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I disagree. The more formal processes used today are what make science [I]science. They are the defining characteristic. While early philosophers may have laid the groundwork, it is indeed a stretch to call them good scientists. That's a bit like saying the Wright brothers were great astronautical engineers. It's quite easy and logical to make such an argument, actually. He eliminated the possibility of a personal god. It's not reasonable to consider one who disregards large portions of the book upon which Christianity is based to be a "good Christian." Exactly. And religion requires embracing faith, while science requires rejecting faith. The intersection is empty. Success at one implies inevitable failure at the other. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Re-read my post. I took issue with: "either way, if you aren't bothered by both scenarios, you are a hypocrit" primarily because the scenarios (at least in the version of the post to which I applied) were not necessarily equivalent. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

That's not remotely close to my position. I'm a white guy who grew up in an area that was nearly exclusively white. While I'm not racist, I don't believe for a second that I have any idea what it's like to be a black man in America. For any job where empathy for such life experience is a prerequisite, I'm not qualified, and it would be an injustice to allow me to fill such a position. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Your obliviousness to what is actually said is unsurpassed on this forum. Right. There's never any correlation at all. ***If one makes an assumption that culture is solely skin color, then, sorry, you are just using "culture" as a buzz work for pigment. Again, nice straw man. Racial proportions are not constant across all cultures in the US. Recognizing one's culture influences their world view is not racism (except maybe to you, with your need to vent your pseudo-outrage that most people are able to perceive the world in more shades of grey than you seem able to recognize). Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

I didn't say any such thing. I merely pointed out that in some contexts, race is not irrelevant, and, in common combination with a lack of understanding of a relevant culture, can impact one's ability to do their job correctly. In other words, all else is not equal. In the matter of the Trump U case, race is not a factor in the case, and is an irrelevant factor in the judge. Your broad brush has little application in the real world. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

All of which came from a time when the scientific method was in its infancy, and its implications still largely unknown. Being a good religious person. His work in physics led hime to understand that a personal god was an impossibility; if there was a god, that god could not interfere once the universe was set to motion. They're not very good Christians, then. Certainly many of them are good people, just not good Christians. I will reassert: The intersection of embracing faith and rejecting faith is empty. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Nope. You can try, but to be good at one implies being quite bad at the other. Newton and Copernicus both tried and failed, for example. Right. They understand that Superman is a fictitious character. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Not necessarily. You've created a false equivalence. And apparently don't know what hypocrite means. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Exactly. Religion is about embracing faith. Science is about rejecting faith and applying logic and reason. On cannot be a good religious person and a good scientist. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Just so long as everyone keeps putting their tithe in the collection plate. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

You may find your testimony truthy, but it is not truth. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

So you're telling us that the only thing you value in life is money? Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Wasn't he in the news in 1992, too? Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

I could agree that we're all born agnostic given that we don't know anything at that time. Being agnostic implies one has considered the possibility of a god. We're born atheists. Only in the absence of a rigorous application of logic and reason, such as what is provided by the scientific method. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

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That you predictably ignore arguments inconsistent with your own preconceived notions in no way implies cogent arguments have not been presented. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Don't conflate being born a certain way and choosing to live a certain way. Being religious is always a choice; we're all born atheists. There's a big difference. Some people (and a members of a multitude of other species) are also born homosexual. And the "record rates" are most likely due to people being more inclined to come out of the closet, in some cases, even to themselves. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

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But it does not imply that religion offers any beneficial value. Actually, it does. The idea that there is this omnipotent, untouchable being who metes out punishment and rewards for behavior is a big benefit. If a King or other ruler becomes unpopular, there is a revolt. Which pretty much destroys the society. But, while revolting against religious authorities isn't unknown, it's far less common. And the idea of revolting against God is impossible. So the society believes that they have to do certain things or "God will punish them." Things like not stealing from each other, not killing each other (within the group), leaving the other guys' mates alone, that sort of thing. Stuff that is normal human nature, but bad for the society. Religious prohibitions on this sort of behavior was probably vital for humans to move anywhere beyond tribal groups. Rewards for behaviors that don't benefit the individual, yet are important for society to flourish are also an important effect of this. Tithing/taxation is one example. That doesn't change the existence/non-existence of God in any way. Just addressing the evolved tendency for people to believe in a God. I agree that a common belief that allows a loose group to coalesce for cooperative purposes has been beneficial. But it is the cooperation, not the religion, that provides value. I think our disagreement is largely semantics. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

But it does not imply that religion offers any beneficial value. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

I suspect you're misconstruing the science. I suspect you're not even familiar with the science. I've read about the research to which I think you're referring. Like I said, I don't think it implies what you believe it implies. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

I suspect you're misconstruing the science. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!