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50 yards?!? No way, I saw the whole thing (see attachment)

Around here it's: P.E.T.A People Embarassing the Tidewater Area Nice buck by the way. We've got plenty of deer here but they're not much bigger than my dogs. (Dog attached)

I think it's a GREAT idea!

1. Isn't "Fox and Friends" the editorial portion of the broadcast - sort of like Olberman or O'Reilly? Yea, it's their morning circle jerk session. And this is helping to make my point as well. When the vast majority of the programming on FOX NEWS is "editorial" (Fox and Friends, Hannity, O'Reilly, Hume, Gibson, Cavuto....etc) news content, when do they provide just "news"? And for the record, the "Obama makes a girl cry" bit was on "America's Newsroom". No. He didn't endorse the team. This is what he said. "Today, talk is about the seemingly invincible ticket that might be created with Hillary for President and Obama for Vice President. Both of them feel the sacred duty of demanding "a democratic government in Cuba". They are not making politics: they are playing a game of cards on a Sunday afternoon. The media declares that this would be essential, unless Gore decides to run. I don't think he will do so; better than anyone, he knows about the kind of catastrophe that awaits humanity if it continues along its current course. When he was a candidate, he of course committed the error of yearning for "a democratic Cuba".

I swear, your timing is perfect

See attachment.

You're not paying attention. I provided examples for both you and lawrocket. Maybe I should call the EIB network to get you to hear me. I doubt I'll get past the screeners though.

Not desperate at all. I just know that I've already wasted too much time backing up my original assertion and to provide any additional examples would be greeted with either silence or about a dozen various emoticons. Your commentary is typically an echo chamber for right wing talk shows. Those programs are rude, deliberately misinformative, have no accountability and because that sort of petty, vindictive, disparaging form of "entertainment" sells it starts creeping into what passes for "news" these days. Case in point: November 2 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom: MEGYN KELLY: Well, in other news, Barack Obama makes a little girl cry. What? That story, Bill, in five minutes. He's made me cry many times.

I don't know that one but I do know that we spend about the same amount on alternative energy development annually as we spend on one day's interest on the national debt.

Yes.

Bravo! What took you so long?

Do you feel this strongly about money allocated for the Iraq war?

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3007739;#3007739

I'm thinking that a write in campaign might be in order. I'm tired of voting against a candidate. I'd be happy to vote FOR this guy

Now there is an accusation I would like to see you back up! And remember, we are talking a pattern here. Not isolated incidents How many "isolate incidents" do you need to create a pattern? "Feminazi" was the first one I noticed. I'd probably give Limbaugh credit with starting the campaign to demonize the term "liberal". Limbaugh: Liberals "would have sought out bin Laden and tried to make a deal with him" Limbaugh on Al Gore: "[H]e's perverse " Limbaugh: "Democrats have found their keynote [convention] speaker ... Saddam Hussein"] Limbaugh revived discredited Kerry charges; blamed Kerry's "anti-war activism" for the "hatred that exists for America today" Limbaugh: Half of Kerry's political base "hates the military, hates America" Limbaugh: "Liberals consider themselves more powerful than God" Limbaugh: For Democrats, "the more deaths in Iraq the better" Limbaugh on Hillary: "She puts her pants on one leg at a time like every other guy does" Limbaugh claimed Democrats, terrorists share anti-American agenda Beck on Carter: "Is there a bigger waste of skin than Jimmy Carter?" Beck on Mexicans "They can't make a living in their own dirtbag country." Beck on Sheehan: "Cindy Sheehan. That's a pretty big prostitute there, you know what I mean?" Beck on Gore "That sounded a little bit like Goebbels or Gore-bels." Beck on Hillary "Yes. I think we may have found our Antichrist and our next president." Beck on Hillary "She is like the stereotypical -- excuse the expression, but this is the way to -- she's the stereotypical bitch, you know what I mean?" Beck on the people who didn't get out of New Orleans: "And that's all we're hearing about, are the people in New Orleans. Those are the only ones we're seeing on television are the scumbags". Tucker Carlson on Obama: "He seems like kind of a wuss, though." Carlson on Obama again: "Well, he sounds like a pothead to me. " Anything Ann Coulter says. Hannity on Reid: "I think he's a propaganda minister for our enemies." Hannity's daily demonization of anything "liberal". Hannity: "And to be honest about this, I'm convinced that some of these left-wingers, like Ted Kennedy, and some of these other groups -- they're not going to be happy until we have a repeat of the kind of mass slaughter --" O'Reilly on the ACLU: "I think they're a terrorist group. They're terrorizin' me and my family. They're terrorizing me. I think they're terrorists." and "Hitler would be a card-carrying ACLU member. So would Stalin. Castro probably is. And so would Mao Zedong." O'Reilly on Kerry: "Yeah, Senator, with all due respect, you're a sissy."

No. Then open your eyes and you will see it I see it. And your favorite news sources have based their existence on it.

No.

This is a little old but I'm sure that supply manipulation in favor of profits is still a good bet. Published on Friday, June 15, 2001 by the Associated Press Leaked Oil Industry Memo Suggests Bid to Curb Refinery Output by H. Josef Hebert Even as the Bush administration cites a lack of refineries as a cause of energy shortages, oil industry documents show that five years ago companies were looking for ways to cut refinery output to raise profits. The internal memos involving several major oil companies were released Thursday by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., whose office obtained them from a whistleblower. He said the materials did not necessarily reflect any illegal activities but said some of them "sure look very anticompetitive." In response, Red Cavaney, the president of an industry trade group, said: "This finger pointing six years into the past serves no useful purpose." Wyden was turning the material over to the Governmental Affairs Committee, which plans hearings on oil industry practices and energy prices. Tight gasoline supplies have been cited repeatedly by the industry and the White House as a primary reason for soaring gasoline prices this year. While pump prices have eased recently, the cost of gasoline jumped an average of 31 cents a gallon nationwide during the seven weeks ending in mid-May, according to government figures presented at a House hearing Thursday. Because it takes about four years to build a large refinery, planning for a new plant would have had to begin by the mid-1990s, energy experts say. There has not been a new refinery build in the United States in 25 years; in the meantime, dozens of small ones have closed. The documents obtained by Wyden's office suggest that in the mid-1990s oil companies had no interest in building refineries because of low profit margins. In fact, companies were discussing the need to curtail refinery output in order to make more money, the documents suggest. "If the U.S. petroleum industry doesn't reduce its refining capacity, it will never see any substantial increase in refinery margins (profits)," said an internal Chevron document in November 1995, citing views presented by participants at an American Petroleum Institute conference. A year later, an official at Texaco, in a memo marked "highly confidential," called concerns about too much refinery capacity "the most critical factor" facing the refinery industry. Excess capacity is producing "very poor refining financial results," the memo said. Wyden said the documents "raise significant questions about whether America's oil companies tried to pull off a financial triple play – boosting profits by reducing refinery capacity, tagging consumers with higher pump prices and then arguing for environmental rollbacks." The institute produced statistics showing refinery capacity has increased since 1996 as refineries became more efficient and some expanded. The figures also showed capacity increasing slower than demand. Cavaney, the institute's president, said the industry's reluctance to invest in new refinery capacity when profit margins are low and supplies are adequate – as was the case in the mid-1990s – was "a normal response in a commodity market." Wyden singled out a 1996 memo from Mobil Corp., which has since merged with Exxon, that suggests that Mobil was ready for a "full court press" to make sure an independent California refinery, which had closed in 1995, would not reopen. At the time Mobil was concerned that if the refinery, owned by the Powerine Oil Co., resumed production it might force down the price of a special, cleaner burning gasoline by as much as 3 cents. "Needless to say, we would all like to see Powerine stay down," the memo said. "Full court press is warranted in this case." The refinery remained closed. Texaco spokeswoman Keelin Molloi said Wyden's allegations "divert attention away from legitimate policy questions" about energy needs. As for the 1995 Texaco memo, she said: "Within any company, discussions about the margins and capacity are conducted in a normal course of business and in no way constitutes inappropriate or illegal behavior." Chevron spokesman Fred Gorell said the company "flatly denies any improper conduct involving refinery production levels or gasoline pricing." Attempts to reach ExxonMobil were unsuccessful. The need for more refinery capacity has been the focus of President Bush's energy plan. Vice President Dick Cheney has blamed gasoline prices increases on tight supplies caused to a large part, he contends, by the fact that the last new U.S. refinery was built in 1976. In fact, 24 refineries – many of them small independents – have shut down since 1995, according to the Energy Department. That has accounted for the loss of 831,000 barrels a day of refining capacity. Individual refinery expansions at the same time have added 1 to 2 percent of capacity annually. © Copyright 2001 The Associated Press

I wear mine inverted. You get better reception that way.

People are still filling up their tanks just as often. People are getting more and more used to the idea of $3/gal gas. Oil companies and refiners are still profiting but not so extremely that there's talk about windfall profits taxes or subsidy reduction. I guess it's just a well choreographed collusion.

Both. Recently I've been voting against the large weevil. Sad.

Agree, 100%.

Catch phrases? I thought I was pretty clear. If you produce more then you flood the market with your product. If the market is flooded then your product is worth less. That's why gas prices go up when those annual "unexpected maintenance" shutdowns occur at the refinery. Milk is another great example. We produce much more milk than we need and/because the government buys the excess in order to keep the price from bottoming out and hurting the dairy industry.

Have you been paying attention to gas prices? They've gone up 25 cents in the last month. Wouldn't seem to indicate a glut of any sort. Right. The increase in inventory was only theoretical and based on your post.