DaVinci

Pot meet Kettle

No, I am willing to wait to see what really happend..You want to string up the "man" on the first report. Normal for you. Really, get over yourself. You have no proof this was racist. You are suck a badass, I am so impressed . Of course the guys with the guns have the same right to defend themselves IMO. And since the cops were the guys with the guns you just justified ALL parties actions. Pretty simple it seems: Guys acting loud and fighting start to try to leave. There is an accident and people with guns show up. The three freak out and try to run/fight back. The police open fire since they were being attacked. The police may not be "right", but that does not mean they were looking to "kill a black person". They were attacked and they defended themselves.

Gonna ban matches next? STOP THE MATCHES!!!!!

Everytime I get a chance, I talk to the troops that were over there. Amost 100% agree we are doing the right thing. Who am I to argue with the guys whose butts are on the line?

Wow a personal attack from out of the blue! I guess you are so perfect you never had a relationship fail? Sheesh!

Why? Race? Lack of experience?

Or trying to run from cops. I really don't like how you are willing to hang the cops for being cops. They were attacked and you cannot say that they did it out of fear. It is possible, but I am willing to wait...You however want them shot just for being cops. Cops or not...Trying to run over people is an attack with a deadly weapon and force is alowed in that situation.

You think the people who GET the money care about anything other than the raw amount? Would you rather get one dollar from 1 million people, or 5 dollars from 10 people? Sure you could claim the 10 people were nicer...But the 1 dollar folks still gave more total, and the total nimber is what does good.

Really lame...Is that the best you can do? Sheesh.

This sounds like a fender bender....."got into their silver Nissan Altima, drove half a block, turned a corner and struck a black unmarked police minivan bearing plainclothes officers. " This sounds like an attack to me..."The car then backed up, nearly hitting an undercover officer, and shot forward, slamming again into the police van, the police said." Trying to run over a cop is assult.

Yes, the list is endless. But a weapon will level things out in a hurry. 1. What if the perp already started attacking? 2. You are assuming that the 50 year old is capable of performing those strikes in a manner that would be effective. Not everyone is. 3. Also alcohol and drugs can reduce the fel of pain of an attack. Making the attacker much less likely to quit. So, maybe the USE of a gun is not warented without physical attack, but pulling one out with the intent to use it would make the guy split. In taht case the "I have a bigger club" can work as a deterant. Pick up what? A pair of nunchucks? A staff? Get real, very few people can use a weapon much less something they "find" if they are lucky. Again, her pulling out a fire arm would give the perp the chance to cut and run, even without shots being fired. And if not then she would not have to try and fight someone that could be twice her size. But you will not allow her to have that option. So what would happen then? Who said to automatically shoot someone? A pretty big misunderstanding for you and others is that anyone with a gun is looking to use it. My Mom and Dad have been "packing" for 10+ years and they have NEVER pulled it out, much less shot anyone. However, I do have a buddy that was confronted by a guy in a drive through. There were cars in front of him and behind him, so he was locked into place. A guy came out of the car in front of him and started walking towards his car. Carrying a knife and a baseball bat, and acting strange. My buddy pulled his pistol out and when the guy got to his window and started yelling at the guy to give him his money...My buddy tapped the window glass with the pistol and then pointed it at him. The guy left in a hurry and my buddy shot no one. That I would call a win. Agreed. Notice only you think that we are all Wild Bill over here. I have had a drunk push me and make threats against me. I had a .357 but it never saw the light of day. I didn't need it. But I will admit it felt nice to know that I was not screwed if he had a weapon or some buddies. And England has tons of lovable drunks looking for fights right? Get over the stereotypes and Hollywood BS. Ask yourself this...In a situation where you have a guy with a knife threatening you, would you rather have a gun, or nothing? Now forget you are 200 pounds and trained? In your world the girl in your third scenario might be rapped or killed. In mine she has a fighting chance.

Fair answer. The inverse is also true don't you think? Those that support the right to burn the US flag refuse to support the flying of the confederate flag, or the use of a swastika. I think the difference IMO is this. The US flag includes all of us (in the US). All these others SEPERATE us. I can easily support the unity of the American flag and honor it, without getting my panties in a bunch over some else's flag, or symbol. Of course people are free to do as they please, and that includes buring the flag. But if you support that, would you also support the right to fly the confederate flag?

That was not an option listed. Pick one of the two please.

It was not the scholarship that was made out to be dishonorable. Anymore than some claims that the NG is dishonorable either.

So you would rather be jobless and spend time with your kids...Thus teaching them that lifestyle. Or would you rather show them how to be a productive member of society?

So, a 50 year old man has the same ability as a 25 year old man? How about a 30 year old woman vs a 25 year old man? Now how about a 50 year old man, and 5 25 year old men? Does the 50 year old really have a chance? Does the 30 year old woman? Like it or not, not everyone is 200 pounds and studies martial arts 5 days a week. YES! With out the extremist, there would be no bomb in the first place. You wanna throw the BOMB in jail? Besides you claim that you have peace over there, then you write this: Seems to me that you have a violent society already. It is a shame that you choose to breed victims.

No, people killed people long before guns existed. If they were never created they would still kill each other. Human nature, not the "Curse of the Gun". Please wxplain why people are killed every year without guns?

Ever been a Boy Scout? The same could be said of condoms....But I would carry one anyway Really, Guns do not kill people. They are a tool, and if someone wants to kill someone they are going to do it with any tool. Allowing people to defened themselves is a good thing IMO. If you notice you are griping about illegal uses of weapons. So crush those that break the law, not own the tool.

No you show them how to be good parents and providers by EXAMPLE. You show them how to be productive members of society by being one yourself. Do you let your kids go with you to cash the welfare checks? Is that better for them to grow up and be dependant on the Gov?

And how do you feel about rainbow stickers? How about Malcom "X" hats? The little Christ fish? Closing pin necklaces? Tolorance. These things do not hurt you. It is, and it even predates that. It is one of the oldest symbols. Your intolorance is showing. Edit: I don't have a confederate flag, swastika, rainbow sticker, Malcom "X" symbol, Little Christ fish, and I HAD a closing pin necklace but I don't know where it is....But even though I don't have these, nor am I Confederate, NAZI, Gay, Black, or Christain I tend not to get pissed at people who are and show it any more than I get pissed at skydivers for showing it.

So showing your kids how to be good parents and supporting them is abandonment? If more people grew up with an idea that they need to take care of themselves, the world would be a better place. Right now we have people on welfare with Xboxes. Is that better?

So, we have the US that is the most affluent, and all the others that provide health care and are not as rich?

Yet you claim to be poor? Earlier you claimed that the ability to earn a living was sign of intelligence. Educated, sure...Intelligent, no. You refuse to think of those two as seperate even though your OWN sources say they are. So go with 40%...Thats 40% of ENVIRONMENTAL factors, not just education. You take small numbers and try to make them fit your whole argument. Environmental factors include how much your parents made you do homework or if you ate lead paint. So you cannot claim that education is the only factor even IN environmental factors, much less the whole pie. No, cause that would be some evidence not some theory you spout. Like I said, wanna claim that college kids are more educated? Great, I would agree. But you want to claim they are more intelligent. So my question is this, when does the college kid become more intelligent (assuming two HS grads)? The second he steps into school? Are you willing to discount any lessons learned in the military in favor of finding out how to find the mean of a bunch of numbers? Her is where you go off the chart every time. WRONG, by your own statements ENVIRONMENTAL factors that education is just ONE part, not the whole. The lessons learned in Boot Camp could also be considered ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS...But you discount anything but school. This is where your house of cards starts to fall. And that proves nothing other than they GO to school. It does not show how many cruze through and make a major of smoking dope and eating cupcakes. It also does not take into consideration parents desires, or financial considerations. And that is just nothing you can prove. You use wazzo math to come up with a conclusion you can't prove...That is the logical fallicy I mentioned. ARGUMENT FROM ANALOGY or FALSE ANALOGY. An unsound form of inductive argument in which an argument is based completely or relies heavily on analogy to prove its point. Really drop the false analogies. X does not equal Z just cause you want it to. Environmental factors includes more than just education.

Which would you prefer: 1. Support your family even though you don't get as much quality time with them. 2. Live on assistance from the Gov, but have plenty of time for your family? I choose #1. By showing children that you have to be responsible and productive you are doing more for them than letting them think that it is OK for the Gov to take care of you. Buffett did the same by not giving his kids all of his money. Of course, one could argue that a Billion is enough.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just like you said you were smarter than GQ, then later claimed you never said that. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please go find that for me. There ya go..."Intellectually, you are likely a way below me" That only proves that people who didn't go to the Army some went to school. That proves EDUCATION, but your own numbers show education is less than HALF of intelligence..As low as 20%. Yet you make some really big assumptions yet state them as proof, then claim to not believe in proof when you can't find any. Your OWN sources show that education is less then HALF. But you claim that education is the lions share. Really, get some proof of your wazzo claims or don't bother to answer me. If you had said, that GIS are less EDUCATED, you would get no argument since your evidence shows that. It is when you make the BS jump to INTELLIGENCE that your theory falls to shit, and you cannot prove anything. Of course you claim no proof is needed. Really, bring proof of INTELLIGENCE, not some wazzo illogical falicy to support your theory. ARGUMENT FROM ANALOGY or FALSE ANALOGY. An unsound form of inductive argument in which an argument is based completely or relies heavily on analogy to prove its point. Have any proof of that? Or just talking?