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To ALL We have done all of the above. There was a ticket agent and a gate agent. All are names within the thread and then there is the passenger list. All key individuals have been named (except the passenger list). All of those willing to talk I have interviewed and others have interviewed. Some I interviewed BEFORE they died. Some individual have spoke with me ..only because I was so persistent and needed answers on a personal basis. All of that has been done by the members of this thread, the media and by others such as myself. Some of these people want only to be LEFT alone - and they have good reason. Lives have been altered including mine by Duane's confession. No one can give these people back their lives as the case is now approaching 38 yrs - I have been told by key individuals - IT is TIME to Bring this to an END (not because of me, but because of all the ensueing confronting by the media and others within the past few yrs.) They ALL want it to end. Prior to the dominance of the internet these people were able to live relative private lives. Since the presentation of multiple suspects, upcoming books, the chute find, supposed dna (which the FBI now admits was contaminated), the internet and loss of their privacy.....you will find an ending coming very soon. More people with stories to tell have crawled out of the past and one which Bruce spoke of told me 2 stories (stories - Duane told me, but I have not talked about these things publically). The information was recorded in my files from 1996 - 2000 and were told to Himmelsbach - therefore NEW information has been obtained. Where any of this will go I have not a clue! But there is a connection or this man knew the same people Duane knew. Bruce is more astute at getting the details about these incidents as I am too emotionally involved. As with everyone when we get older our memories are clouded over time - and I found inconsistencies (but, as of the last 2 yrs I have a hard time getting a grasp on some conversations). His story is worth hearing and like the man, but of course we disagree on only one part of his story....but, it was the parts of his story --- that are consistent with stories Duane told me. Few people would know these specific stories or these connections...No this man is not Cooper, but I think his subject and Duane Weber did know each other. P.S. There is more than one name on that passenger list that has NEVER been made public to my knowledge. This caught my attention - coincidence or deliberate action on the FBI's part? Or was one individual TOO high up the food chain? The Book and the Picture will be made PUBLIC! Also another picture of an item never before exposed, but not in this thread. I believe Cooper will end within a short few months. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

QuoteYes the great mystery map, what could it possibly be?Quote I know little about maps, but it certainly sounds like you do know what you are talking about and this might be your expertise. The longest post you ever made here - therefore the subject conversation must have got your dander up enough - to sit down and do something about it. This is what has been needed - for those who know what they are talking about to enter these discussions - they fortunately go way over my head. After your study - what is you analysis of the actual route? As for the DZ he could have jumped at several points or as someone else proposed not at all...but we know that is not possible. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The maps are technical and I don't get involved. I only made a comment about prior statements made by me since get go and to others plus, recent confirmations of what I have said in the past. All of this dealt with the Orchards area and the markers visible in that area. Every time I make a post regarding specific subjects and the process going on - you get out of sorts. Others who visit this forum, but do not post - notice this and have made comments about it. What you got out of sorts about was not my comments on the location Sluggo mentioned, but something else in the same post relating information recently acquired that I had prior knowledge of. Later one day I will tell that funny story. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Hi Sluggo. The Bomb I dropped in WA revealed the very same thing. I recieved communications with 3 individuals. One man knew exactly what I was looking for with the maps I sent out - he described it to me exactly the way I remembered it and tried to tell over the yrs. There was a slight problem with my map, but after what he said - it was easy to see where Duane flipped me (remember we made lots of turns and he didn't need a map). Everything I described - is there including that FIELD where there was an airstrip I couldn't see, (not too far from Scholls airport), but was told about by Duane. Everything I was shown was again explained to me by this contact. Another call also revealed the same thing. 1966 seems to be a pivitol yr for the background of Cooper. P.S. I have a story to tell about a man who showed some young squirts how to do it (jump). I don't have time right now and would rather wait until I get the facts straight. Plus I can only spend a few minutes sitting at one time. It is funny as hell - but I want to tell it right....but, what was strange about this story is that Duane had told me the same story in 1979. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Bursworth (no first name) and not sure of spelling. Well, that name was Donald Burnsworth - a pilot. A contact claimed the FBI came into his office asking about this individual the day after the Highjacking. I didn't remind the person that the day after was Thanksgiving day.. No the name is not the 2 words I was waiting for. I do not know who Donald Burnsworth was other than what I was told yesterday. Why did this man's contact interest me? Just 2 words he used in his contact with another individual. As much as I have said over the yrs there ARE things I have NOT told (or if I did I don't remember telling them). A story he told me MATCHED a story Duane told me - but, I do not remember telling the FBI or mentioning this to the FBI other than to Himmelsbach - ( I can hear you guys now chanting in unison - why didn't you tell the FBI and how convenient for you to remember it now). Fortunately I had a word processor back in 1996 til 2000...I kept notes about people I talked to and my memories of the trip and experiences with Duane. I made hard copies and I have the floppy which was converted into a format that could be read in a computer (not sure how useful that is now). I also have a tape recording I made over a period of several days during those first 4 yrs before going public. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I'd exercise my 5th Amendment right to remain silent. Without some dumb admission they'd have a tough time getting a search warrant or having cause for arrest. Silence, literally in this case, is golden. 377 Question: if someone asked you yet another hypothetical irrelevant question on a forum, would you feel obliged to answer it? Of course, if the question was phrased thus: if you found money and an old parachute in an old car you bought ... now, that would be much more interesting. Be a little difficult to hide a parachute in a car for 25 yrs. The cash and gold is the wash...and 377's answer is the same one I got for yrs. In 1996 no one was looking for old $20 bills...but, what was left was only soveniers and the rest was wash (safe). Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You really need to do something about that scary avatar - looks Schizophrenic! I hear you were turned down for a documentary? News to me! - I have not talked to anyone about a documentary. National Geo - the one where they simulated the jump contacted me when they were collecting their data, but I refused to participate other than to provide them with information. I did NOT want to be photographed, filmed or exploited...and the compromised DNA was an issue with me at that time...therefore it was a pass. Is this what you were referring to? My "conditions" were NOT acceptable! Did you see the photo of Tina they used in Blevins book? This is one I had not seen. Better compare that photo to my " little girl" photo that was in the gold book. Maybe the FBI should have analyzed " a fragment" of that gold book instead of asking me to "mail" them the book. Maybe the rightful owner has already claimed to it...maybe my drop in WA paid off. Question - If you found money and gold in an old car you bought and did not report it and the FBI knocks on your door 2 yrs later - what would you do? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Maps, Transcripts, flight Path, Place Card, Bones, Old Chute and other things. Try these names on for size: Don't go by the spelling, but go by sounds like and try to figure this out! Any of these names mean anything to any of the old timers and / or military - do you know if they are living? What do you know about their background? 1.Bursworth (no first name) and not sure of spelling. 2. Ron Clark 3. Harry Richards - Oklahoma 4. Bob (Robt) Cupil or Cupal - again not sure of spelling. 5. Kenneth Meeks. 6. Bill Munson (could be Munsen) 7. Walt Pointenvent (again not sure of spelling ...but sounds like). 8. Flights from Salt Lake to Alaska??? 9. Ignore the ages of these guys in 1971 --- but, what were they doing during 1958 - 1971? Who are they - what is their connection to the Northwest? What is their background? Are they dead or alive. Now if there is anyone out there serious about investigating Cooper - TALK. I will only listen, Remember the picture Duane Weber had me take of a man in Salt Lake City - the picture of a man he requested I take and the goofy outfit he was wearing. Duane mentioned something specific during the Salt Lake trip in 1979. I told Himmelsbach about this in 1976 and (when I was talking to Himmelsbach I assumed he told the FBI everything I said). Talk about a tree falling in the wilderness - if there is no living being to hear it - did it actually make a sound? No offense to Himmelsbach, because I love him dearly for putting up with me for all of these yrs - no way he could absorb everything this neurotic crazy old woman rattled off...as I reinterated my memories to him. I filed these key words in my tapes and my memories - things no one wanted to hear. Perhaps this contact is another curve in the search - but this person could NOT know the key words I have been looking for. I am NOT able to sit at the computer and research these things - you guys hold a wealth of abilities and if anyone of you really want to find out who Cooper was - help us out with this. None of these guys are Cooper, but they may be connected to the background of Cooper...unknowingly or indirectly. Remember the FBI never revealed their suspect list or the individuals they did not or could not - investigate. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

BuDop was presented only because of the Soldier of Fortune Magazine he place in a safe deposit box 3 months before he died - exploring Bu Dop and the other articles in that magazine - there was a significant reason why he put that in the safety deposit box - a box I was unaware of. Duane was involved in some activity in MX, TX going up to WA and OR...and if the FBI ever traced the past of Ed Huran they would be able to track Duane during that time - maybe they already did. These guys were not doing something on the up and up - what I gathered from the conversation I had on that evening in 1978 with Ed. Exactly what this activity was - I don't know, but Duane had Mafia and/or CIA connections - because some of the people he introduced me personally to, have known pasts related to the above. The FBI knows this. There is a difference between Covert CIA and the renegade employees of operatives who operated below the CIA level, but did "dirty" work...that could never be connected to the CIA. Perhaps it was a front for other illegal activities? It is not important. It is his association with certain "fellows" where he learned enough to do what he did (be it a military action, a covert action or a civilian action). Identifying Ed Huran's past will clear ALL of this up. 1958 to 1960. Duane Weber was in El Paso County in Colorado. I had thought the records meant El Paso Tx, but Colorado throws an entirely different kink into his past...a traceable one. Living in Nebraska as John Collins is also traceable - difficult only because of the yrs that have gone by. This is why when we went to Omaha (at least this is where I think we went) I was instructed to STAY in the car. Whatever he had to do in that bank was under the name of John Collins and NOT Duane Weber otherwise I would have been asked to go in with him. Same with The Fountane Blue in Miami - John Collins. Same with the guys in ALabama - calling him John...one from clear across the Mall. Both of these guys presented a mysterious past. One talking about a camp and the paintings of the camp. The other telling me Duane knew people in HIGH places and to drop my investigation. Whatever Duane did in this respect was under the name John C. Collins. Johnny (for the Johnny jar) had a past - and why? The FBI can't explain why they were looking for John Collins - and they never will. John Collins sold insurance in Nebraska and Ks. John Collins. The "Government" was looking for DUANE WEBER/JOHN COLLINS immediately after he got out of Jefferson...and there are family statements to this matter. The FBI ever explained this...in 1968 they went to his Brother-in-law's in CO. looking for him. The FBI never explained this one either...did they just dismiss the charges or forget about them???? WHY were they looking for John Collins in 1968 after he had been released from Jefferson? Duane and his family flee to New Orleans and then to AL. and then to GA and S.C. WHY WERE THE FED's CHASING HIM DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME? They never arrested him - but the wife knew some things were going on in GA and S.C. and the running from the Law stopped in GA. in 1971..WHY? No one -NOT even the FBI, has ever answered this question. WHY the law was looking for him after his release from Jefferson in 1968...his sudden exit from Co. in 1968 - taking with them 4 children to N.O. fleeing the authorities. Why in 1971 did the FED's leave him be? What charges was he being pursued on? Did they just drop the charges - how did they settle this? What would have been the reason if they didn't have a cause. The FBI has NEVER answered this question. None of you ever proposed an solution for the above - and the FBI sure kept quiet about it. Have anyone of you ever thought about WHY the above circumstances where NEVER explained? If he was wanted for another CRIME - what happened? Why didn't the FBI pursue this - WHY were they searching for him? Did they just want to question him about something? WHAT? WHY did they stop in 1971 - what did DUANE do. FED's don't run around chasing someone without a reason...now I hope some of you understand WHY I keep ex-pounding that things DO NOT ADD UP! This has to incorporated into the letter briefly - but, not in a manner it can be ignored. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Information will be submitted to the FBI formally along with requests they investigate a part of Duane's life they only gave a cursory look at (or did they just turn their heads). The paper work is long and tedious - I have asked individuals who have followed my search for yrs to help me condense what we need to have the FBI look at and WHY. A phone call to the FBI revealed the new agents DON't even know who Cooper was and they are NOT investigating these things. So I was requested to make the information available to the FBI in BLACK AND WHITE. We will do this but, at the same time make this information available to the public - (one of which will be this thread if it is still open when we get this done). We should have this information ready within the next 3 wks. It is some of the same information I have provided in the past - but each time I dealt with a new agent and they didn't put it together. In the past I have mentioned all of this to the FBI, but there was so much for them to absorb they didn't see it - and I just let it go. Upon my relating information to an individual who called me about Cooper - I was reviewing some of the dates from actual files. ONE thing led to another AND then another and then another. This remarkable person's mind suddenly started to click, click and he put the pieces together with date that I could not. I had tried to get the FBI to listen...but my mind does NOT work like others - who relate information in an organized pattern with a specific goal in mind. I contacted the FBI (BY PHONE) and they said it would take a warrant to get the information I was requesting. I asked how do you get a warrant on a dead man's property who didn't exist - this regards a safety deposit box and the information behind that box and if it was left open. Duane had taken care of everything, but my stupidity - I didn't listen and I didn't look. There will be a trail from 1980 when a box was opened in a distance city and when that box was visited in 1990...he may have again paid it forward. Anyone remember my talking about Duane's friend who went with him on a trip in early 1990(where he left the friend for 2 days while Duane made a trip he didn't want me to know about). Upon returning from this trip is when Duane opened another box, but this time under the name of Duane L. Weber - the one I was only aware of after his death. The magazine...was there. After this trip is when Duane was caught counting out a considerable amount of money...and that information was also suppied to the FBI. He had removed everything from the new box opened in 1990 except the magazine .... just about 3 months prior to his death....and before going to the hospital he withdraws all of the money in his checking acct. and tells me to put it in the joint acct...he also closed out his savings account. Now I know why he wanted to go for a ride (while in the hospital)- why he was so concerned about the van - it was the "other" things he wanted me to have - but I screwed up because I didn't find what he had in the van...I wasn't listening. So it has taken 14 yrs to unravel all of this - these same items where right in front of the FBI all of these yrs and they didn't see it and I told them about the safe deposite boxes and they did not listen to me. Talking about the book - the agent told me to "mail it". I replied "Over My Dead Body" and that the FBI would see the actual book only if they could produce evidence it did belong to someone on that plane, otherwise this is private property until they can show proof it is evidence. I will make a copy of the cover available to them - if they need it. Duane took me to a "city" in 1980 or late 1979 - it had wide streets - double lanes and parking on the sides. It was a bright town - the buildings where light in color and the buildings on this street were 2 - 4 stories high. Duane left me in the car because he said he had to see a man he knew there about business (this was a several hour drive from our home and in a state he was not licensed to sell insurance - IT WAS ALSO A CITY WHERE HE WAS KNOWN only AS JOHN COLLINS. Of course I can already hear JT claiming I am creating fantasy - except I actually told the fbi and others about this for yrs. I never expounded on it, because I didn't know Duane was known in this area only as John Collins. I didn't put the dates together for them. For yrs I have searched unclaimed properties under different names and when I found one that felt right I repeatedly asked the FBI agent for proof that Duane was John Collins so I could make application about the contents of the boxes. You have to show proof of relationship if they are deceased and have the personal information available. I had NO will from John Collins or any way to prove I was married to John Collins. If any of you have POSITIVE feed and can help me with this outline for the FBI it will be appreciated. Please do this in a PM. There are several on this thread who know the case well and also know my "story" well ...therefore your input will be very valuable - might help us include something we might miss. Any help will be appreciated in this matter - but please do not slam me in the thread. Make your "slams" in PM's. Any positive information you think might need to be included in this formal letter to the FBI regarding Weber we might miss...is appreciated.]

Jo Stated:

Regarding my communications with those outside of this forum:

The plane DID NOT go over Portland - The on the ground reports put the plane between Camas and Portland and going near Troutdale airport. There is only ONE person alive who can tell you were that plane was. Have any of you actually spoke to that person? No pilot in his right mind would take a plane directly over Portland with a bomb aboard...there is protocol in these situations. Protocol was followed. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Sluggo knows who - Frank Roach was and that I never met him. Anyone with access to Duane's criminal record knew who Roach was - I just wanted to find more information about him and see if he was a Good guy or a Bad guy as Duane claimed. I do not have a mental problem other than having banged my head against a wall for 14 yrs with the FBI and others. Sluggo has met me ONE time...seriously doubt he is qualified to establish my mental heath based on that. In late 1979 - 1980 I went with Duane to XX where he instructed me to stay in the car - while he went into a bank there with his briefcase. I thought this strange but as usual never asked questions.... In Jan. of 1990 Weber went to great extents to obtain a Drivers license under John Collins. Duane made a PLANE trip to XX in Feb of 1990...using the identification of John Collins. He needed that John Collins ID to access a safe deposit box in XX opened in 1980 under the name of John Collins. Upon his return he opened a Safe Deposit Box on Feb 26, 1990. We already had a Safe Deposit Box. I was NOT aware of the second safe deposit until his death. Shortly before his death he returned to the local Safe Deposit Box and left only one item - a 1994 December Issue of Soldier of Fortune Mag. In March of 1995 Weber enters a hospital and died 3 weeks later on March 28, 1995. In May of 1995 - I sell his van and then 2 wks later a wallet with all of the John Collins ID is returned to me - found concealed within the van. Not anyone of you find any of that strange? What I found strange was the reactions made to my simply explaining away in a Polite way Jerry's statement regarding Roach. I do not understand and was offended by Sluggo's statement regarding me - with NO just cause. You can look at those charts till the end of time - they are not going to tell you who Cooper was. You can talk about the chutes and likelyhood of survival - they are not going to tell you who Cooper was. 1. If I state a FACT versus a MYTH, certain individuals get upset...such as ticket agent versus gate agent. 2. If I state a truth not yet mentioned refuting myths created by others - someone else gets upset. This is a NO WIN situation, but I would like to see an apology in this forum to me and my family. It is time for the truth - and this will happen very very soon. Sorry if any of you have been bored or think this is some kind of game - but, there is one thing for sure - I am no longer welcome here nor do I want to remain...I only defend myself and I am tired of trying to keep the myths and self-effacing lies out of the Cooper Story. I hope all of you had your fun at my expense. Yes, I am sad, but not defeated. I have fought a long and hard battle - this has not been easy for me. Several of the posters were here only for themselves and not because they want to find out who Cooper was - but. to hear themselves expell their intelligence and/or lack of it. Duane Weber was Dan Cooper! If you don't know Now - You will Never Know. P.S. I just delete a lot of things I wanted to say - but Quade said it best. "THIS IS A NO WIN SITUATION!" but, will add this. Those who Won the Battle Lost the War. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jerry stated:

Frank Roach and a Red Truck - I don't know anything about a red truck - there are LOTS of red trucks and since I never met Frank Roach how would I know about what kind of vehicle he drove. Yes, the name is very very important regarding the histor of Duane L. Weber and how would you pull that name out unless I gave it to you? Go look at Duane's prison records - you will find the name there Mr. Know it ALL. I cannot reveal in a public forum the connection of Roach and Weber. I suggest you call your friend Sluggo - I am sure he will fill you in if he thinks it is any of your business. He might be more interested in how or why you pulled that particular name out of your hat of tricks and ploys. Since Sluggo is more discreet than that. I am sure he will make sure what you have said is DISCLOSED to the FBI. The FBI might like to know where you pulled the name from (before this thread ever was a seed in my mind)...you would be going to pre-computer days for me - prior to 2000. What would be the chance you would pull that name out of your memory back in those days prior to 2000. Sluggo knows exactly who Frank Roach is and so does the FBI but PERHAPS you need to pick up your phone and call Agent Larry Carr. This was even mentioned in my communications with Ralph Himmelsbach in the pre- computer days for Jo Weber. Like I said before - this discussion should be private and you need to take it up with the FBI...now pick your go to JAIL card...San Quentin, Folsom or Canon City. You will find that name there and then buy the court house and check out the marriage certificates. REMEMBER this is private business and if you go any further with that name in a public forum you will need a Get Out of Jail card. This is NOT monopoly? This is not a GAME.

Yes, I know who Mr. Roach is - rather was!. Why do you ask? By the way - when I spoke about I-5 what I said was "when we went over a concrete drain (he mentioned that he knew someone who hid something there at one time)". Since you kept insisting the body of WATER Duane took me to had to be the Columbia - I had to assume this was the place Duane took me, but you kept ignoring what I told you about the Washougal being on my left (told me there was NO way). Who was I to questiong the word of the man on the ground...you. When the crew took me to this place on I-5 as you had directed them - I was ADAMANT (very adamant) this was not the place he made the remark "This is where Cooper walked out of the woods". I asked them to take me to the Washougal and tried to feel my way around - but the moment I saw the Washougal I knew that was not the "river" I saw . We spent the better part of that day looking for that "river". I kept telling you on the phone the body of water was NOT the Columbia, but it was you who insisted Duane turned me around. When I saw the Columbia (for the second time in my life) I knew that was not the "body" of water Duane took me to where we both got out of the car and walk around and his pointing across the "river" what I now know to be a very long lake. NOT one time did you mention this lake and I told you we crossed the Columbia and went into a small town with a brick building near a bridge. I told you about the cemetery he took me to and mentioned some kind of camp that used to be near it. You were having NONE of it.... When we did get to I-5 he did point out a concrete covert to the East and mentioned someone hiding something there - and in the same breath mentioned a recreational area to the West where "they" used to go. "Just some guys he worked with". He also mentioned the pipelines and the power lines to the East that ran parallel thru there in the same conversation. Further North on I-5 me mentions another cemetary to the East and told me about knowing a woman who owned a business in St. Helen. So you selectively remember my talking about Roach. I am not sure his first name was Frank at this moment, but I know who his wife was and I know Duane told me this man was "mean" and that he was "bad" and he was a jumper and capable of killing a man with one hand. This man was someones father and another's loving Grandfather - they do not remember this man the way Duane described him. If you wish to talk to me about this in private we will discuss it with another person present or using a conference call. I will not discuss it in a forum - because there are some things that are PRIVATE and there are other people involved. Not everything is an OPEN BOOK. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Sometime ago I believe it was Sluggo who posted that a Army guy was going to be doing a search of the possible jump areas and he was in-charge of trying to get permission to search certain areas. I want to be sure these guys have access to MY maps with the drawn in foot path and with certain things marked. I have the Washougal to 500 area map - I have never been able to post it - this was the special map sent to me a few months ago when I found my hill. Power lines and Pipe lines and possible foot path has been drawn in by me. They also need to have copies of maps that I have that go to the China Ditch from Brush Prairie and Scroton's Corner. I do not have old detailed maps of the area between China Ditch and the area of the 1st map I mentioned.

There have been lots of conspiracy theories regarding Cooper because he has evaded detection for 38 yrs. The researcher claimed to have recorded documentation of the stewardesses stating Coffelt was Cooper. The incident regarding the "black cars" and saying it was a matter of National Security and "suggested" they not continue with their filming. The gentleman seems to be creditable - as there were 5 witnesses to the above action. Did anyone think about WHY Coffelt just seemed to be forgotten as a suspect - early on? I suggested to the "individual" today - that maybe there were several guys and the first to die would claim he was Cooper and so on down the line - I was joking of course, but that is where I left the conversation. I could not and would not ridicule this man as others have done me. This man is a senior citizen and was a successful member of the media information circuits in those days. I believe he firmly thinks his suspect was Cooper and others believe their suspect was Cooper. Why do I even bother to investigate what others have done? Because I am always looking for that one small link - that might connect any two of the suspects...yet each one of the writers over the yrs will not share timelines on the lives of the suspects. Also the FBI has other "deathbed confession" (so they say - but these where never made public - so how do we find them? Could there be a common thread between these suspects? Part of the conversation today - brought about this statement.."None of them ever imagined that anyone of them might marry someone 17 yrs younger." Very little of this conversation was hypothetical and most of it was based on his research and my research...each believes our own suspect was Cooper. Both of us being considerate of the others opinions..but listening to what each was saying. Before we had discussed sharing time lines and I sent him a sketch of Duane's but he had not shared his suspect's time line - he agreed to do so in this conversation...I am 70 and he is 80 so time is closing in on us. The only thing that makes me even mention "cover-up" is my personal experience. I did not claim Ckret (Carr) threatened me, but he did say "If you come to Wa you could get in trouble." What was NOT an appropriate was his discussing with a private citizen any content of this call - totally unprofessional. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Neustel and Bertel - no one was interested. Anyone ever wonder WHY Coffelt just went POOF!. According to the source - There are actual tapes of individuals interviewing Tina and Florence regarding Coffelt....both who state Coffelt is Cooper. I will believe that informatin when I see it. All of this was early on in the case - prior to 1980. How many of you know that the articles supposedly written by Brown - where actually plagurized from another author and Brown put himself in the place of the other writer. I have read and compared the articles written by Brown and other article appearing in the London Observer - with the same details, but the story in the London Observer was written yrs before the article Byrom Brown claimed to have written was published in the Las Vegan. So how is that for new facts and myths. Fact - the article was plagurized. Unknown - are thereactual video tapes of Tina and Florence claiming Coffelt was Cooper and if so - why have they not revealed this to the public? I never felt Coffelt was Cooper, but the person who told me he had the videos has told me truths about other things - which he proved by producing of the plagurization of the London Observor articles. I am not the person for finding and having interviews indept with this individual. ..but participated in several long conversation with this man who has more actual information about the crime and the witnesses than any of us have ever been privey to. Now does anyone really want to investigate or just create myths? The above story is true and is not myth...for someone with the means and unbiased abililties and who can keep the facts straight I will put you in contact with this person. The man knows the case very very well including the facts about Weber and Coffelt. He does NOT participate in forums - but he has lots of information regarding this case never publicized - the man is creditable and once held a high profile position with-in the media. Not one of you have been where I have been in this investigation - I continue to make my calls and do my thing - but, I do take the time to listen to individuals I have reason to believe are creditable. He is convinced Coffelt was Cooper, but his information about Coffelt is best I can determined second hand and not in the first person. The above individual has quietly done his on research with the help of other for more yrs than I have researched Weber and his story fell on deaf ears. I at least listen and try to find out why he is so convinced Coffelt was Cooper. His stories are interesting and / but similiar to my own story in different ways. I enjoy hearing about his search and he has never had closure yet, he doesn't stop believing or hoping that someday the truth will be admitted. He strongly believes this crime was committed by more than one Man (which by the way was again plagurized by Brown - in some places word for word). A matter of National Security were the words spoke when government cars pulled up to stop production of a story this man had done. Now I am admitting - I let you guys think that was my phrasing. but it was not. His story happened Yrs Ago and now they FBI is doing the same with Weber.... We basically ended the conversation today in agreement that maybe more than on man committed the skyjacking and then each one as they have died off admitted - I am Dan Cooper. The first to die was Coffelt. Perhaps Gossett was one of this group? I would like to know what the FBI has to say about others who have also claimed to be Cooper and how many have actually done this? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, tonight I will throw some stuff out there and hope you can read it or at least maybe one of you will understand where I have been. Do any of you know who K. Neustel is? If not find out and tell me what you know about him. Do any of you know who N Bertel is? If not find out and tell me what you know about him. I spoke with both of these men yrs and yrs ago...now it makes no difference because NO one will ever listen. Both of them may be deceased by now, but I know what they told me. Don't understand my notes on Nuestel, but my notes on Bertel are very very clear. The difference between Golf and Skyjumping! Golf = Whack and then uh-oh. Jumping - Uh- Oh - then Whack. Found that when I was trying to find out if Neustel was still alive, but I don't think that is the same Neustel - but, maybe it is and if it is maybe he is still alive. Just the fact that the name was Neustel and he was a jumper - maybe there is more than one Neustel who was a jumper from 1944 to I don't know when - he has to be dead. Talked to both of these guys in 1998...that was 12 yrs ago. If either of them are still alive I don't even know if they will remember a phone call asking them if they knew John Collins or Duane Weber and what they knew about D.B. Cooper and other very private questions. If the FBI ever talked to them about Cooper - bet they never owe up to it...but then maybe the FBI was too busy chasing terrorist and bank robbers. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Wonder where those guys (note the article has no writers credited) get their info. Certainly not from me and if you are familiar with the other - individuals they spoke about - you would know this to be a farce. I have read other articles that made mistakes and misquotes, but this one takes the "CAKE". Yes, we can put Duane in a chute (if we can verifiy the source) and through association with others who did jump(most of who would be deceased.. As for skydiving - that one is a stretch - other than maybe for 2 wks in the 60's - no one would even remember him and maybe "No one was Supposed to". This would have been done using an AKA and with an altered appearance - maybe why one individual claimed Duane's hair was "Sandy" but, I ignore this person until recently. I am now researching things on the computer that I found in the early yrs before I went public and before doors were "closed". Finding out about the past of one specific person - has really opened my eyes to some possiblities. Unfortunately they fall under the quise of a word none of us like "covert"...but not in the military. His phrasing which I wrote word for word "The Government came in a seized ALL of our records," This was after 1971. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The Dep. of Justice's Office of Special Invevestigations is referred to as OSI. OSI is still actively investigating and trying to track 65 yrs later Nazi War Criminals. I do not understand the terminology War Criminals after all of these yr and some of these "war" criminals where just doing their job and taking orders. The millions of Jews killed under Hitler's order was an outrage, but is it anymore of an outrage than America ordering The "N" bombs to be used in Japan? Is it any different than the Civil war - brother killing brother because of ORDERS? The US cannot even prosecute the few remaining war criminals who "might" still be found, but the can denaturalize and deport them. Our FBI and CIA is not actively ensueing the Cooper case because they do not have the man power nor funds, yet we can spend tax dollars to fund the OSI. The OSI is merging with another organization - but the target is still war crimes. Our own Government is quilty of WAR Crimes. Every war has victims - deliberately or accidentally...the "war criminals" acted on Orders being given by their superior. I have always question this "Nazi" hunt, but for our government to have special organizations paid for with today's tax dollars 65 yrs later I question our Democracy even more. The FBI makes cursory investigations into Cooper suspects. Cooper did not just threaten to kill one person - he was willing to kill 30 some odd citizens. Perhaps it is just me - but, I find using tax dollars to hunt for WAR criminals 65 yrs later is very shallow of the USA. Makes one wonder - will our own military commanders and other servants of the government be pursued for WAR crimes against other nations yrs from now? The gas chambers were an atrocity, but is it any different than other "incidents done for the sake of war" by our own government? No response is needed or wanted - I did NOT know until today that these Hunt's were paid for with tax dollars...and I see something wrong with this...65 yrs later - morally and logically and politically. Just blowing off some steam now back to attacking weeds. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber