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both statements are "Id10T" crap there. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Amazing that after quite a long time of not posting, your long history of misunderstanding (intentional or not) my posts here shows up so quickly, Bill. I did not say NEED. While it is true that the locus of control should be within the person, the truth is that the norms of behavior are different from location to location (i.e. church, court, dropzone, love shack) and the style of dress is different as well. It's akin to different norms of behavior for different cultures - you don't act the same doing business in Japan as you do in Germany or Israel. If you did, you wouldn't get the business. People who try to deny this simply, self-evident truth are the real idiots. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

So if a doctor is on trial for malpractice, only other doctors should be on the jury? Sorry, but that's not the way the system works, at least not in the USA. A jury is not a professional ethics review board. You're misrepresenting what he said. He didn't say it should all be physicians. The makeup of the jury should, however, be more representative of who HE is. You may as well have said he wants the entire jury to all be white, male, jewish, ages 50-65 who make 300 grand+ per year as plastic surgeons and who have mistresses in miami. how absurd. it's just as absurd to think the jury should be all poor blacks who don't give a damn about sticking it to a rich white doctor b/c their lives suck living in the projects. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

The whole point of the jury system is that you do not get the best and brightest on the jury, nor are you supposed to. The judge may be the best and brightest in his/her field. The lawyers may be the best and brightest in their fields. But the whole point of the way the system is set up is that the jury is supposed to consist of 12 very ordinary people of very ordinary ability and intelligence. Perhaps I didn't quite make my point as clear as I could have... if those that are more intelligent, have more advanced degrees, make a higher wage, are involved in professions that would tempt them to shirk jury duty ("i'm too important to do this"), then who is left to serve? those who can't shirk? I'm not also trying to be pretentious about this either but think about this for a second. i truly want to be tried by a jury of my peers, not a randomly selection of unemployed, uneducated people who really do not want to be there and are not interested in fulfilling their civic responsibility and metering out justice the way our system was designed. jury selection is supposed to help w/ that, but if all you have to choose from are those who were too dumb to figure out how to get out of serving, that doesn't bode well for the innocently accused or for the victims seeking justice. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Well, that's where you and I differ greatly. People will generally raise the tenor of their behavior to how they appear. Not always but often. And the judicial system is one that should be given the respect and deference of nicer dress, not sloppiness. These things matter. Same reason you don't go meeting important heads of state dressed like a bum. Their office matters. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Flame me all you want, but I just don't get this desire to shirk jury duty. One day you just may need to be judged by a jury of your peers, and by God you sure as hell will want the best and brightest people on that jury. But some of the "best and brightest" are the very same who are the ones who see jury duty as some sort of judicial purgatory, metered out lottery style. It's really a shame and it's part of the reason, IMO, why our legal system is in such disarray. The last time I served on jury duty, it was a sexual assault case, father charged against his teenage daughter. If he was not found guilty of that charge, he could be found guilty of a lesser simple assault charge or no charge at all. The case against him for the sexual assault charge was VERY compelling to everyone in the jury. However, we could not come to that verdict simply because some people in the jury pool could not settle their conscience with the thought of this man being labelled for the rest of his life as a sex offender, even though THEY ADMITTED THEY THOUGHT he was guilty! WTF??? I couldn't believe it. One other gentleman and myself fought to change the minds of these people to no avail. We were accosted by people in the jury who said things to us like, "we just want to get out of here, we don't want to spend another day doing this nonsense." In the end, he was found guilty of simple assault and justice was NOT served for the victim. What the hell kind of system is that? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Pandering looks so GOOD on you, Jeanne! And bonus points for the use of the term "august!" *golfclap* I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

The OP clearly stated that the county had a dress code in place on the instructions and that people ignored it, dismissed it, etc. Either have it or don't. I think our justice system is important enough that we should have a dress code and a code of behavior in place for jurors and others who participate in the court process and if you don't comply, there should be repercussions. It is not costly to look presentable. Although I own some expensive clothing, I picked up a Brooks Brothers sport coat for about 10 bucks at a consignment shop. Looks fantastic. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Then why oh why do you and yours continue to do it with such annoying frequency??? Oh and as far as the whole smokin a Jeffrey.... I am sure.. that those of you who DO... are as usual.... wrong in thast silly assumption that everyone else must be doing the same as they do. Not that there is anything wrong with that... in your mind..... butI guess you don't mind breaking the laws of our country for personal gratification. Oh and on the strokin issue.... I will leave that to the family values right wing circle jerks.. who do it with such applomb Thank you for yet another barely intelligible, inane attempt at communicating (hence the Jeffrey smoking remark - please try to keep up, dear) which, again, did not even begin to address the central point of the issue, which was that you misunderstood the previous poster's point that outward appearances should not matter in the voting process. Instead, you went to your trademark go-to response of casting sexual deviant aspersions towards those you hate the most. I'm beginning to thing you're some sort of bot. The responses are just to rote. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

How many... would never vote for someone like him because he is black, that is the far more sailient question. I'd say both positions are clearly racist and equally salient - I can't really tell the difference - racism = racism from both directions. we can only hope those voters cancel each other out and the rest of us can recognize them for who they are So you are saying that for you to vote for a white man is racist because you have always voted for a white man??? That's an odd take on the comment. Where are trying to twist this? No, if someone votes for a person SOLELY due to race or gender (or eye color or anything cosmetic) is dispicable and ridiculously lazy. Oh I don't know.... it seems a WHOLE lot of people have been voting for people who look just like them for a hell of a long time.... who was it who started this whole Voting thing again???? Based on what you said... if a black man votes for Obama because he looks just like him.. that is racist, but if ole Billy Bob votes for Haley Barbour because well he looks just like him that is not. Cain't have that now cain we... you iz wantin your hog, taters and cornbread and have it nice and soft so you can eats it too. You must be smoking a Jeffrey. OK, here's what you do... first, stroke a fury wall. Then, re-read what the good man said which was nothing like the shit-stirring nonsense you tried to throw out... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

OK - you owe me a new keyboard dammit He has Biden to eliminate any desire for presidential assassination because the alternate is even more frightening Much like GHWB has Quayle (or Quaiyle) That was f*cking awesome. Just give me the new keyboard once rush gives it to you. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

However, spelling Fallacies with a "ph" is pretty clever when put in amongst the blatancy. I think you give that one-trick-pony too much credit. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

who, exactly are you pointing the finger at, here? i come here maybe once, twice a year and i see you spewing the same vitriol you have always. it'd be funny if it weren't so lame. your self-congratulatory triumphalism doesn't fool many. It seems that as always in Lilliput....all things are proportional as always. but my dear friend, i neither live there nor on Blefuscu. HEY! stop it I have not looked up this many words since I was flunking english in college Please don't tell me you have never read Gulliver's Travels Yes I have many many years ago the words were familiar but I could not remember from where I am getting old happens to the best of us bro, if my kids weren't reading it now (and me, by default, re-reading), those names would have been lost in the demented bowels of my mind as well. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

who, exactly are you pointing the finger at, here? i come here maybe once, twice a year and i see you spewing the same vitriol you have always. it'd be funny if it weren't so lame. your self-congratulatory triumphalism doesn't fool many. It seems that as always in Lilliput....all things are proportional as always. but my dear friend, i neither live there nor on Blefuscu. HEY! stop it I have not looked up this many words since I was flunking english in college Please don't tell me you have never read Gulliver's Travels and for the record... beck's brand of soothsaying i find to be a real turnoff. i get enough of that apocolyptic mumbo jumbo hooey from the marian aparition chaser wackjobs on the fringe of my own religion. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

who, exactly are you pointing the finger at, here? i come here maybe once, twice a year and i see you spewing the same vitriol you have always. it'd be funny if it weren't so lame. your self-congratulatory triumphalism doesn't fool many. It seems that as always in Lilliput....all things are proportional as always. but my dear friend, i neither live there nor on Blefuscu. eta: however, your reference did give me a nice chuckle - thanks! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Doesn't that broad brush you use ever get heavy? Haven't you seen her? She's like a female paul bunyon. She's the only one I know who can weild that big ass brush. (Does get old though, doesn't it) AWWWW whats wrong little fella...its so funny when little men get so.....what was that word again????? All you guys got is those limp little phallacies of BELIEF to fall back on round here. Is the the best PA you can come up with??? Oh please - to think that any of your vituperation bothers me in the least only indicates that you have a horribly inflated sense of self-importance. But that's no surprise to anyone. But I wasn't addressing you anyone, so the fact that you replied lets me know that i bothered you a little, which makes me smile. As for the PA, how can it be an attack if it's the truth? Your brobdingnagian stature is in your damn moniker for crying out loud? Ah, so you are using the word as an adjective? Being that you used it in the lower case? What was your first clue, Webster? the -ian ending? So it should have a capitalized... I thought your name was rushmc, not krisanne... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

who, exactly are you pointing the finger at, here? i come here maybe once, twice a year and i see you spewing the same vitriol you have always. it'd be funny if it weren't so lame. your self-congratulatory triumphalism doesn't fool many. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Doesn't that broad brush you use ever get heavy? Haven't you seen her? She's like a female paul bunyon. She's the only one I know who can weild that big ass brush. (Does get old though, doesn't it) AWWWW whats wrong little fella...its so funny when little men get so.....what was that word again????? All you guys got is those limp little phallacies of BELIEF to fall back on round here. Is the the best PA you can come up with??? Oh please - to think that any of your vituperation bothers me in the least only indicates that you have a horribly inflated sense of self-importance. But that's no surprise to anyone. But I wasn't addressing you anyone, so the fact that you replied lets me know that i bothered you a little, which makes me smile. As for the PA, how can it be an attack if it's the truth? Your brobdingnagian stature is in your damn moniker for crying out loud? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Doesn't that broad brush you use ever get heavy? Haven't you seen her? She's like a female paul bunyon. She's the only one I know who can weild that big ass brush. (Does get old though, doesn't it) I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

If you did that, wouldn't you need antipsychotics? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Unfortunately, no... So i actually read quite a lot of them and try to come to a consensus. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Hiya Michael - we can gin up an argument about the Pope and birth control if ya want... hiya back Mike!!! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

yeah, different year, same arguments by the same people. amazing. f*cking amazing. the more things change the more things stay the same - for some. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

thinking about you much today, brandy. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

I haven't posted here in a very, very long time. I just heard the news and I couldn't be happier. Lee showed me incredible kindness during a very low spot in my life. He was a prince and he is dearly missed. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...