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OK BUT THEY WILL BE THERE :) Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

ok who on the list wont be there ? Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

We need more outer staters (? spelling ) I am sick of jumping with the same people lol :) Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

I have room for at least 5 if wog's back yard gets to full Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

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I guess you took my last post off lol thanks Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

I wont really say what I want too . But I will say That I dont know shit . I never said I did . I am WORKING with a AFFI on this . All I am doing is gathering footage and he is telling me what to do with it . Thanks for your comments Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

I want to apologize for my frastation yesterday . I appreciate all the help . I also understand that I am new to this sport and I just do it for fun . Most of the comments were left from people that have so much more experience then me. Thank you for your help

I still think it could be helpful in teaching . You will always ask the student demostrate that they are capable . I think that video could show them something that is wrong instead of seeing it in the sky for the first time. Sorry about the spelling

All I have to say is Blue skies and I am trying to make it as best as possible . Its only bin two weeks that we have bin working on it and I know it shows . Again the only reason I put it on SDM's was so my AFFI could see what footage I had so far . And as far as copy rights I clealy state that It was material taken from that web site . I am not reselling anything . As far as I know when you put a video on a public web site its there for the taking . I could be wrong . God knows I have bin in the past . Wow I guess I had more then one thing to say Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

I think you do not understand the difference between passive and active learning. It does not matter whether you use flashcards or some image projected from a DVD or computer to show a jumper in a hanging harness 'this is what you have' - and asking 'what will you do?' The plain simple fact is that when you give these pictures to someone and they respond by operating or pulling handles appropriately, they will learn better and faster than just watching a passive video presentation and nodding in agreement. There is no reputable skydiving school that says 'here watch this and read this' and then takes someone up on a jump. They need to see the student execute the proper procedures (more than once) to be convinced that they have learned what to do. You need to focus more on Trial and Practice than Explanation and Demonstration. E&D is easy. It's getting the student to do the T&P correctly that is the hard part. . I think you are the one that doesnt under stand . I am not saying just put a video in and then go jump out of a plane at all . What we are trying to do is put a video together so as you go threw the jump class you can watch a clip of video then teach what is on the video ( by using harness ect. ) Thats what we are trying to do Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Thank you and I do respect what everyone is saying here . In your earlier post you said that you should look at the positives and work with them when teaching a student .Most of the post are negative . All I am saying is give me some comments on how to make it better not tell me legal stuff . I understand all that .That was the reason in putting it on this site . To get suggestions from AFFI's on what they would like to see in it and what they are using now to teach . There really is no ego here . I just feel like everyone is say that I shouldnt bother thats all . I think something like this could be very helpful if done right Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

I understand how the world works today . I don't need a lecture on that. . This video is by far from being done and all we are trying to do is improve what material my AFFI has to teach with . We are not going to put this on the market for sale or anything . If you have suggestions on how to make it better then great. If it makes you feel better in giving me a lectures on how we should go back to using flash card instead of keeping up with the time thats fine too . At least we are trying to make the sport we all love better and not sitting at a computer tearing apart someone work for doing so . AGAIN thank you for your comments

Dude Thanks but stop drowning me in your negativity. Blue skies Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

YOU ARE SO RIGHT lol Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Because you probably signed off on it Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Thanks and Me too on the wishing . We had flash cards lol Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Yes I will definitely give them credit . We are not going to sell this . It going to be used at our HDZ in the class room Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Thank you for taking the time to wright what you did . I respect all comment given to me about this sport . There are a few thing I would like to replay to The reason I posted the first video , Is to show my AFFI that I am working with and what footage I got from SDM's . I threw it together to put on that web site so he can see what I had . We live in two different states. Since I put it up there I figure lets not make it boring . He is NOT showing that in a class room . I have put a new video up on there with that footage from the first video and a video he already had . Again he is not going to use that either. Its the only way I can show him the progress . What we want to do is break every part of the jump class in to chapters on a DVD . The good and the bad http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=5587 This is the second one and its VERY FAR from being done In your last reply you said a few thing that I would like to answer 1.You state that – “Well this is one of my fears in posting it . Getting critics.” First lesson of production: Hang your ego at the door, learn to embrace criticism I have know problem with critics . I just posted so My AFFI could see it and the fear was that I would get critic's on something that was not done 2. In your statement: “I want to teach my students when and when not to chop. You have many chop-worthy shots, some get chopped, some don't. Some they wait a long time, some they don't....” That was some esles statement that I was replying too 3.one aspect of the conveyance of this information you may want to consider getting out of your head is the illustrations of negatives. Showing someone what not to do is not an effective teaching method. I agree 4.“my students If I said this I didn't mean too but I do want to get my AFF rating someday Again Thank you for your time in taking different looks at thing it does help. Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

As I am NOT a AFFI ,I am working with one on this video . With that said I did go threw AFF and I have to strongly disagree with you on everything you have said . Heres why , I think video is a great tool in teaching skydiving . It is only a tool to use in the teaching process . Just telling someone what can go wrong is not enough in my opinion.I think the student would get a much better understanding of let say a line twist , If you show a video of it and then tell them how to get out of it. This way when they get one they dont panic and chop it because they only had a AFF I tell them what it looked like or the saw a flash card . Then again I dont have the rating and I dont teach AFF so what do I know but thanks for your comments Blue skies Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Here is where we are at with it http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=5587 Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Here is a update on where we are at with it http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=5587 Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

The music was put on there just for the web site. ( For Show) We have slider up in the edited version Thanks Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

Thanks Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!

If I heard this once I have heard it a 1000 times Never give the gates up and always trust your rears!