Emma

Yeh but the good bits are made up...I reckon. I mean, it's all very well shagging, lets say, HYPOTHETICALLY, twins - but if they both have faces like Anne Widdecombe's slapped arse...well, where's the glamour in that eh?

Oh yeh....Guess so......('Kind gentle women' though??? Hmm) Tee hee

..kind of summed it up though eh? IN the nicest possible way....

Don't come the coy one with us, deary...You think we don't know...BUT WE DO!!! LOL..I was going through that and ticking off who from our DZ fitted into which category! BTW....there are lots of kind, gentle men there too...Sometimes even in disguise as *another* 'type', but you can tell all the same.... Emma (ps drop the 'Emmy' please MIKEY!

I wasn't just talking about the men, Remi.... You may be right. But I think even if *all* men are 'perverts' - the skydivers I know are more likely to act on their 'perverted' desires. Which I kind of respect...It's like the whuffo question - 'Oh wow I've always wanted to do THAT!'

Yeh, basically all the skydivers I know are perverts in one way or another. FANTASTIC!

Oh god not again... I'd say it's probably to be expected given the high costs associated with skydiving, and the typical socio-ecomic profile for Afro-caribbeans. It's the same with show-jumping. I agree. But I think it may be to do with the fairly macho scene at DZs. No matter how welcoming and accepting DZs are, there are still some taboos. It's a male-dominated sport and so stands to reason that to be openly gay is not accepted very well. It should be, but it's not. (Although we make allowances for Skreamer ) NOw lesbians, on the other hand, are positively encouraged...as long as they're 'feminine' enough...Why is that, d'ya think?

Uhh..are you sure it's meant to be a parody of black speech? I thought it was just generally intended to represent the ignorant and unknowing (ie the non-jumper)? At least...I HOPE it's not a term with its source in racism....but who knows eh? Personally I like whuffos as a term. BOOBIES BOOBIES BOOBIES

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You'd think so, but actually it's my poor old mother he's after. Phukin PERVERT!!!! AND YOU CAN LEAVE MY PHUKIN CAT OUT OF IT TOO, YA SICKO! And please, never associate this collonial fag with my beautiful country again, even obliquely. It sickens me.

The only thing *funny* about this sadistic little [bleep!] is his skydiving. And his willy (so Dolly the sheep told me). And his landings. Evil incarnate, this is the One we call Skreamer....[Bleeping!][Bleep!] Profanity will not be tolerated!!!!! Right, since it's Friday night.... am off to get c*nt-faced...ciao

This has to be the funniest thread I've read for ages. Thank you everyone, and God bless. Skreamer is still a fag though. And he's gonna pay! ('Lippy'??? He said I was 'lippy'???? Unbelievable!)

We haven't met though, have we? Skreamer is a faggoty bum-sucking pussy-faced penis-riding fairy tosser...and a bleeping bleepety bleeper! For bleep's sake! Where is the dignity I had come to expect on this fine forum? Respect our language, you f*ckers! And don't think you scare me with your vile threats, fag-boy! Punch me indeed? Bloody patriarchal oppression! Misogynist! ps...oh...never mind..I'll take it offline....into the world of REAL cruelty....phew

'Underworld' - whatever, I was taking the piss! Although there are some seedy characters around, I fully acknowledge a lot of so-called 'dealers' are just people sorting out their friends...

But he used the p word....

Fuck off, you disgusting, perverted, sick, offensive [bleep!]!

uh yeh...I know. In case you didn't realise, I aint the wisest person...But one can have goals!

I never said they had mild effects. I actually said 'they do fuck with your brain'. Skydiving (or flying) after a druggy bender is definitely a bad idea. I also happen to think skydiving after a drinking bender is not the wisest move. It's not what I was saying. I'm just concerned with the disctinction you make between drugs and alcohol. If anything, I would say people are probably more clear-headed after certain Class As than they after lots of vodka. Think back to all those things you've done whilst pissed....judgement severely impaired, no? Anyway, I apprecaite your comments. I expect my friends will grow out of drugs, just as many people do out of excessive drinking.

This is deeply offensive. How dare you use that word on a public forum!

People who use alcohol habitually also fuck themselves up. Cirrhosis of the liver, anyone? George Best? Inability to get out of bed and do a proper day's work because of your hangover? Failed relationships? Violent behaviour? I see where you're coming from but I think a sense of balance is what's required. If you have an addictive personality you'll struggle with booze, pills, chang or glue...whatever is available and suits your lifestyle. I think there is an insidious acceptance of drinking to excess, almost an attitude of 'if you don't get pissed up you're boring' - this pervades huge portions of society (or is it just my DZ? Hmmm...) And yet, the same people who down pint after pint and spend Saturday in bed recovering, look on pill-takers as 'druggies' . What utter bollocks. It's just your social conditioning. Plus, I am yet to see a raver punch another raver whilst on pills, yet I've seen plenty of blood spillt at pub closing time. There is evidence* that incidences of football hooliganism declined SIGNIFICANTLY in the UK in direct correspondence withe widespread us of ecstasy in the late 80s and early 90s. (* sorry I don't know where to look for it, however an interesting book is 'Altered States' which is fairly objective, as opposed to something like High Times. Unfortunately, to go to the effort of reading stuff like this requires an open mind; a rarity when the subject of drugs comes up.) I have a friend who injects heroin every day and yet doesn't exhibit any signs of being 'dysfunctional', however the hell you want to define that. He can afford it so it doesn't really cause him a problem. He refers to it as 'taking my medicine'. He is addicted, yes, but not exposed to a lot of the dangers of its use. I also have several friends who do coke, es or speed every weekend and are on £40k plus-a-year jobs. Some of them actually have relationships and manage to wash their hair and clean their teeth every day. Amazing! This is why I struggle to believe 'DRUGS FUCK YOU UP. PERIOD'. It just doesn't fit with what I know. Yes, they do fuck with your brain, and ...uh...people find it...fun....You just have to know when to stop. Like you do with ALCOHOL. I'm not saying drugs are a good thing, and they do kill people. But so does alcohol, so do cars, so do bumble bees, peanuts and SKYDIVING.

Just thought I'd mention, since the subject came up... I've got a freefly suit winging its way to me from NZ in a coupla weeks. Yes folks, the dark side it is.....Bollocks, I knew I'd succumb one day, despite resisting the lure of those Crater brothers for so long....Farewell flat friends....the ungainly 'having a shit in mid air - squat' position beckons (sit-flying, is it? SO unfeminine..ah well).

I don't 'do' drugs and I'm not saying they're good for you. I'm just pointing out that it is a fact that alcohol has killed far more people than its less 'socially acceptably' brethren, what you call 'real' drugs. To make a distinction and simply say 'ALL DRUGS ARE BAD' is, imho, ill-informed, hypocritical and bloody dangerous. It doesn't work, because, like alcohol, drugs can be fun....They can also be dangeous, JUST LIKE ALCOHOL CAN. And because of this overly-simplistic statement, 'ALL DRUGS ARE BAD', kids try, say, some grass, realise it's pretty harmless and a good laugh, and develop a sceptical cynicism to anything else they hear from the anti-drugs lobby. Just saying 'don't do drugs' louder and louder doesn't work. Proper education about realistic dangers of both drugs, alcohol and cigarettes might. But we don't see that, instead we have hysterical, ignorant scare-mongering, borne out of fear. To say, as you do, 'there is no debate' is not helpful. Of course there is a debate. As Chickenhawk says, it is usually the effects of social exclusion and the illegality of drugs that actually leads to death - ie, extortionate prices, association with 'the underworld' (ahem!) and cutting them with bad-ass rubbish. Once again (as no doubt I will be flamed for this) I do NOT do drugs and I don't advocate doing them. I am, however, a bit of a piss-head, probably because alcohol is socially-accpetable and thus available in pubs, bars and clubs the world over. I also know more people hurt themselves, make themselves ill and become addicted to booze than to any drugs. Sorry if you can't seem to understand this, however I feel selecting 'certain' stimulants and saying they're ok and others aren't, is one of society's deepest hypocrisies.

I don't care because I do already have one of the nice, handsome, heroic ones...I was only sharing for the benefit of those poor gels still looking ;) V V V V V V V V V V V V V V (Shhhh, don't tell Gus, I need him to pack my rig when i can't be arsed....)

You know it's true.... I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe.

>> Who understands men? >>1. The nice men are ugly. >>2. The handsome men are not nice. >>3. The handsome and nice men are gay. >>4. The handsome, nice and heterosexual men are married. >>5. The men who are not so handsome, but are nice men, have no money. >>6. The men who are not so handsome, but are nice men with money think >> we are only after their money. >>7. The handsome men without money are after our money. >>8. The handsome men, who are not so nice and somewhat heterosexual, >> don't think we are beautiful enough. >>9. The men who think we are beautiful, that are heterosexual, somewhat >> nice and have money, are cowards. >>10.The men who are somewhat handsome, somewhat nice and have some >> money and thank God are heterosexual, are shy and NEVER MAKE THE FIRST >>MOVE!!!! >>11.The men who never make the first move, automatically lose interest >> in us when we take the initiative. >> NOW ....WHO IN THE HELL UNDERSTANDS MEN? >> Men are like a fine wine. They all start out like grapes, and it's our >> job to stomp on them and keep them in the dark until they mature into >> something you'd like to have dinner with. I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe.