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gotta hand it to the dude for keeping his cool so well. karma's a bitch (like the chick is).... she'll get hers. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Thanks Murray! Just got version 7 last week myself and all this stuff you're talking is SO helpful! What a good Canadian! 'Shell What a coincidence! i just got v7 last week too! Who'da thunk it! And canadian ARE pretty nice! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

My understanding is that people of faith are "captive of a concept"... and they have the ability to stay captive within their concept, ability to block out all of their reasoning skill and keep themselves boxed inside their precious concept. Personal choice is involved. Addicts do not have personal choice. SMiles Whilst I agree with most of that I would hsten to add that having Faith in itself does not mean you are "captive", faith has many many measures. And as to Addicts not having personal choice, this too is also not true, I chose to stop using after I survived 12 years of active addiction, certain things had to fall in place before that choice was the preferred one. but they are still personal choices. for 12 years I chose to use drugs, Congrats on getting clean -and STAYING clean- for so long now! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Cook it???? sauteed w/ onions, por favor! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Well now that you've spelled it out, i'm sure he will. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

BAHAHAHA!!! Oh you're a funny, funny man! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

You are SO BAD!! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Some people who wrap their lives around their god/religion have, indeed, substituted god for their substance of choice. Whatever the origin of the addictive personality, it's a smoother path for them to be hooked on ...something, than see the possibility of the scary uncertainty to be in control of their lives. Some are addicts (not "in some way") but addicts in the full sense of the word. Others of faith? Early indoctrination? Societal reward? Community pressures? Personal decisions based on their own values? I have no idea, for these are not the people of faith I was referring to. Guess what... ready for a shocker? I agree with you! Be still, my fluttering heart!

Some people who wrap their lives around their god/religion have, indeed, substituted god for their substance of choice. Whatever the origin of the addictive personality, it's a smoother path for them to be hooked on ...something, than see the possibility of the scary uncertainty to be in control of their lives. Some are addicts (not "in some way") but addicts in the full sense of the word. Others of faith? Early indoctrination? Societal reward? Community pressures? Personal decisions based on their own values? I have no idea, for these are not the people of faith I was referring to. Guess what... ready for a shocker? I agree with you! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

I know this isn't to me, but as I make fun of religious people constantly, I'll answer my opinion. I'm not one to decide whether a person of faith is an addict. I understand what faith is. I have faith too. It's just that I focus my faith on my inner strength, and, in times of stress, I make sure I follow the guidelines that I have laid down for myself (through a variety of sources, all depending on the subject matter.) For example, if I'm landing a parachute and realize I'm landing downwind in too fast winds and start getting stressed, I follow the guidelines of "relax, breath, count, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, -- flare!" -- yes it has happened. I see the true purpose of the Bible, the Koran, the Gita, the Tao, and the other texts as the same. They provide a set of guidelines to follow when we don't otherwise know what to do, to give us a way to lead a good and proper life. However, no one text can cover all facets of life, especially not thousands of years after first written, and when one attempts to do so, without regard for things that have since been proven scientifically, yes, I believe that person to be an addict in his or her own way. Thanks for your answer

The two of you innocent?? I am just not buying it! steve, i'm afraid you're guilty by association here. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

OMG that's too funny. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

But you find it amusing to denigrate women who wear paint and you feel it's fine to denigrate women who express their opinion about God. how long will this pissing contest last mighty mouse? let's just let it die, shall we? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

honest question, devoid of any 'tude, baggage or agenda: do you believe people of faith are, in some way, addicts? i realize this is a "one size fits all" question, put this way purposely for brevity and to allow you to extrapolate as you wish... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Hey, I saw supersuckers CDs in Best Buy in (oh fuck, where was I yesterday..............................................) Fort Wayne! They had a handful of copies! Made me think warm thoughts of you! Motherfuckers be trippin! Funny thing is they had a "Parental Advisory" sticker on the CD cover that warned of "explicit album cover language" but didn't cover the album cover language! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

And here I'd finally blocked that whole incident from my mind.... and you boys bring it back. krisanne, steve's molesting my rig! MAKE HIM STOP!!! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

OMG, hilarious... I bet Border's doesn't carry it though... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

There is no way to answer this w/o it sounding REALLY bad, but it was all very innocent, I swear! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

for his own good and the good of all he may be endangering. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Good One!!! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

You aint had pudding, till you've had my mums trifle wanna send me some? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

oh my... people in Chili's are looking at me funny 'cos i'm laughing loudly. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

i found that funny too... "oh look at Jenny (I don't know any female muslim names, sorry) didn't she look stunning that day?" "you oaf, that was Lucy!" "no it wasn't, it was Gretchen!" "you're all wrong, it was ME! Don't you know your mother when you see her??? " I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

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I like that. If the guy is unsafe, ignoring him may just be negligent. Taking a proactive stance like Beverly suggests can have some serious and quick behavior mod effects. Back when Chris Martin was alive and I was just through AFF, there was one of these guys there at Tullahoma. Constantly running his mouth and actually affecting business. A couple of low pulls was all it took for Chris to ground him. He never came back. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...