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    No problems here. While I understand how you may not likethe agenda of the religous right (neither do I, as I'm not in agreement with much of what they stand for either) I don't understand why you are against their having the opportunity to voice their beliefs either through lobbying or voting. I don't agree with many enviornementalists who don't want me to own a SUV, (or skydive if the truth be known) but I don't resent their right to express their opinions. Everyone votes and lobbies from a worldview that they identify with. Some people's worldview is centered on religion or morality, others it is on total freedom from laws, still others it is issues like the enviornment, or the safety of our children. Our ability to freely express ourselves and vote our conscience in the USA is one of the many reasons this is such a great place even with our flaws. If our conscience takes direction from a political group, a religous group, or God, it is no one's business but our own. steveOrino
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    I'm not getting angry, are you? steveOrino
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    In other words, go to church if you want, but don't let the teachings of christ effect how you vote, right? steveOrino
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    Maybe you'd do well to learn what freedom means. Who else would you like to tell how to vote besides religous people? steveOrino
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    So you think when people lobby and vote they are forcing their views on others. Should children's right activist or animal right's activist not be able to "force" oops, I mean "vote" their conscience? steveOrino
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    vote your conscience - or vote your religion? their separate - yet the same - i understand - but you should take care to not vote your religion for religous sake. Gimme a break! Where is the rule that says I cannot vote based on my own personal religous convictions? You guys are sounding more and more like the thought police. And you say Christian are forcing their views. steveOrino
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    Amazing how you guys feel everyone but religous people can lobby and vote their conscience. steveOrino
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    yep, I like to restrict the rights of people to drink and drive, have sex with thier children and pets, partake of drugs while teaching school too. I'm such a party pooper. steveOrino
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    Okay, I see your point, but I don't think you would eliminate "any" of the problems as people will still sue for inheritance and spousal support regardless if it is a civil or religous ceremony. steveOrino
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    Do you believe any non-religous objections to polygomous marriages have any merit? steveOrino
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    Do you think the only objection to polygomy is religous? steveOrino
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    my response here is a bit tougher to verbalize. However, I would argue that you are aware of topics that tend to align with religious vs. non-religous viewpoints. One of these would be gay-marriage and I would argue that you would agree that the religous vote carries much weight on this topic. yes? My opposition to "gay marriage" has more to do with what I deem marriage to be. (no commentary from the Bible is necessary for my beliefs) To me, marriage is a union between ONE man, and ONE woman. If you want to say it can be between two men, or two women, why not one man, and three women? Or two men & two women? How about a man and his Harley? steveOrino
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    Yeah, no pics? It didn't happen. steveOrino
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    What he said steveOrino
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    Amazing! The arrogance! You never met me, yet you know empirically I would cave under pressure for my faith. Me, who would have died for my country, but wouldn't give my life for my God?? The fact you have no god and cannot conceive of anything greater than yourself does not mean others are like you! Now, enough with this, I must skydive. sigh, somebody has to do it! steveOrino
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    So, revenues could probably be better with a different name. Do you think it should be legislated though? no. keep government out of it, or there will be no stop. Then EVERY name from Fighting Irish to Vikings will be taboo. steveOrino
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    Sensationalized by non-skydivers who are clueless. That is my opinion. steveOrino
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    But in that same vein No one blinks at Washington Redskins. Living in OK, I'm aware it is a very offensive term, but alas my school where I work is called the Union Redskins much to the dismay of most NA in OK, and they are not exactly a small minority. steveOrino
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    Interesting point. The term "christian" was first a derogatory term by the Romans calling the followers of Christ (or as they preferred to be called, "The Way") "little christ" It was a name of derision. Somewhere along the path the "christians" took to the name. Another in that same vein of thought is the term Xian. I typed it once and my brother, who is a pastor, said "who are the Xians?" To him it was a derogatory name used by those who were trying to take "christ" out of Christmas (Xmas) Actually, the Greek symbol we recognize as X is a symbol for Christ. I respect Spotted Eagle very much and I look forward to reading his response to your question. steveOrino
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    I'm all for protecting innocent children from porn, but this seems like putting a hospital at the bottom of a bridge that is out. steveOrino
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    I do that as I can't tell where some people post stop and end. steveOrino
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    Nah, sure. I suppose that is why there is so little debate about global warming being caused by human emission of CO2 or sun spots. /satire steveOrino
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    The problem with your example is that no matter do you vote or not, it won't change anything - because the majority supports it. It appears you have been well indoctrinated by your former USSR. The majority has changed their mind a million times over the years. Thank God the USA is not the USSR! While one never knows what they will actually do until they are actually confronted what they will do in a time of crisis the safe bet (ask those who know me) I'd be the pastor standing up and going to the gulagog for my beliefs. I realize my thoughts sound foreign to you, but 52 years of freedom in the USA has taught me we have every opportunity to change what we don't like about our society if we do not grow weary in well doing. steveOrino
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    In all of my years of study I have never heard of one person who stated all doctrines came into existance at the Council of Nicea, and that prior to that event it was only "teachings" I think I have well proven my point. I'm sorry you and Hairy don't get it. Based on the emails & PMs I keep getting I think others do, and I'm beating a dead horse. So I'll quit reposting the same examples. steveOrino