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But there is racial bias regarding police use of non-deadly force. And you wish to ignore that fact. Deadly and non-deadly....what are the other options? What don't you get about the force part of law enFORCEment? Some of use would like to see more emphasis on "protect and serve". What are LEOs suposed to protect us from? Yourselves Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

See, you just refuse to listen. Those aren't rationalizations, they are facts. You're talking about merely reducing guns, but you'd have to get rid of practically every gun to reduce the gun homicide rate, because as long as there are guns out there, criminals will get there hands on them - just like drugs. As a rational human being, do you think taking away practically every gun out of society is realistic? Do you think that inner city blacks are incapable of living peacefully? The CDC most certainly thinks they can. . . Personally, I think your argument about reducing guns is probably more suited to address the suicide rate in suburban/rural areas, but I'd bet you're one of those liberals that supports the right to die, amirite? Dude, it works in every other western nation. All of them. America stands alone in tolerating the death rate. Those are facts. Less people with guns equals less shooting. No, in Canada the criminals generally DO NOT have guns. Some do, because they stole them or smuggled them. Law abiding citizens often do have guns. But they store them safely at home, they don't need to walk around armed to feel safe. The police here DO NOT have to assume that everyone they deal with is armed. Very few are. Those are the facts. You are deluding yourselves with silly arguments that are rooted in the politics of fighting against gun control. Criminals are stupid people. They only have guns because you make it so effing easy for them to have them. You have not only poisoned your country with the toys of war, you have poisoned your mind with irrational justifications that you need them. It is madness. The whole world knows that the gun situation in America is straight out madness. Wake up to reality. You have made your bed, now go lie in it. But at least tell yourself the truth instead of sprouting the lies you have been taught. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

Blah, blah ,blah.....all the rationalizations. Guns are tools, they are tools invented and perfected to kill people. Your country has a gun death rate 5 times Canada's. And Canada's is rather high because we live next to you and it's easy to smuggle guns. But like I keep saying, you will just keep blathering away that "guns don't kill people" despite the fact that they do. You've made your decision, hopefully you or a loved one will not be one of the victims. But you can be sure there will be victims. Over and over again and again. Just the same tomorrow as it today and was yesterday. If you have guns, you will use guns. You are people, and that's one of the things people do. And then you accuse ME of having a thick skull? Enjoy your powerful killing machine toys. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

No, they are not pandering to the religious right. They ARE the religious right. The party has been co-opted by them because moderates are abandoning the party in droves. How are these views different from those of Muslim fundamentalists? Dems aren't that smart or forward looking. They are in favour of less drastic policies because it's what they believe. Hispanics are actually people who tend to have conservative views. The Republican party could one day win a lot of votes from them. But first they must give up xenophobia. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

Which blacks are outraged? Or are just assuming that? Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

Actually it's a minority. It's a vocal, determined and dedicated minority, but it's a minority. And most are not "willing to pay any price in violence." I'm certainly not. I'd support ideas that will actually reduce violence, not simply take rights away. It's just that I have yet to see a measure proposed that will do anything. Most of what is proposed is in the "Do something, do anything to make me feel safe" category (I've said this before). Background checks for every transfer? How many recent high profile shootings happened with weapons that the owner acquired through a dealer with a check? (virtually all of them) Magazine capacities? The shooters at Columbine had 10 round mags. Bigger ones were too expensive. The shooter in DC used a shotgun. Ban "Assault Weapons"? VA Tech, the Giffords shooting in AZ, Ft Hood and numerous others used pistols. Everyone who vilifies the NRA forgets or ignores the things they have done to go after criminals in ways that don't restrict the rights of the rest of the population. Remember "3 Strikes"? That was pushed hard by the NRA. It turned out to be a bad idea, but at least it was a "go after the criminals, not the guns" idea. The "Project Exile" in VA was another one. Federal prosecutors would file charges in many "gun involved" crimes. 5 years minimum, and the charges couldn't be plea bargained away. It worked to a certain degree. NRA supported it. You are not willing to take concrete measures to reduce the number of guns in your society. That is the only fix. You are part of the population that is unwilling to give up gun rights for decreased gun violence. Guns are made to shoot people. That's what they were invented for and that is what they will be used for because that is all they are good for. All the dancing around and rationalizations will never change that basic fact. The only way to reduce gun violence is to reduce guns. America does not accept that basic truth. If you are not willing to reduce gun rights you are part of the problem. And you are part of the majority I speak of. You are basically all the same. You want to have your cake and eat it too. The reason you have not seen any ideas that will work is simple. THERE ARE NONE. Except reducing gun rights and therefore reducing guns. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

Here in the US the laws are all over the place on this. In Oregon, the property has to be prominently posted NO TRESPASSING for something like this to be actual trespassing. Jerry Baumchen Same in Canada. It comes from English common law. How is anyone supposed to even know it's not public property if you don't post it? Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

I don't say that at all. But it's not on topic, and mentioning it is a diversionary tactic. You always go off on tangents unrelated to the subject at hand. I just refuse to take my eyes off the ball. There are many unjust things going on in the world. This thread is about LEO's and racial bias. Feel free to start a thread about other violent things that disturb you. You are the OP in this thread, go back and read the title. You wrote it. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

The SC has made it clear that "reasonable restrictions" are allowed. But where that line is has never been determined. Most states and even Congress have been prevented from testing the limits. This is because they are unwilling to pay the political price to try, or they are against the principle. As I have said before, a small majority, but a majority nonetheless, of Americans are willing to pay nearly any price in violence to maintain their gun rights. This is democracy in action. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

So, you think that having trigger happy LEOs killing citizens should be tolerated because other people commit murder? The outrage comes from the fact that LEO's are not held accountable like those other murderers are. Now do you get it? Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

But they are so severely restricted as to make it very uncommon. Are those laws not an infringement on the right of the people to bear arms? Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

It takes a very long time to change a reputation once you've earned it. Keep up the good work. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

You should really try out, "demagogue." I think you'll like it. I hope to never need that word. To me it implies a leader in power. Trump is still a wannabe demagogue. If he should somehow gain the Presidency I will upgrade to that word out of respect for the office. How does "Office of the Demagogue of the United States" sound? Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

Did you think either you or I were hoping to change the world by posting here? It's a method of making a point. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

So then, why is is alright to prohibit fully automatic weapons? Why are only AR-15s allowed and not M16s? Why are these outrageous laws allowed to exist in the face of your 2nd amendment rights? Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

Yes I know. That's why I use this one. They are a specialty of Despicable Donald's. He uses them on all his enemies. I use it to draw attention to that fact. There is a long list of them here: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html More Here: http://www.thehypertexts.com/Donald%20Trump%20Nicknames.htm Here is an explanation of why he does it: http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/donald-trump-bullying-his-way-presidency I've been learning from the master- AND, Despicable happens to be the best one word description I've heard for him. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

Have you not noticed how Despicable Donald changed his tune about his opponents as they dropped out of the race? Standard campaign politics. You need to denigrate your rivals, then afterward you need them as allies. Welcome to the real world. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

If the population is going to armed, open carry is better than concealed carry in my mind. He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to feel. -Townes Van Zandt Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

The funny part is that many who support the 2nd amendment say that it is about the public's right to armed rebellion against repressive government. Just who do these people think are likely to rebel? The most likely are those who are the most disadvantaged. And just what part of the American population is most likely to feel dispossessed..... Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

You don't have to worry about that. Canadian beer is too expensive because of the taxes we pay to fund our healthcare system. Plus I'm in a commercial truck and carrying alcohol is strictly illegal. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

Excellent. All the hate groups should exercise their gun rights in Cleveland this weekend. An armed society is a polite society. As long as the firepower is equally distributed a peaceful gathering will be assured. It's all in the balance of terror. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

Yes, I immediately asked them why. They said it was because an A License jumper couldn't act as jumpmaster on a lift. Which I regard as some pretty half-assed reasoning. I was a B License at the time; so didn't affect me, but I still regarded it as being dicks. Maybe so. But only in BPA land is a "jumpmaster" required on a lift. In other parts of the world, an FAI A license is honoured as a credential. You could send up an entire load of only A's here or in the US. I don't know about continental Europe. A's should not be considered students, except in the sense that we all should consider ourselves to be students. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

rushmc is very conservative in most things. But not in spelling and grammar. In that area he is a flaming liberal. Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

But there is racial bias regarding police use of non-deadly force. And you wish to ignore that fact. Deadly and non-deadly....what are the other options? What don't you get about the force part of law enFORCEment? Some of use would like to see more emphasis on "protect and serve". Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

You should have been a tobacco company lawyer. Where were you when they needed you? Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.