up. Maybe Blevins is going to be made a fool out of and Maybe Blevins is going to get a cease & decease order. Maybe he is going to be exposed on a tell all TV program in the near future! Huhhh! Blevins would even attempt to use that to his benefit. P.S. 377, you can rib me all you want about a lot of things - but, I am just a stupid OLE Lady who has tried to make sense out of the things Duane told me & tried to figure out how the hell he evaded the authorities all of those yrs. Well, that is pretty damn easy if Cooper was part of group who acted with government sanctions or OTHER who could expose things the government never wanted anyone to know. Oh, well - The Conspiracy Theory is better than the stories Blevins told! You are an attorney and others on this thread know how to fine Margie Geestman or whatever name she is using. ONE does NOT go poof unless certain individuals or organizations DO NOT want her FOUND! She owned property and she live in the area many yrs - seems like Blevins does NOt know how to use those property records to his benefit. What was the date of the TRANSACTION and who did Blevins say bought the property? All I need is the date of the transaction or the month of the transaction....Twisp is not THAT large. The population on the Twisp site was very small. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber