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When I have landed out it has always been very nice to be able to direct the car they send out

I think this is a very good post constructed with great care not to offend but to facilitate discussion. Kudos to you for that. My take on it is, that while I certainly do believe that man wants to explain the universe around him, it seems to me that science and religion are two completely different beasts. Science to me seems to evolve naturally through evolution. Only a curious species would evolve to a level of technical sophistication that reaches past simple tools as hammers or axes. One might say that the need of man to do science could be explained through a sociological version of the weak anthropic principle. In other words, if you are wondering why we wonder, it is precisely because we wonder. If we didn't you also would not. Religion on the other hand has through history very much served as a system to stabilize power structures in society while providing "explanations" which are today easily falsifiable as factual explanations. We see it in persons, places or objects that are "taboo". We see it in the European kings that were ordained by God (no less). Where the two things flow together is, where religion has tried to explain things that was not at the time explained in science. A lot of the jewish rules for treating food probably have a simple sanitary explanation, but it was easy for a priest to say "God Wills It" and be done with it. At the same time he could affirm his position of power by simply knowing by experience that this and that treatment of food would get you dead. Although both science and religion might once have evolved from the same curiousity they now have very little to do with each other. I think a lot of trouble could be avoided if religion would kindly step aside when we are discussing empirical facts, and if scientists would please remember that they are part of a species which for a large part enjoys this little thing called "moral". I would never disrespect a person who held a sincere belief in a moral given to him/her through religion, although I might of course disagree. If on the other hand you insist that the world is a couple of thousand years old created "as is" in a week, then you are speaking against all empirical evidence and thus not using your (dare I say?) God-given intelligence. Edit: Typo fixing HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

Hmm... Now I'm curious... HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

I'm sorry, but it just does not sound like you're having fun. This is bad in itself. I did staticline and sucked badly on my 5 sec. delays. When you get to the poised exits take comfort that you cannot be worse than me. What kept me going was that I knew I was having fun. Even after having pulled while sort-of-head-down-on-my-back and seeing the bag hit my boots on its way to deployment I had fun. Wouldn't it be nicer if you tried to concentrate on going on a fun skydive with a nice instructor? I suppose you have around 50 seconds of freefall on one of those jumps. That is a loong time. Get out the door, figure out what is going on around you, smile at your instructor (yes, seriously) and then worry about your program. Skydive because you like it. I see no other valid reason for jumping out of a perfectly good airplane. Oh, and please insert some standard newbie disclaimers in appropriate places of this post. HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

So, you'd be perfectly happy with them setting up little cameras in your bedroom too? What about little heart rate monitors to check if your heart rate goes up when you see a cop? Come on. You don't have anything to hide, do you? Insert any smiley of your choice in the above text:

That is what is so beatiful about Copenhagen in the summer. Girls on bikes (and there are many of those). I very often end up deciding that I am no more in hurry than the nice ass right in front of me HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

Microsoft Office Assistant has detected that you are writing a post in Bonfire. Do you want to tell dirty jokes garnished with emoticons to mark when you're being funny? bitch about the opposite sex? whine? or are you just plain drunk? HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

Ahh. I think I'll go put on Frank Zappa's Man From Utopia: HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

Quicktime sucks... Especially when there's an error in a frame, so it stops playback around the spinning mals. HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

Please remember that fully healing a sprained ancle also includes exercise. If you don't use it, you will not rebuild your strength, and mobility might also be reduced. Be sure to apply pressure on it also in positions that are not too comfortable. HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

This is the definition I know of, but we may have to award brother Salsa extra points to have been able to come up with multiple definitions

Very old and very geeky joke: Clicky I will leave it as an exercise to figure out what a LART is... HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

Thomas Covenant is pretty heay stuff. Agreed. I'm waiting impatiently for vol. 2 of the "Final Chronicles". EDIT: Dammit. Just checked. The series won't be complete until late 2013. That'll teach me to by books from unfinished series. HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

That someone was called Clive Staples Lewis, so while you're in principle right, you're also sort of wrong... or something. Just reread the books a month ago

Seems that this discussion on religion attracted a swarm of us. Greetings from CERN. I'll go build that anti-matter bomb now... HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

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Why? If you ask a meaningless question, there really is no answer, and asking whether light is "really" a particle or a wave is a meaningless question. It is an attempt to dress up an unknown with something you think you understand. (not you specifically ) HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

I'm a physicist. There's no "answer" to the problem as you imagine answer to be. My take on it is, that the concept of a "particle" simply is not well defined at that scale (if at all), but I'm a bit too tired right now to start arguing the finer points of quantum mechanics. It's 4.30 pm over here. End of the working day approaching.

Strictly speaking not true. You can make hypotheses and put them on a more or less firm foundation. You can disprove many things about light, as it takes just one experiment which disagrees with your hypothesis. an experiment that agrees strengthens your "degree of belief" but that's it. To put it simply: I need just one apple falling upwards to disprove the law of gravity, but no amount of falling apples can do more than strengthen the conjecture that a such law exists. EDIT: Isn't it exactly the craving for final authoritative truth that religion satisfies? HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

.rehtie ti ta doog yrev ton ma I ,lleW HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

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I'm Danish, and the canopy control courses I have seen offered in DK have all been aimed at new license holders, with a possibility for more experienced people to participate and pick up some tricks. If you really want a canopy control course now, Brian Germain is going to be in Denmark next week giving (among other things) a canopy control course. The price is 300 DKR (to non-Scandinavians: This is the price of two jumps). Info to be found on http://westjump.dk/. His course has a good reputation, but I have never taken it myself. HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...

So, you spoke with Jesus today? But, did he see the post in it's entire context? Not that my sig-line adds much to the discussion, but I invite you to have a look at the reference. HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde...