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I used to have a full-auto Colt .45. What was disconcerting was that I never knew when it would slip into full-auto. I would just be plinking away and suddenly...BZZZT...it would empty the rest of the clip. I sent it back to Colt and asked them to either add a selective-fire button, or put it back to permanent semi-auto. They chose the latter. Sounds like a problem with the secondary sear creating a slam fire. That probably scared the shit out of you the first time it happened. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Probably. Someone should have told told the worker that cops can't taste spit. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Amen. I have a doc friend, and knowing him as well as I do, I wouldn't trust him to treat my dog for worms. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Stores can refuse any cash payment at their discretion. The store can refuse if you insist upon paying in all pennies, or in hundreds, or in any denomination as they see fit (or unfit, I guess). A cash transaction is not a debt. For instance there's a deli in Chicago, iirc, that refuses coins and prices all its sandwiches in round dollars (after tax). Per the US Treasury If you order, eat , and then pay, it IS a debt. If you pay, and then they bring the food, it's not. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

The key word in there is 'reasonable', That word introduces way too many problems into the law. What is considered reasonable varies widely from person to person. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Meh. Unless it's gay toilet sex, who cares? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Questions of liberty and freedom, even small ones, have become important considerations due to the crying, ghost viewing moron. Maybe nobody was surprised -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Well stated. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

My ACLU attorney who follows me around will take care of them, one civil rights lawsuit at a time. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I would never try to leave without paying. I'm dumb, but not THAT dumb. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I'm sure the hackers have already figured out how to beat RFID technology. With RFID they might not even have a cashier. You just walk out and the scanner adds up your items and charges your card. Disputes could be a problem though - like if they charge you for a 52" Plasma TV instead of a bag of oranges. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Aw.......shut up! You can see the difference, can't you? Checking a receipt and looking through a bag is a search. Checking ID when using your credit card is verifying identity for a cash transaction. Also, I'm certain that the credit card agreement states something about providing ID for certain transactions. Sorry I couldn't work something about someone getting nailed in the keyster in there....... -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I WANT them to ask for ID when using a credit card. Checks? Anyone still writing checks needs to be kicked in the groin. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

When the alarm goes off they want to check your receipt. They run after you "Sir! Sir!....." etc. The Circuit City and Best Buy in my area have never had receipt checkers. Christ, maybe I should start stealing there..... -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Maybe the stores you go to are different. At the stores I am talking about a siren goes off and a red light starts flashing when you leave the store. After that they want to look through your bags. This is usually caused by a tag not being properly deactivated by the cashier, or by someone carrying out something not scanned at all (a thief). -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

If they are willing to put the little credit card swipe thing right at the exit, that would be OK. Once I pay they need to keep their grubby little paws off my shit and out of my bag. You seem to imply that I don't want to stop crooks. On the contrary, I want them all to be caught, but they need to leave me out of the process. I'd like to see some proof that these scanners at the exits stop theifs anyway. If the shit is in a purse, that they do not check, tell me, how does this help? The bag matches the reciept and the crook is on his/her way. Is that how it works? They need to catch the crooks in the act and leave everyone else out of it. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

So rules should not apply to you?? Why? They cannot open their doors to the public and set rules that violate the law. Or maybe they can set them, but I have no responsibility to obey. I believe that stopping/detaining innocent people is against the law. I don't care if it's 5 minutes or 5 seconds. They need to catch the crooks and leave me alone. Or have a policy that they search EVERYONE. That would be less offensive to me. Stopping me and looking in my bag is a search. It is there responsibility not to violate the law. If they illegally search or detain me, they will be the ones in trouble, not me. I do buy online. I see the online purchase as different. The goods are not mine until I recieve tham. Up to that point I could refuse delivery and reverse charges. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

It is their Store. Their rules. Wrong. Their rules cannot violate the law or my rights. That's a fact, and calling it "liberal bullshit" does not make it false. I am not a liberal, by the way. You call it a verification, I call it a search. Maybe next they can come out to the car and 'verify' you have nothing stolen in your trunk. And I don't know what the fuck personal responsibility has to do with this. You think that they have the right to search your bag of your property that you own, and I think they DO NOT have that right. I think they should use cameras and security people to catch crooks and leave the innocents to go about their business. And I will shop where I want, thank you very much. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

If a law is passed requiring everyone to prove they are not a thief before they are allowned to leave a store, we have bigger problems. What will I do? Probably disobey the law. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Actually, it doesn't. Just about every store does this shit now, so I wouldn't be able to shop anywhere. The fact is, they have no right to search and detain people who did nothing wrong. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

How about you stay the fuck out of thier store if you dont like thier policies?? How hard is that?? How about No? They have no right to policies that violate the law. How about that? They have their signs, I have mine. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I've got it. How about I wear a sign on my chest that says "This patron does not consent to searches by store employees and any attempt at unlawful detention will be met with appropriate force." There. They have their signs, I have mine. (wipes hands together signifying a completed job, well done) -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I don't quite go that far but I do often pick my battles based on whether or not the outcome of winning a fight is worth the time and hassle of having the fight. I see your point, and understand. But after I stand in line for 30 minutes because they won't hire the necessary cashiers, I'm in a fighting mood. Then when they try to screw with me on my way out the door it only makes things worse. Add to that the near road rage from the traffic trying to get there and I'm ready to take something that seems trivial to the Supremet Court and beyond. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Would you be okay with the police searching your car after being pulled over for a burnt out tail light? Would you mind if the government wished to place cameras throughout your house? Would you be fine with being strip searched just to make sure you are not hiding something when you are doing nothing but walking down the street? Maybe you should volunteer to have your phone bugged. After all, if you have nothing to hide, you should be alright with being monitored 24 hour a day. Right? I once refused to let the cops search my car after being pulled over on a traffic violation. They called in the dogs and wasted a crap load of man hours that would had been better spent actually doing their fucking jobs. They wasted a crap load of the taxpayers dollar running their stupid fucking dogs around my car. I'll never, ever allow the gestapo to search my car. I'm more than happy to sit and laugh at these idiots as they parade their dogs around wasting time while someone robs a gas station elsewhere. Did the dogs 'hit' on anything. Sometimes I think the dogs are just there to provide just cause for a search. The dog scratches his ass and the cops say "There it is, he gave the signal - let's tear this jalopy apart!" -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

How is showing your receipt equivalent to a search of your person? How is showing your receipt equivalent to getting fucked in the ass? hard to have a discussion with some one when they display an attitude like that. I was making the point that there is a line that most people hit where policy become unaccpetable and a violation. My line is hit when I am checked out just in case I MIGHT be a thief. I resent that, and will not submit to it. Go catch the thieves - leave me the hell alone. As far as I am concerned, once I pay, my obligation to the store has ended. I am now leaving with my stuff, and that is the end of it. Here is a story from nearby me that involves shoplifting and a big box store. It seems that most of these (if not all) would not have been stopped by a receipt check - http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/208826 This was done the right way - they caught the crooks by observing their theft and arresting them. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.